Thursday, July 07, 2011

Abortion is Murder, 9-4, August, 2011

1. Formerly Stop the Killing of Young People (skyp) and soon, perhaps, Stop Killing Preemies

August, 2011 Vol. 9 No. 4
PO Box 7424, Reading, PA 19603
Phone – 484-706-4375
Email –
Web –
Circulation – 124
John Dunkle, Editor

Abortion is Murder, a weak, pathetic response to baby murder, is sent out at least once a month. If the gestapo hasn’t jailed you for defending the innocent realistically, you either have to tell me you want it or go to the website. Faxes and emails are free but snail-mail is free only for PFCs, $100 for others.
Because I believe we should examine every legitimate means, including force, in our attempt to protect those being tortured to death, I want to hear from people who’ve been forceful. I’d also like to hear from those prolifers and pro-deathers who call force violence.

Prisoners for Christ:

1. Evans, Paul Ross 83230-180, USP McCreary, P.O. Box 3000, Pine Knot, KY 42635
2. Gibbons, Linda, Vanier WDC, 655 Martin St., P.O. Box 1040, Milton, ON, Canada L9T 5E6
3. Griffin, Michael 310249, 5914 Jeff Ates Rd., Milton, FL 32583-0000
4. Jordi, Stephen 70309-004, FCI P.O. Box 33, Terre Haute IN 47802 6/30
5. Knight, Peter James, P.O. Box 376, Laverton, Victoria, Australia
6. Kopp, James 11761-055, USP Canaan, P.O. Box 300, 3057 Easton Tpk., Waymart, PA 18472
7. Little, David SJRCC, 930 Old Black River Road, Saint John, NB E2J 4T3
8. Moose, Justin – FCI Talladega, P.O. Box 1000, Talladega, AL 35160
9. Richardson, Alonzo Lee 12898-021, FCI Pollock Federal Correctional Institution, P.O. Box 4050, Pollock, LA 71467
10. Roeder, Scott P. 65192, PO Box 2, Lansing Kansas 66043
11. Ross, Michael, Custer County Jail, 1010 Main St., Miles City, Montana 59301
12. Rudolph, Eric 18282-058 US Pen. Max, Box 8500, Florence CO 81226-8500
13. Shannon, Rachelle 59755-065, FCI Waseca, Unit A, P.O. Box 1731, Waseca, MN 56093 3/31
14. Waagner, Clayton Lee 17258-039, United States Penitentiary, P.O. Box 1000, Lewisburg PA 17837 8/25

Even though it’s a shameful sin to abandon defenseless victims to their attackers, it’s a far worse sin when you attempt to pass the blame for that sin onto God by claiming that’s what he wanted you to do. And that’s precisely what so many people have done with their rejection of God’s clear and sensible instructions to defend the defenseless, and with their pretenses and fake excuses for rejecting those instructions. Pride is a terrible thing when it leads you to deny your own sin and instead say that God sinned. Peter James Knight

Just recently my favorite website,, attracted an eloquent prolife voice, deanna. Here’s one of her recent comments:

Aborticentrism (signature of a killers’ helper): FYI I read your website. It’s a bunch of psycho babble. Let me make my reply simple: I am not afraid of death, this is not why I do what I do. I do what I do because I think that it is a horrible thing to tear babies’ limbs off and crush their heads all so that a girl can finish school or have a career or whatever other reason she does it. It is an absolutely horrible thing. You can make it all about the pro-lifers and how psychotic we are if that’s what you need to do to feel better about it, but the reality is that babies are still dying. THAT is the issue! They die a horrible painful awful death and you advocate for it! People wouldn’t advocate doing that to a dog but they will come up with fake reasons to justify doing it to a human
My little nephew was born at 21 weeks. I went to the hospital to see him. He was perfect! He cried, tried to eat, kicked his little arms and legs and fought like crazy to live but 12 hours later he died because his little lungs weren’t developed enough. But HE was a person, a human, and he deserved that chance to live. He was not one bit different from all of those other 21 week ones that are dismembered weekly that deserve the chance to live.
You can hide behind all of your pro-choice rhetoric and conclusions about pro-lifers if you want to but that doesn’t change the fact that precious little tiny babies die. They die brutally! That little baby that I saw was precious and didn’t deserve to have his arms and legs torn off or his head crushed. Why do the others deserve it? Because you deem it so? Well that’s not a good enough reason.
You guys who advocate for abortion and advertise for it need to look closely at what you are doing. You are advocating and advertising to have little babies torn apart all for the sake a principal that is false at best and for the sake of a dollar at worst. I can argue studies on this and that all day long and argue about what pro-lifers do and don’t do all day long but it doesn’t help because you refuse to look at the babies.
You say that this is all we pro-lifers think about. Well maybe you need to think about it for a few seconds. Imagine that tiny little baby asleep in its mother’s womb. Now imagine that you are ripping it apart limb by limb. Yes, YOU! Because when you advocate for it and advertise for it, then you are the same as doing it! Their blood will be on your hands!

I don’t agree with deanna’s last sentence, but when I read powerful writing like this, I get sad because I remember what Newman said – “Quarry the granite rock with a razor, moor the vessel with a thread of silk, then may you hope that with such keen and delicate instruments as human knowledge and human understanding to combat those giants, the passion and pride of man.”

Kathy Kuhns, a woman From West Reading, PA, who runs Pro-Life Berks, has been attacking me for years, mostly because of this newsletter.
A spokesperson for our Catholic diocese in Allentown, PA, recently supported her:

Dear Mr. Dunkle: In response to your e-mail dated April 15, Pro-Life Berks has no affiliation with the Diocese of Allentown. It is an independent organization. However, we are aware that many of its members are Catholic parishioners.
In the past, Kathy has indicated to us that Pro-Life Berks does not want to be an organization that fights violence with violence. They have indicated to us that they want to be viewed by the authorities and the communities of both Reading and Allentown as peaceful but committed protesters and sidewalk counselors. To serve this goal, Kathy has created a list of guidelines that she shared with us that seem reasonable.
The Diocese of Allentown does not approve of violence as a means to defend life.
It is our understanding that Pro-Life Berks has adopted a similar position, and that it too rejects violence as a means to defend life.
On occasion, Kathy of Pro-Life Berks has brought to our attention the differences between the Pro-Life Berks position rejecting violence, and the views of others that do not support non-violence. It is the view of the Diocese that if such differences cannot be amicably resolved for all concerned to fully embrace a commitment to non-violent conduct, then the suggestion has been offered that it would be best for those who do not fully embrace a philosophy of non-violence to be distanced from Pro-Life Berks’ activities.
Sincerely, Mrs. Maryann Dunn M.S.

So, the Diocese agrees with Kathy and warns people to avoid me because I am not committed to the anti-force position in the abortion war

Don’t you just love stuff like this though: “It is the view of the Diocese that if such differences cannot be amicably resolved for all concerned to fully embrace a commitment to non-violent conduct, then the suggestion has been offered that it would be best for those who do not fully embrace a philosophy of non-violence to be distanced from Pro-Life Berks’ activities.”

It’s an example of bureaucratese, and it’s a gem.

The Allentown Diocese spokeswoman who wrote that just announced her retirement. I’ll bet she wrote it on her own and then someone over there, realizing that Catholics are not Quakers, “ spoke” to her. Maybe he even got hold of what that magnificent Protestant, Rev. Michael Bray, commenting on a pro-life film, says about the issue:

“A fine promotional film, calling us to "do something" for the innocents. But it needs to be spruced up with some pictures of blown up abortuaries and dead abortionists so that the whole gamut of legitimate responses can be truly lauded, and the humanity of the child -- and thus his rightful defensibility -- can by honestly upheld. As we have maintained, it is clear that one need not call another to specifically take lethal or forceful action as the only appropriate action under the circumstances of a government-protected-and-funded holocaust. For the call to martyrdom (for that is what such action essentially is) is not extended to everyone. We are to each bear witness according to the gifts and callings of God. But woe to those who deny and disparage the servants of God who act faithfully to the call He has placed upon their lives.”

I sent it to Kathy Kuhns with this comment:

In all my forty-one years of pro-life activity, I have never met anyone who denies and disparages those servants of God as much as you do. No one, I mean no pro-lifer and no pro-deather. We are talking here about the one in a million who’s had the courage to sacrifice his life, like Paul Hill, or her freedom, like Shelley Shannon, to save others.
No one is saying you have to follow in their footsteps or even agree with what they did, but please, please, allow them to rest in peace. Stop carrying on this obscene vendetta against them.
Look, I know that for the past fifteen years you have sacrificed time and money in the abortion war, as I have for the past forty, but that doesn’t even compare with what people like Paul and Shelley have sacrificed.

Neal Horsley strikes again:

Saboteurs of the Reformation

Since I took a degree from Westminster Theological Seminary in Philadelphia, the institution founded in 1929 by Machen and Van Til to preserve the Reformation in the face of the hosts determined to destroy the role of Scripture as the rule and guide for life in the USA, I am qualified to speak about the status of the Reformation on earth today. The Reformation is being destroyed. From within. Those who claim to be the children and heirs of the Reformation are its worst enemies. If you will examine the following picture, many words will be preserved:
Notice that the picture is headed, "RC Sproul speaks for Christians". That's true because, as a leading teacher of Reformed Christian doctrine, RC Sproul embodies the mindset of a huge number of the wealthiest, best educated, most respected Christians in the USA. The picture illustrates that RC Sproul has swallowed a camel that is choking him to death, the camel I labeled "LEGALIZED ABORTION." The point of the picture is the gnats who are being strained out by RC Sproul simply have to wait until he enters the last paroxysm of choking, then fly into RC's dying maw, and, as the Lord Jesus implied when He told the Pharisees that they would strain a gnat while swallowing a camel, neither the gnats nor the camel would be stopped from destroying God's people.

Another picture eases that knowledge into consciousness:

Thirty-eight years after abortion was legalized in the USA, the fact that this generation of Christian men in the USA have surrendered to legalized abortion is either self-evident to you, or you, like the adherents of King George in the American colonies, prove you serve a king that will tolerate your enslavement to men rather than serve the Lord Jesus Christ as your King in Spirit and Truth.
But even people who know that this nation has surrendered to evil do not understand that Reformed Christians are the cause of this surrender.
Lord Holy Ghost must overcome this ignorance.
Here's exactly how the Reformation was sabotaged. The "reformers" like RC Sproul and this current generation of Westminster types committed hari-kari by falling on the sword of their own tumescent penises. No group of Christian men are more enslaved to their women than the men who call themselves Reformed Christians. And those women are willing to tolerate legalized abortion forever rather than arrest the "progress" of the women's liberation movement. By surrendering to the women who will do anything to protect their "right" to murder their own children, the men of the Reformation made the Catholic's false accusation against Luther come true in this generation by making it appear that the reformation WAS all about orgasm, all about being sucked into the vaginal vortex, all about doing whatever was necessary to facilitate orgasms even if it meant the Body of Christ was sacrificed in the process.
Look around you today and you will see the Body of Christ is being sacrificed every time an unborn baby is sacrificed to Satan because as the Lord told us, "As ye did it unto the least of these, ye did it unto me".
I am one of the few true Reformers left in this nation because, like the true Reformers of history, I will go to war before I will surrender to the god of this world. But I will not go to war alone as other reformers like Rev. Paul Hill have done in this generation.
Paul Hill's sacrifice must be used to prove that we cannot be Reformers alone. God must raise up an army, raise up a New Reformation, or 2 Thess. 2 is upon us.
2 Thess. 2 is not complete as long as there is one Reformer willing to die trying to make the Reformation complete. But the true Reformers must organize as an army to have a fighting chance to do the Will of God, just as we had to organize in the past to fight to the death if that is what the Reformation requires.
The end is in sight. Ignore my plea and you, and all the other Christians who join in your ignorance of the strategy I embody, personally usher in 2 Thess. 2.

Is that where you want to be when the Lord returns?
Who would admit they are willing to risk their relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ on their slavery to the orgasm? Obviously, virtually no Christian in the world is willing to make that admission. But still that is exactly what is happening in this generation of "Reformed Christians".
That's why it will take a miracle from Lord Holy Ghost to expose the evil that proves how Satan used the libidos of the best educated, wealthiest Christians in the USA and turned them into the bedrock foundation upon which legalized abortion was erected to become the most heinous altar to Satan ever erected upon earth.

For us it was never the Reformation but the Deformation. Even so, I think Neal is wrong here to lay the blame for this holocaust on Protestants. It’s Catholics all the way.

Eric Rudolph writes from Colorado

Dear Mr. Dunkle, After six years trading cells with a psychopath on the same range, they moved me to another unit. It seems to be a relaxation of my security status. In my old cells the television was encased in a Plexiglas box with only the controls accessible. My new cell has a television out of the box. They also removed me from live monitoring phone calls. It was always a hassle arranging for a staff member to get on the other end of the phone to monitor my calls. The overall make-up of the unit is a bit different. Gang bangers mostly, tattooed half wits who stabbed somebody and got lock down. The old unit had an eclectic mix of political cases, and plain old nut cases. We’ll see how it turns out.
They routinely reject your newsletter. My mother manages to get a few excerpts through the censors every now and then. I do appreciate your posting my book in the newsletter. For anyone who wants it, it’s free of charge at
I’m banging away on another book which chronicles the events which led to my incarceration. I don’t know when or where it will be available. I’ll keep you informed.
Your friend, E

Get hold of Eric’s Abortion, the Irrepressible Conflict. It’s a masterpiece. Several years ago I ran Eric’s account of his five years on the run. Another masterpiece.

And here’s a continuation of Michael Griffin’s “The Death of Truth: Satan’s Agenda”:

Then came the radio which God again intended to further his gospel. The gospel has now been crowded out with content; again to wean men from the gospel message. It started with entertainment and sports, then music other than that which pleases God, and now with the satellite radio back to that which worships Satan and destroys men’s minds.
Television was no different. When invented, if you were homebound, you could get a gospel message in your living room, and again Satan’s agenda was to slovenly infest and then take over this medium. Now with some gospel programing, you get five hundred channels of some of the most disgusting things Satan has ever come up with.
With the internet the Gospel is in every country and more people have access to it than ever before. It is a wonderful resource and so Satan’s attack is relentless. He is destroying men’s lives and ministries. For a preacher who wouldn’t be seen dead in a pornography shop, he can access millions of pornographic images in the privacy of his church office.
The pinnacle of technology is the pinnacle of Satan’s agenda. In every technology man has come up with, Satan has sown his vile seed in it and there are far more tares than wheat.
Now a generation has grown up bombarded with filth and it is the new world.
The proverbial frog is in the pan and it’s past warming up. It’s a rolling boil.
We as the church must hand the frog a thermometer because he no longer “feels” uncomfortable because he is used to the new normalcy of deviancy. That thermometer is the truth of God’s Word and its standard and not this world’s standard.
The Church must take the words of 2 Chronicles 7:14 and make them their own and do them; especially turn from their wicked way. The world calls wickedness fun. They sell it in books, on TV, and over the internet.
We need our spiritual compass back. We need a GPS, God’s Positioning System, that clearly shows us where we are in God’s eyes by looking at ourselves in the mirror of His word and then using His Word to show us where we need to be and the most direct path to get there. Millions of people follow instructions emanating from their dashboard but refuse the clear instruction of God’s Word.

Getting on God’s path.

1. The first step is repentance of anything not in God’s will according to his Word. For the unsaved this should be followed by belief in the Lord Jesus Christ for salvation. This step necessarily involves turning and fleeing from anything not in God’s Word (Will). No hesitation, no regrets for the sinner and the saved. Put your whole life in the sifter that is God’s Word. Be an imitator of Christ and an example to others. Let your light shine and therefore Glorify god.
2. Break down the strongholds in your life. Pornography, adultery, and everything that promotes them: TV, magazines, and books.
3. Remove yourself from fellowship with unbelievers. Come out from among them. Draw them from the mine to Christ, but don’t jump into it with them.
4. Daily increase your time in prayer under God’s word. Mediate on Psalm 49 and all of its benefits and of course obey its many commands.
5. Surround yourself with strong Christians of the same sex who can encourage you and exhort you to higher and better things.
6. Pray for and look for opportunities to witness to unbelievers. (tbc)

Kathy Kuhns and I are not the only prolifers at odds. Look here at two of the best:

States which properly, rightfully, morally, and lawfully refuse to recognize such abomination as "marriage" ought to repudiate and secede from the union to protect their citizens from the wrath of God which this action earns and invites.
This is yet another ground for secession, the more fundamental of which was the Roe decision of 1973. A nation which abandons such fundamental principles of governance has no right to rule over anyone but a base people who cower under such disgusting and illegitimate authority.
This federal government has no right to rule the states of this once noble nation. A state governor, its legislature and courts have no obligation to continue in a union with other states under such a blasphemous mockery of government.
I will happily take up arms, deputized as necessary, and follow the governor who will lead.
Okay. So Rev. Bray's admitted strategy below requires getting a Governor willing to nullify evil federal laws to get elected in one State.
Wonder why when we've got a candidate--your humble servant--who fills all the requirements of a secessionist/nullification governor, that candidate can't get support from the very people who say they are in favor of secession? Does a 55 year old case of confessed and repented mule-fornication justify waiting for the next candidate while thousands of babies a day continue to be butchered? Or is there evidence of unconfessed sin that disqualifies the only avowed candidate who embodies the exact strategy Rev. Bray advocates?
That is the question brave men like Rev. Bray have waiting for them on Judgment Day, if not sooner. Neal

Hello John:


Despite having read all that I have written, or most of it, it seems there are people who still do not understand why I set out on the mission I undertook. Letters I receive so often ask:
“What good has it done? How has it worked?
This just about always follows or precedes the remark:
“You haven’t saved any unborn babies.”
I don’t argue that claim, even though nobody knows whether the claim’s correct or not. Or perhaps that should read : because nobody knows. On this same point I also recall words made regarding Paul Hill’s actions which were reported recently in this publication. The following words, or words very similar:
“A number of abortionists left the field when this happened, and others left later.”
You, John, then replied to that:
“Just imagine the number of people alive today because of Paul Hill.”
However, unless Paul Hill created or helped create a “shortage” in the supply of abortionists, then it doesn’t really matter how many he drove out of the practice. When you’ve created such a “shortage,” then driving abortionists out achieves nothing. From what I’ve heard, no such shortage has been created (as yet).

There’s a much more important issue at stake here, though, than the saving of unborn babies, an issue which almost everyone seems to disregard. To say that Paul Hill saved babies does not do Paul Hill the credit that is due to him. I have seen people who have undeniably saved unborn babies and who could only correctly be described and low-graders. People who have failed their greatest responsibility. Rather than to be placed into the same category as those low graders, Paul Hill deserves to be saluted with the much higher accolade, that he preached and promoted the true Gospel. Since so few have, and since that has much greater importance, that places him into the more meritorious and rarer category where he belongs.

Thus begins a letter I received recently. I won’t tell you yet who sent it. Guess.

More from deanna. I just can’t help it. Is there a better spokesperson for us alive, outside of prison?

A pro-deather writes: “Of course the fetus is human. We’ve been through this a million times. But so is the woman,” and deanna responds: So why does one human get to kill another human? for college? career? finances? relationships? don’t like the other human’s gender? too many humans at home? too young to carry a human in her womb for a few months? no time for a human? too stressed for a human? that human has downs syndrome? that human is sick? just don’t like humans? humans are noisy? humans poop? humans eat too much? humans keep you up at night?
I mean WHAT IS IT that makes one person supreme over another to the point of death for the other?
Yes the woman is human but what makes her be God that she gets to choose who lives and who dies? and what gives her the right to decide that the other human is less than her?
I have never questioned her value, what I have questioned is the fact that she thinks the other human is less than her. By virtue of the fact that it is human it IS NOT less than her.
You guys like to throw around the term “reproductive freedom” but reproductive freedom only means that I get to kill another human if it suits me because that human is less than me.
Well congratulations! You have just arrived at Godhood status.
That thinking that one human dies at my choosing is the most arrogant self-centered idea that humanity ever came up with.
It is legal but it certainly isn’t moral.
It is impossible for it to be moral by its very nature. When one human chooses that another dies for reasons of self, then it is impossible for it to be moral.

Furthermore: “I can only say that abortion is wrong today, it was wrong yesterday,” he said. “Abortion was never right. But it is one of the most lamentable frailties of mankind that when one’s wrong is most grievous, his self-justification is most passionate, perhaps in the pitiful hope that the fervor of his self-defense will somehow prove him right. But this doesn’t make it so. And he doesn’t fool himself.”

I’m postponing Jimbo’s continuation of Stacey & Hutch till September because Dr. Frank just wrote this: I was disgusted with the Casey Anthony verdict. OK, so they didn't think there was enough evidence to convict her of murdering her daughter. Apparently, the jury bought the story of the defense that the child drowned in the swimming pool.
If so, then why wait 31 days to report it to the police. This negligence ALONE should be enough to send Casey to prison for 30 years, even if she did NOT kill Caylee.
Anyhow, here is the reason why the jury came to their ridiculous conclusion: I wrote it about ten years ago, but brought it up to date because of the Casey Anthony trial.

Roe vs. Wade decision in 1973 saves Casey Anthony's hide

Respect for life is a principle, and when women are given the power to decide if a helpless baby in their womb is going to die, then don't be so surprised when they think that a baby is subject to their will, and kill him, or her, five seconds after birth and throw her/him in a dumpster, or 2 years after birth and throw her/him in a swamp. The principle of violence is the same.
And don't be surprised when the killing of 1.4 million unborn babies yearly becomes a major factor in the public's perception that life is cheap. That perception will be stored in the brain, where it will be retrieved to determine all future actions and reactions.
Now, we have to suffer the consequences of that perception. Do you like what you hear, or read when you turn on the news, or read the newspapers these days? So don't be surprised if a person's disrespect for the sanctity of life rubs off on his or her children, or on a jury, and don't be surprised when children kill children, or anyone else who gets in their way.
And don't be surprised when a jury deems an infant’s life so cheap that it would require an eye witness of a murder of a child to convict them.
Lying to the police on numerous occasions won't cut it. Not reporting the child missing for over 31 days while partying will just be ignored by the jury. Caylee Anthony's skeletal remains were discovered December 11, 2008, five months after she was reported missing by her grandmother, Cindy Anthony -- not by her mother, Casey Anthony. The smell of a decomposing body in the trunk did nothing for the jury.
A forensic report by Dr. Arpad Vass of the ORNL stated that results from an air sampling procedure (called LIBS) performed in the trunk of Casey Anthony's car showed chemical compounds "consistent with human decomposition.” Of course, ignored by the jury.
A hair of the child found in the trunk was also ignored. Traces of chloroform found in the trunk were ignored. Documents released by the State Attorney's Office in Florida indicated that the same type of laundry bag, duct tape, and plastic bags discovered at the crime scene were found in the house where Casey and Caylee resided -- again, ignored by the jury.
To the jury Caylee's life wasn't worth a dime. 43% of all women have had at least one of their unborn children killed. Caylee just happened to be to close to being in the womb for the jury to get excited about.
The closer the child is to being in the womb, the less that child's life is worth.
For instance, if the mother killed the child at birth, she will just get a slap on the wrist. If she killed the child at 6 months after birth and makes up a wild story about the child's death, she'll get a short term in prison. If she kills the child at 1-2 years old -- a little longer time in prison and on and on.
So, Casey Anthony can thank the infamous Roe vs. Wade decision in 1973 that legalized the killing of unborn children for saving her hide.
There used to be a time when the safest place to be was in the mother's womb. She would protect her unborn baby with her life. Now, since Roe v. Wade, it's the most dangerous place on the face of the earth. One-third of all babies are now killed. We should hang our heads in shame.
If the unborn baby is lucky to have a loving mother he/she will live. If not, the baby is killed in a horrible manner. Nowadays, it's the luck of the draw that will determine if you live or die. What a sad commentary on our public morals. Life and death decisions should be in the hands of God, our Creator, and not at the whim of the baby's mother.
One of the fundamental premises of our society is that we are all endowed by our CREATOR, not by a woman's decision, not by court decisions, but by our CREATOR, with inalienable rights. The killing of unborn babies destroys that premise, thus destroying everything that you believe in -- even the Declaration of Independence:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

Notice -- it does NOT say that all men are "born equal." It says, "all men are CREATED EQUAL."
When our learned forefathers wrote the Declaration of Independence, they chose their words carefully, so there would be no misinterpretation. But the pro-abortion people will not accept it. They have chosen to discredit and mock our country's most revered document, just to satisfy their agenda.
It's not a private issue concerning a woman's decision. It’s like slavery, when human beings were not considered whole persons and had no rights and were subject to the will of their owners.

It's the most important issue of public principle that America faces today. Are we to be a nation under GOD with compassion, love and decency, or a barbaric nation of degeneracy, which embraces the ideology that one of our freedoms should be TO KILL, if we so choose?