Saturday, May 14, 2011

Abortion is Murder, 9-2, June, 2011

Formerly Stop the Killing of Young People (skyp) and soon, perhaps, Stop Killing Preemies

June, 2011 Vol. 9 No. 2
PO Box 7424, Reading, PA 19603
Phone – 484-706-4375
Email –
Web –
Circulation – 103
John Dunkle, Editor

Abortion is Murder, a weak, pathetic response to baby murder, is sent out at least once a month. If the gestapo hasn’t jailed you for defending the innocent realistically, you either have to tell me you want it or go the website. Faxes and emails are free but snail-mail is free only for PFC’s, $100 for others.
Because I believe we should examine every legitimate means, including force, in our attempt to protect those being tortured to death, I want to hear from people who’ve been forceful. I’d also like to hear from those prolifers and pro-deathers who call force violence.

Prisoners for Christ:

1. Evans, Paul Ross 83230-180, USP McCreary, P.O. Box 3000, Pine Knot, KY 42635
2. Gibbons, Linda, Vanier WDC, 655 Martin St., P.O. Box 1040, Milton, ON, Canada L9T 5E6
3. Griffin, Michael 310249, Walton C.I., 691 Institution Rd, Defuniak Springs, FL 32433 9/11
4. Jordi, Stephen 70309-004, FCI P.O. Box 33, Terre Haute IN 47802 6/30
5. Knight, Peter James CRN 158589, Port Philip Prison, P.O. Box 376, Laverton, Victoria, Australia
6. Kopp, James 11761-055, USP Canaan, P.O. Box 300, 3057 Easton Tpk., Waymart, PA 18472
7. Little, David SJRCC, 930 Old Black River Road, Saint John, NB E2J 4T3
8. Moose, Justin – Piedmont Regional Jail, PO Drawer 388, Farmville, VA 23901 (new)
9. Richardson, Alonzo Lee 12898-021, FCI Pollock Federal Correctional Institution, P.O. Box 4050, Pollock, LA 71467
10. Roeder, Scott P. 65192, PO Box 2, Lansing Kansas 66043
11. Ross, Michael, Custer County Jail, 1010 Main St., Miles City, Montana 59301
12. Rudolph, Eric 18282-058 US Pen. Max, Box 8500, Florence CO 81226-8500
13. Shannon, Rachelle 59755-065, FCI Waseca, Unit A, P.O. Box 1731, Waseca, MN 56093 3/31
14. Waagner, Clayton Lee 17258-039, United States Penitentiary, P.O. Box 1000, Lewisburg PA 17837 8/25

Even though it’s a shameful sin to abandon defenseless victims to their attackers, it’s a far worse sin when you attempt to pass the blame for that sin onto God by claiming that’s what he wanted you to do. And that’s precisely what so many people have done with their rejection of God’s clear and sensible instructions to defend the defenseless, and with their pretenses and excuses for rejecting those instructions. Pride is a terrible sin when it leads you to deny your own sin and instead say that God sinned. Peter James Knight

They say the “johndunk” email address has been “compromised” because an enemy got hold of the password. They say the enemy gets it by “phishing” -- he pretends to be your email provider and requests that you send him your address and password for security purposes. They say dummies fall for it. They say I’ve fallen for it twice.
But not three times! It’s up again but I had to promise them my blood that I would never ever again reveal to anyone or anybody, anywhere, now or at any time, my password.


The 15-year-old letter below indicates the foolish and/or cowardly and/or ignorant posture of the typical anti-abortion organization. Rather than affirm a consistent life ethic concerning the humanity of the child in the womb and articulate the legitimacy of the forceful defense of the innocent ones, anti-abort (a.k.a "prolife") organizations mindlessly condemned those who at personal risk and sacrifice defended the innocent who were threatened with death by legalized childslaughter.
And where did such "prudence" and organization-protecting rhetoric lead? What benefit did such cool-headed wisdom achieve?
Nothing. The truth is that the pro-abortion public does not believe that pro-lifers really believe their own rhetoric about the humanity of the child. By condemning those who act as if there is a real human being destroyed in each "procedure" known as an abortion; i.e. by condemning those who use force or by condemning those who publicly offer an apologetic for the use of force in such a circumstance as the present American Holocaust, such contemnors deny the Truth and prolong the holocaust. Rev. Michael Bray

Here’s the letter Rev. Bray refers to:

Dear Reverend Spitz, We have been informed that you are intending to come to Massachusetts for the John Salvi trial. Your public statements on the acceptability of violence do not represent the views of the pro-life movement – rather they are counter to everything that the pro-life movement represents.

At this very difficult time, you are not welcome in Massachusetts.

Madeline McComish, then president of Massachusetts Citizens for Life, sent the letter and three pro-life organizations endorsed it, the Pro-Life Office of the Archdiocese of Boston, the Value of Life Committee, and Women Affirming Life.

Anne Fox is now president of Massachusetts Citizens, and two of the other organizations are defunct; i.e., if they ever really existed. Interestingly, Marianne Rea-Luthin (she’s dropped the “Rea”), who was at least nominal director of Value of, has replaced Barbara S. Thorp as director of the bishop’s office.

Anyway, I asked Citizens for Life and the Pro-Life Office if they still endorse Ms. McComish’s sentiments but of course neither answered. Who can blame them? The sodomy crisis has stilled their pens and stopped their ears.

To extend this theme –, my favorite blog, posts pro-abortion essays by “Pat.” They are usually worth perusing. A recent essay includes this observation:
“I respect thoughtful anti-abortion advocates and support their right to try to make abortion illegal again through the judicial or legislative process. Knock yourselves out.”

I responded:

I’m going to use this, Pat. I’ve been arguing that our real war is not between you killers’ helpers and us pro-lifers, it’s between us who think we can make child killing illegal again through the judicial or legislative process and us who don’t. I think your opinion should carry weight.

On the other hand gay-rights lobbyists pushing for same-sex marriage show us how easy it would be to make child killing illegal again:

Gay-rights lobbyists cannot muster a majority in a plain popular vote. But they can concentrate their considerable lobbying energies on individual legislators, threatening to unseat those who would oppose them. They can exert one-way pressure on the judicial system, by bringing lawsuits against any adverse legislation and then strong-arming firms whose lawyers dare to represent the opposing view.

Phil Lawler wrote it and it’s spot on. Unfortunately, only Catholic bishops have the power to exert “one-way pressure” on pro-death politicians and judges, and guys like Burk and Chaput are in the minority. So it ain’t gonna happen anytime soon.
Here’s what going to happen soon: same-sex marriage legalized; pederasty legalized; chastity, abstinence, and Catholic marriage teachings outlawed (hate speech); infanticide legalized; euthanasia legalized, approved, and encouraged; etc. Then the Muslims (the only moral group left) will take over and those horrors, at least, will end.

Mr. Dunkle, I have seen my strategies in the pages of your wonderful publication, yet again. As always thank you for being so kind as to give air to my theories. A few notes I wanted to add – to all of my latest thoughts – are as follows:
Lately, I was hoping to meet someone who would help me establish two web pages.
1) I would like to formulate a web page that targets only secular society. The mission of this site would be part of the first page of it, announcing that it is a site which is directed toward advertising the ideas which are anti-abortion and that are non-religious. This would include scientific facts, those who are anti-abortion for other reasons, legalities which call abortion what it is – murder – and call for the protection of the unborn, facts that show the harm it brings to mother and father, et cetera.
2) The second site I want to “co-produce” is a pro-life movement site that connects all pro-life sites. It could do a number of things and serve many functions such as listing these sites, always giving a comprehensive site on pro-life directives, and what sort of finalities we seek in this fight. Also, it could serve as a common-ground to link Catholics, Protestants, and even other religions who want to save babies. We could encourage others to be the representatives of each section denomination: Catholic rep., Baptist rep., et cetera.
I do wish to find someone who will help me coordinate the production of these two sites.
If anyone is interested, please write me here at the prison. Thanks, John.
Always in Christ Jesus, Paul Evans

After you read Jim Kopp’s comments on Eric’s Abortion, the Irrepressible Conflict, reread at least Chapter 3.
Hi John, In RE recent chapter of Eric’s book: a few chapters back he was covering the current cultural/ethical zeitgeist of the feminists, bless their hearts, and it reminded me of an early 90’s Newsweek article in which pro-aborts went on and on about this debate, if you can imagine: whether it was better to do RU-486 instead of surgical AB because, get this, RU-486 made the AB happen while you are aware of it and that therefore it is somehow more honest than general anesthesia. I mention this unsalted bullcrap as an example of the false superstition or quasi-religious junk which surrounds AB since we do not clearly or forcefully enough oppose it. Trust me, under Obamacare, AB has risen to a much higher level of taking-for-granted. The secular world has moved on and is now discussing cloning, F, genome splicing and design, and with nationalized health care, teenage girls will have to routinely present themselves to school nurses with evidence of menses (I’m serious, I predict this).
I wish we could find the Newsweek article. It’s instructive to see the lengths these poor women went to to belabor the quasi-morality of their suffering.
The strangest thing about it is they meant it as a backhanded acknowledgement that AB is somehow serious, not to be taken lightly. But they murder anyway. I suspect they were really worshipping their own alleged power to murder, as if it somehow deified them? This is wickedness on top of wickedness, and the result of the 2nd and 3rd generation complacence on all sides. No one has an urgent sense to rescue now the next child about to be killed now.
May I mention another idea I got from Eric’s book? In the latest issue occurs this unqualified sentence: “Last, but not least you have no absolute right to life.”
May I suggest he add the parenthesis (. . . except for kids, of course) before the period, or sommat like that.
It is obvious contextually that the “you” in his sentence means adults. However, our enemies, bless their hearts, would happily quote the sentence out of context, attribute it to Eric, and use it to justify their exceptions to AB.
It’s a shame we have to think like this, but thirty years in the public forum has taught me never to underestimate the infantilism of our enemies. Just a fact.
Finally, in the same issue, Eric mentions a cash tort value to slaves. I’ve never heard of this one before but as reparation I’ll bet this is not an RC position.
It was the RCs who told the world to stop African slavery, and morally enforced it two-and-a-half centuries before liberal Protestants, bless their hearts, in England and New England, took credit for it. In fact, the “Black Legend” was created by the just-Reformed Dutch as a counterattack against Rome when Rome pointed the finger at Reformation Holland. The Black Legend is a false history of the Spanish Inquisition, fabricated a century after the fact (see Characters of the Inquisition, Thomas Carroll, and Seven Lies About Catholic History, Diane Mozcar, for the real dope on what did and didn’t happen at the Inquisition and the Crusades.)
RCs apologizing for historical non-offenses is wearying.
I haven’t thought about it before, but I’d guess cash tort value, in addition to being in se dehumanizing, is also prudentially wicked in that it would encourage slave owners in the waning months of the war, to run around and get more slaves, to get in the cash, kind of like the way the PRC currently arrests and executes Catholic and Falun Gong prisoners on demand, to sell their hearts and kidneys to wealthy Westerners in need of transplants (see recent Washington Times articles).
The thing I most appreciate about Eric’s book from what I read is he avoids the au courant revisionism (e.g., Roe v Wade, majority opinion) which implies, against the facts, that AB has always been around in long history, at even an infinitesimal fraction of the current high-tech, genocidal, neo-Albigensian push.
This revisionism idea, which Eric refutes, reminds me of the Uniformitarianism of geo-philosophical baloney that underlies Darwinism which says that the Flood (which explains fossil distribution) could not have happened because no one saw something like it happening lately. The same Darwinists deny Scripture qua history. See the connection? Now we have AB on every corner, for every exigency (including more government forced – stick around), therefore, it must always have been that way.
This conveys fatalism to each new generation of otherwise naturally modest young girls, delivering them into the hands of their rave/Playboy molesters, and, it has the effect of discouraging prolifers, but only if they buy into it. Once we know the true history, we then must say the truth: “the pro-aborts whipped this up yesterday; it does not have the hubris of centuries; it is a new matter and thus invalid for that reason (see Syllabus of Errors).

So happy you printed that, John. Fear not! Proddies, our dearly beloved sisters and brothers, can be saved too, provided they haven’t rejected true knowledge (not street corner idiocy) of the Real Presence, q.v. (Hebrews 13:13; Rev. 5:6; Romans 12;1; John 6:32+)
Smashing, that, what?

Boy, guys, ain’t these converts, like Jimbo and my father (“The Catholic Church is everything it says it is”), tough to deal with? ------------------------------------------------------------------

Neal Horsley receives this email from a marine:

It makes me proud to be an American when I see web sites like "".
As an openly GAY MARINE who fought on the front lines during the first two years in the sham, we now call the Iraq War, I lost a leg, an eye and my Big Brother during a mortar attack, so people like yourselves can continue to spew your hate.
You need to get on your knees and thank whatever god you worship, that there are men like my Brother , myself and the thousands of other gay men and lesbian women who wake up every day and make your America safer.
I really don't give a flying fuck what your little band of closeted butt boys think, but at least get your facts straight about gay sex.
My partner, lover and best friend of the last 14 years is a Drill Sgt. in the US Army.
Here is a little known fact you might want to think about. "The toughest, most hyper masculine, brave, compassionate, muscular, hung huge and best looking guys are almost always Homo"!
The whole "don't ask, don't tell", thing in the armed forces of our great nation is actually a big laugh within the rank and file of my fellow "jar heads".
Wake up pussy boys! Fags have been saving your little candy asses for literally thousands of years.
Anytime, anywhere..................OOOOORAAAAH!!!!

Neal comments:

As far as I can tell, I think the letter is probably real. It sure sounds like it to me.

Then comments:

It is true that military systems of tribes and nations through the ages have been heavily infused with faggotry. In some it was officially the bond of officers to their men, in others it was "behind the scenes." What should be expected when young men are separated from parents, family and community, and sent to all-male camps for weeks and months on end, and to faraway lands where the resident whores congregate around the bases and installations? Especially when most of those young men have no spiritual base or upbringing beyond "I think everyone should believe in something; I believe I'll have another beer"?
Christians have not been defended by sexual perverts and degenerates, but by the power of the same God Who protected Hananiah, Mishael and Azariah from Nebuchadrezzar's Fiery Furnace. That He uses one nation of degenerates to punish another nation of degenerates, thereby preserving His remnant from the rage of the heathen by setting them at one another's throats, is no credit to those perverts and degenerates.
If He chooses to preserve me from the rage of the heathen around me, I praise Him. If He does not so choose, well, the pot has no right to say to the Potter, "Why hast Thou made me thus?" but "The LORD gives and the LORD takes, blessed be His Name," and "Naked I came into the world, and naked shall I return to the dust, blessed be the Name of the LORD."
Does this degenerate actually believe he and his kind make America, or anywhere, safer? Right now they are being used to aggravate the hatreds of millions of devil-worshipping (the Black Stone of Mecca) Mohammedans into more rage? Just trumpet that the men who (supposedly) assassinated Osama bin Laden (who seems to have already been dead for ten or more years) were butt-busters?
Where have the thousands of obsolete nuclear weapons gone? They may be too deteriorated to detonate atomically but each has a very powerful chemical high explosive charge that is sufficient to scatter highly radioactive deteriorated plutonium dust over a wide area. Who knows where all those things went when the Soviet Empire collapsed?
Oh, well, unless Lord Jesus returns during my life, I won't be getting out of this place alive. Neither will my descendants. So why do we put so much weight on extending our lives here in this vale of tears? Just serve our Master until He calls us to our true home in His city foursquare. "Master, I am but an unprofitable servant. All I did was merely my duty, and that only by the help of the Lord Helper."
We do have it straight about perverted sexual behavior. The Bible tells us all we need.
How does a nation that has thrown off the guidance of the Bible and has a false balance and weight, treats adultery as a sport, fornication as normal, and laughs at the funny queers on TV supposed to expect anything but an army of perverts?

Neal comments again:

I'm reading a book by a Catholic woman named Randy Engel. It's a huge book cataloguing the history of homosexuality. About half way through it I realized that everything she was saying about the "Homosexual Collective" and its impact and agenda in this nation and the world could easily be said about the "Christian Collective."
Literally this generation--Christians as well as pagans--has made itself into sexual deviants by either actively and aggressively participating in and selling homosexuality and abortion, or by benignly tolerating the legalization of those evils giving nothing but lip service as opposition. Engel makes it clear that there are a large number of homosexual supporters who, while not fellating and sodomizing others themselves, participate vicariously by identifying themselves with the deviants or by merely tolerating them. In the same way the Christian Collective tolerates legalized abortion. While we may not make up the bulk of the aborters, we hold that option in abeyance should we see the need to exercise that "right" by refusing to mobilize to force this nation to abolish this evil. That makes us all sexual deviants to the extent we tolerate it.
Make sense?

Finally, me:

Yes, it does, Neal. And, GAY MARINE, in my time, the ‘50s and ‘60s, military homosexuality was little different from civilian homosexuality. Have things changed?

Neal brings our attention to more Catholic stuff:

Randy Engels is a Catholic female who spent 15 years compiling the definitive documentation of the Catholic Sodomy problem in the USA. Her book is called THE RITE OF SODOMY: Homosexuality and the Roman Catholic Church. It is 1277 pages of the most damning indictment of the Roman Catholic American Church that I could have ever imagined, and by extension of American Christianity.
Really it goes beyond anything I could have imagined. Given the problems Chet encountered from people who thought he did not respond to the Catholics fairly, this book proves that Chet, instead of overreacting, was being a prudent non-sensational reporter of a truth that is literally unimaginably horrible for a hierarchical organization that claims the name of Christ Jesus.
One paragraph will illustrate my point, but only hints at the myriad details Randy has uncovered and brought to the Light. On page 665 Randy reports, "The St. Matthew Community was established as a Roman Catholic religious community of homosexuals for homosexuals.” Let me repeat this. The St. Matthew Community was established as a Roman Catholic religious community of homosexuals for homosexuals."
The good news is the news is out about the Catholics. The bad news is protestant Christians have made it orthodoxy to ignore news like this, which means the stench of sexual sin among the protestant churches has barely been whiffed yet. Neal

I’ll let Neal speak for the Protestants. I’ll just say his Catholic observations are accurate. When we embraced masturbation and mutual masturbation (“birth control”) in the 50s, the roof fell in. And there’s little sign of its being raised. Masturbation and contraception are never mentioned these days and promoting them is the raison d’etre of some Catholic publications like Commonweal and America. ----------------------------------------------------------

Hello John, In each issue of your newsletter for about the last two years, or most issues, you’ve included a quote from one of my letters. It concludes with the words: “When they get what they’ll get, they’ll fully deserve it.” I’ve written to you asking that you cease publishing that quote.
For many years past I’ve been repulsed, even sickened, by the preaching of those who almost incessantly use threats of punishment or promises of reward. I am not one of them and would never want to be regarded as one, but when people see that quotation repeated time after time, that’s the image it might convey to some of them
. I believe it’s correct to make people aware that there is such a place as heaven and is such a place as hell, but to continue to hark on about either one serves no good purpose. I’m certainly not one of those who shun the use of criticism either, even harsh criticism when people fall into serious error and refuse to recognize their sins or refuse to change, but if people can’t or won’t do the correct thing out of compassion or love, if the only way they can be persuaded to do something is with threats of punishment or promises of reward, then they are a lost cause. I received a prime example of this kind of preaching in the mail only recently. Five pamphlets about the crucifixion and about believing in Jesus, all talking loads of nonsense and all laden with threats of punishment (hell) if people didn’t comply. If that’s the incentive you give people to do something, then you can’t complain when that artificiality is the reason they comply. What a shocker, to attempt to bring people to faith or have them base their actions on a foundation of threats and promises.
Since it’s the only language so many people understand, it is the job of government to limit the incidence of serious crime by threats of punishment. And even though it is necessary for preachers to play a role in limiting the incidence of serious crime, the principal role and the primary objective of any preacher must be to achieve that by getting people to act out of compassion or love. Thoroughly tough job though that might be.
It’s not that those words – “When they get what they’ll get,” – were made as a threat, and it’s not as if they are a reference to hell either. They are neither one, but that’s how some people might take them. The words are simply a statement to emphasize the evilness of people’s behavior, most notably with their response to abortion and abortionists, by saying they are deserving of severe punishment. The following statement says much the same thing but with the use of slightly different words.
Even though it’s a shameful sin to abandon defenseless victims to their attackers, it’s a far worse sin when you attempt to pass the blame for that sin onto God by claiming that’s what he wanted you to do. And that’s precisely what so many people have done with their rejection of God’s clear and sensible instructions to defend the defenseless, and with their pretenses and fake excuses for rejecting those instructions. Pride is a terrible sin when it leads you to deny your own sin and instead say that God sinned.
Abortion isn’t the greatest evil of this age, atrocity though it is. It’s exceeded by people’s misrepresentation of God and their thinly veiled attacks against him, especially by those purporting to be Christians. That is what gives so-called Christianity a bad name – people laying claims to that title and obviously failing to live up to it. Peter James Knight

Dear John, during the early 1960s, the civil rights movement was being extended not only to blacks and women, but also to children. Unfortunately, civil rights for America's children were cut short once black men and white women started having so much sex together that many felt there was no other way to cover up for the scandal than by hiding the evidence with abortion. For example, the day after the Roe v. Wade decision in 1973, President Nixon commented that he knew abortion was (socially) "necessary" when "you have a black [man] and a white [woman]." As a result, civil rights for children were derailed, even though civil rights for women and blacks continued to gain steam.
But that was 1973. A decade earlier the civil rights movement had been gaining steam even for children. For example, in 1963, by Executive Order 11098, President Kennedy defined a man's "child" to include "a legitimate or illegitimate child from the date of its conception," and further recognized that a man could have a "bona fide" relationship with his child at conception, and that men other than the biological father could support a child at conception in "good faith."
A bona fide relationship with a child includes the courage to defend the child in good faith from acts of homicide. Hence, the actions of Mr. Scott P. Roeder in killing Dr. George R. Tiller to defend children from homicide during pregnancy and birth are in complete accord with the civil rights of the child, having legal roots in Executive Order 11098 and the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States. This counters any suggestion that Mr. Roeder acted on belief alone in absence of legal or moral support for his actions.

Here is the relevant excerpt from Executive Order 11098, amending 32 C.F.R. 1622 (Code of Federal Regulations, relating to the Selective Service System):
Paragraph (a) of section 1622.30 of Part 1622, is amended to read as follows:

"(a) In Class III-A shall be placed any registrant who has a child or children with whom he maintains a bona fide family relationship in their home and who is not a physician, dentist, or veterinarian." [...]

Paragraph (c) of section 1622.30 is amended to read as follows:

"(c) (1) The term 'child' as used in this section shall include a legitimate or an illegitimate child from the date of its conception, a child legally adopted, a stepchild, a foster child, and a person who is supported in good faith by the registrant in a relationship similar to that of parent and child but shall not include any person 18 years of age or over unless he is physically or mentally handicapped. [...]

"(3) No registrant shall be placed in Class III-A under paragraph (a) of this section because he has a child which is not yet born unless prior to the time the local board mails him an order to report for induction which is not subsequently canceled there is filed with the local board the certificate of a licensed physician stating that the child has been conceived, the probable date of its delivery, and the evidence upon which his positive diagnosis of pregnancy is based." Sincerely, Cal

Reread this. Simply magnificent.

1 comment:

Anonymous said...

The "other John Dunkle", again, briefly: I don't believe you can realistically defend Eric Rudolph. Even if you can make an argument for employing force against those who provide or promulgate abortions...Mr. Rudolph did not do this. He attacked innocent people; yes, he had previously attacked abortion clinics, but even if you find that defensible, surely the planting of a pipe-bomb in the Olympic stadium -- a venue having absolutely nothing to do with the issue of abortion -- surely, this is nothing more than random terrorism and destruction. Mr. Rudolph was (and presumably, is) an intelligent, seemingly-reasonable person...but that does not excuse terrorism or random violence. Why is he on your list as a "Prisoner for Christ"?