formerly, Abortion is Murder, and, before that, skyp
(stop killing young
people)
February, 2014, Vol. 11
No. 19
PO Box 7424, Reading, PA 19603
Phone, 484-706-4375
Web, skyp1.blogspot.com
Circulation, 189
Editor, John Dunkle
“Contraception” is
Murder, a weak, pathetic response to baby murder, is sent out at least once a
month. If the gestapo hasn’t jailed you
yet for defending the innocent realistically, you either have to tell me you
want it or go to the website. Emails are
free but snail-mail is free only for PFCs, two grand for others.
Because I believe we should examine every
legitimate means, including force, in our attempt to protect children from
being tortured to death, I want to hear
from people who’ve been forceful and from those who defend them. I’d also like
to hear from those who oppose the prolife use of force and call it violence.
Prisoners For Christ:
1. Evans, Paul
Ross 83230-180, FCI, PO Box 1500, El Reno, OK 73036
2. Griffin,
Michael 310249, BRCF, 5914 Jeff Atles Rd., Milton, FL 32583-00000
3. Grady,
Francis 11656-089, USP Allenwood, P.O. Box 3000, White Deer, PA 17887
4. Holt,
Gregory 129616 Varner Supermax, PO
Box 600, Grady, AR 71644-0600
5. Kopp, James
11761-055, USP Canaan, P.O. Box 300,
Waymart, PA 18472
6. Roeder,
Scott 65192 PO Box 2, Lansing,
Kansas 66043
7. Rogers,
Bobby Joe 21292-017, USP
Beaumont, PO Box 26030, Beaumont, TX
77720
8. Rudolph,
Eric 18282-058 US Pen. Max, Box 8500, Florence CO 81226-8500
9. Shannon, Rachelle 59755-065, FCI
Waseca, Unit A, P.O. Box 1731, Waseca,
MN 56093
10. Waagner, Clayton Lee 17258-039, USP,
P.O. Box 1000, Lewisburg PA 17837
Here’s the rest of Cathy Ramey’s
essay on Jani McMath:
Why a new chart? Doctor's are prohibited from treating a patient
unless it is to that patient's benefit. They can justify (in their medical
worldview) the drugs that preserve organs by arguing the patient might gain
some supportive benefit from such drugs, at least temporarily. (Long term,
these drugs or supplements can have a very toxic influence on the body.)
But to "harvest" organs is never a benign procedure and requires the personal authorization of the patient or advocates like family, lawyer, medical POA, etc.
Patient A can agree to donate a kidney, part of a lung, or skin for the benefit of another compatible patient B, but she cannot rightly give permission to have her life ended (active euthanasia) by organ donation. (Hence the conflict over prisoners donating organs when they are under a death sentence.)
Therefore, the "patient" who is "harvested" must be different frm the patient whose chart was closed as "deceased."
Anyone who is going into a hospital, or who suffers from traumatic or chronic illnesses should have a strong advocate in place. It would be nice if we could all trust the medical industry, but the stark reality is that we simply cannot! In spite of the "Marcus Welby, M.D." and "House" representations where doctors bend over backwards and take enormous personal risks to give good care for the benefit of the patient (and not the benefit of their wallets, other transplant patients or the hospital budget), all those who work in "medicine," as with every industry, have good and bad actors. When money is connected with an outcome, many fall into temptation. A strong advocate is all the more necessary because a "simple" surgery or a "short" hospital treatment can sometimes turn into a disaster. Never take for granted that the medical team, or select medical individuals who make critical decisions on your behalf are looking toward only your best interest and to preserve your life.
Are you a cynical person who believes "If three doctors all say a person is 'dead,' she must be dead because most doctors can be trusted"?
There are over a million babies who die quite definitively each year while under the control of a "trusted physician-surgeon." The moment of death comes as their bodies are pulled apart, cut to pieces, or violated with surgical instruments to the heart or brain, and not because of the child's own failure to be alive and growing. Surgical abortionists kill between 1.1 to 1.4 million Unborn babies each year in the U.S. for their own personal profit, and that of the co-conspiring mother and other entities involved. Another untold million or more are killed through abortifacient drugs.
With so many doctors and other medical personnel willing to justify active killing for financial gain in just one class of persons (the Unborn), why do you think all the doctors who treat you over the years can be trusted to do all they can to spare your life?
I do not know enough about Jahi's personal medical situation, but I know enough to be cynical towards an over-abundance of blind trust in people who are called "experts" only by virtue of a degree and without any resort to character or personal values which always have a play-out in "professional ethics," and their financial integrity.
Jahi's parents are in a position that most of us never want to experience, though some have. We must continue to pray with them that GOD override all motivations to this child's harm. I pray she recovers or that GOD gives these parents the supernatural ability to allow Him to take her home according to His clock. The most unnatural thing for any parent is to cheaply value a child and discard them easily. Yet in this age, we see parents do that every day. Let's affirm the love Jahi's parents are demonstrating in demanding every proof of death possible for the eternal gift GOD has given them in a child. All else they invest in will one day burn, but if they are faithful, they have the hope that GOD will use them to compel their children to salvation in Jesus Christ.
But to "harvest" organs is never a benign procedure and requires the personal authorization of the patient or advocates like family, lawyer, medical POA, etc.
Patient A can agree to donate a kidney, part of a lung, or skin for the benefit of another compatible patient B, but she cannot rightly give permission to have her life ended (active euthanasia) by organ donation. (Hence the conflict over prisoners donating organs when they are under a death sentence.)
Therefore, the "patient" who is "harvested" must be different frm the patient whose chart was closed as "deceased."
Anyone who is going into a hospital, or who suffers from traumatic or chronic illnesses should have a strong advocate in place. It would be nice if we could all trust the medical industry, but the stark reality is that we simply cannot! In spite of the "Marcus Welby, M.D." and "House" representations where doctors bend over backwards and take enormous personal risks to give good care for the benefit of the patient (and not the benefit of their wallets, other transplant patients or the hospital budget), all those who work in "medicine," as with every industry, have good and bad actors. When money is connected with an outcome, many fall into temptation. A strong advocate is all the more necessary because a "simple" surgery or a "short" hospital treatment can sometimes turn into a disaster. Never take for granted that the medical team, or select medical individuals who make critical decisions on your behalf are looking toward only your best interest and to preserve your life.
Are you a cynical person who believes "If three doctors all say a person is 'dead,' she must be dead because most doctors can be trusted"?
There are over a million babies who die quite definitively each year while under the control of a "trusted physician-surgeon." The moment of death comes as their bodies are pulled apart, cut to pieces, or violated with surgical instruments to the heart or brain, and not because of the child's own failure to be alive and growing. Surgical abortionists kill between 1.1 to 1.4 million Unborn babies each year in the U.S. for their own personal profit, and that of the co-conspiring mother and other entities involved. Another untold million or more are killed through abortifacient drugs.
With so many doctors and other medical personnel willing to justify active killing for financial gain in just one class of persons (the Unborn), why do you think all the doctors who treat you over the years can be trusted to do all they can to spare your life?
I do not know enough about Jahi's personal medical situation, but I know enough to be cynical towards an over-abundance of blind trust in people who are called "experts" only by virtue of a degree and without any resort to character or personal values which always have a play-out in "professional ethics," and their financial integrity.
Jahi's parents are in a position that most of us never want to experience, though some have. We must continue to pray with them that GOD override all motivations to this child's harm. I pray she recovers or that GOD gives these parents the supernatural ability to allow Him to take her home according to His clock. The most unnatural thing for any parent is to cheaply value a child and discard them easily. Yet in this age, we see parents do that every day. Let's affirm the love Jahi's parents are demonstrating in demanding every proof of death possible for the eternal gift GOD has given them in a child. All else they invest in will one day burn, but if they are faithful, they have the hope that GOD will use them to compel their children to salvation in Jesus Christ.
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And here’s a continuation of the “back and
forth” between Cal and me that started in the January issue when Cal said
Catholics should change the way they baptize:
Cal -- If you say the Petri dish is a
womb, such that the child cannot be baptized there, then what about other
incubators for premature infants? Aren't those wombs too under your definition?
You know priests will baptize the child in incubators later in life. So why not
earlier in life in the Petri dish?
me – I’ve
never read anything the Church said about this, so I’ll just use common sense,
and she, the Queen of common sense, will
have said the same thing.
Yup, incubators are wombs. And I bet priests do baptize there. However, they will not do it if the child
will be endangered, and he will have to have grown fairly large to avoid that danger,
a lot larger than he is in the dish.
Cal -- I
found the article. It says this: "Explaining to the Pope that she feared
no priest would baptize her illegitimate child, the Pope told her that if she
had any trouble he would personally hold the baptism." The woman said that
the Pope told her on the phone, "I am convinced that you will not have
trouble finding a spiritual father, but if not, know that there is always
me."
http://www.lifenews.com/2013/09/06/pope-pledges-to-baptize-mothers-baby-after-she-rejects-abortion/
me –
Yup, just as I thought.
Cal --
Even in dens of iniquity, shouldn't a spiritual father go and bless children?
So why should parents have trouble finding a priest to come in person and bless
their baby just because the baby is in a den of iniquity and they disobeyed the
Church by conceiving the child outside proper moral boundaries?
me – As I
say, he can bless her there. The reason
he cannot baptize her there is that the oil would never get to the forehead! Hell, he couldn’t even recognize the
forehead!
Cal -- I
think you meant to say "favorite writer of Catholic exposés," not
critic. I also think you implied I am making an "attack" on the
Church, when it is an exposé, not an attack.
me – Well, no, again. Actually I was going to identify you as my favorite anti-Catholic because all
smart people who are not Catholic are anti-Catholic. But I decided not to because “anti-Catholic”
has baggage. Besides, I liked the
alliteration – Catholic critic Cal.
Cal -- You are making up your own sacrament
here. No oil is required for baptism. Oil is an added gesture to emphasize the
dignity of the occasion.
me -- My mistake. Yeah, water on the head. But even more – how can you pour water on
someone’s head if he’s living in liquid and you can hardly see him?
Cal -- St. Thomas Aquinas explains that the
water need not be chemically pure, but only that it retain its solvent
properties to perform a washing, unlike wet mud. For example, lake or river
water is acceptable, which is the natural equivalent of the water in a fish
bowl, which is the analog of the water in a Petri dish used by in vitro
fertilization programs to incubate human embryo babies.
me -- So far, so good.
Cal -- So since the baby is already immersed
in water, all the celebrant has to do is say: "I baptize you in the name
of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit."
me -- No, that’s not the only thing he has to
do; he also has to pour water on the baby’s head.
Cal --
Immersion is the preferred form of baptism, according to St. Thomas
Aquinas, and one need not perform three immersions, since a single immersion
suffices. Also, it is not necessary when saying "you" to know
precisely how many individuals are being baptized, since group baptisms are
also validly conferred.
me – So far, so good.
Cal --
So what could be simpler? Just go to the Petri dish and say the words to
confer baptism on the children.
me -- See above.
Cal -- And as an added bonus, the babies will
not cry or wet the priest. So what kind of traditionalist tries to invent
sacramental red tape to avoid baptizing babies in danger of death just because
their parents disobeyed the Church and conceived the child outside of proper
moral boundaries?
me - What you call “sacramental red tape” we
Catholics call sacramentally essential.
Cal -- I think the point you and your fellow
traditionalists are missing is that the sacraments also require one other
element to be conferred: humility.
me -- That’s just name-calling, Cal.
If you
want to follow this argument further, or join it, go to stockpotato@yahoo.com or johndunk@ptd.net. As interesting as I find this topic, CIM is about
baby killing, not about the Church.
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Terry
Hughes was supposed to be in heaven at this stage of his existence, but no, he
only writes as if he were:
Dear
Cathy and others: The
Government has promoted three phony-science "scares" in my lifetime.
"Eugenics", The "Population Bomb", and "Catastrophic
Man-Caused Climate Warming", all based on racist ideology. Eugenics
was promoted to weed out "the unfit" and produce "a race of
Thoroughbreds" under the guidance of Margaret Sanger/Sangre, foundress of
Planned Parenthood. It resulted in sterilization laws and led to the atrocious
Buck v. Bell Supreme Court ruling that legalized castrating and spaying "
the feebleminded" by The Government, with The Government deciding who is
"feeble minded" (read "Black people"). The Population Bomb
was promoted by Paul Ehrlich using the absurd argument that humans could
actually out-produce the food supply, especially in the Third World, so The
Government in the "enlightened" First World had the "duty"
to castrate and spay Third World people because "those people" didn't
"know better" and reproduced like rabbits. Catastrophic Man-Caused
Climate Warming could be stopped only if The Government in the First World tied
foreign "aid" to reducing the Third World population, because
"responsible" First World people stopped having babies, while Third
World people were more than reproducing themselves and causing
"greenhouse" warming as a result (in fact, greenhouse warming would
be a boon for mankind, as it would greatly increase our food supply--plants
thrive on CO2--and create a booming commerce worldwide).
All three of these programs by The Government
in the First World are racist. In America, eugenics was promoted by The
Government "to exterminate the Negro population" (Margaret
Sanger/Sangre's words), The Government uses foreign "aid" to prevent
the Population Bomb from exploding in the non-White Third World, and The
Government funds castrating, spaying, and aborting the Third World to
"Save The Planet" from "man-caused global warming" (so
White people, even without babies, can still steal Third World resources and
White "elites" can maintain White Supremacy worldwide).
Now The Government is using O'Buma(s)care to
abort Black babies in America and deny health care for unaborted Black babies.
O'Buma(s)care was sold to Americans with The Big Lie it would extend health
care to uninsured poor (read "Black") people, just as Planned
Parenthood calls aborting Black babies "health care" (four of five
Planned Parenthood Abortion Auschwitzes are in Black--and increasingly in Hispanic--neighborhoods,
all lavishly funded by The Government).
The Government is the vehicle used by White
Liberal Progressives (Democrats AND Republicans--Nixon/Kissinger made
castrating and spaying the Third World the cornerstone of US foreign policy, with
the goal of reducing non-White populations so White "elites" could
steal Third World natural resources). They have embraced the Darwinian view
that Black people in particular are less-than-human and must be caged in prison
plantations run by The Government (a "solution" Sanger/Sanger
promoted). The goal is to reduce their numbers and keep them in thralldom to
their White Liberal Progressive "betters". Exhibit A in this
enterprise is Barack O'Buma, who has enthusiastically doubled funding Planned
Parenthood to over a half-billion dollars annually, uses the IRS to persecute
pro-life activists, and conducts a worldwide war on Christians because
they adhere to the belief that all of us are created in the image and likeness
of God with Heaven as our destiny, not Darwinian worm food. White Liberal
Progressives are desperate to force-feed their racist agenda now because they
have their "House Nigger" in the White House.
Why has O'Buma been so easily seduced by
these White Liberal Progressive racists? Because his will to power has trumped
his intellect, an easy conquest in his case because, as White Liberal
Progressives "know", O'Buma's White half agrees with them and his
Black half is too stupid to see how he has been groomed and controlled to embrace
and promote their racist goals. Proof? By believing their lies, O'Buma now
believes his own lies--lies are now his very essence. He eagerly presides over
murdering his own people. Murder is serious business. It leads to lying (read
Genesis 3), and lying facilitates more murder. What is the bottom line?
The Government is The Enemy Of The People.
The
same people who push the three phony-science “scares” above pushed evolution
even more vigorously. And racist it certainly was, with the “white man” the
most evolved. And it’s still around:
Letter writer John Dunkle's claim that evolution is
nonsense is not true ("Letter was nonsense," Reading Eagle, Dec. 24).
The ironclad, irrefutable proof of evolution is that the plants and animals of today do not appear in the fossil record because they had not evolved at that time.
Plants and animals that appear in the fossil record are not around today because they became extinct as more-advanced life forms evolved. Roughly 99 percent of all species that ever existed became extinct as evolution proceeded.
The fossil record clearly shows that mammals appeared about 100 million years later than reptiles, which appeared about 100 million years later than amphibians, which appeared about 100 million years later than fish, which appeared about 100 million years later than worms, which appeared about 3 billion years later than single-cell organisms.
It took 3 billion years for multicellular organisms to evolve from single-cell organisms.
Evolution continues today and is responsible for creating new flu viruses and causing bacteria to become resistant to antibiotics. Evolution is driven by genetic mutations, the same process that causes cancer. Hal Brossman
The ironclad, irrefutable proof of evolution is that the plants and animals of today do not appear in the fossil record because they had not evolved at that time.
Plants and animals that appear in the fossil record are not around today because they became extinct as more-advanced life forms evolved. Roughly 99 percent of all species that ever existed became extinct as evolution proceeded.
The fossil record clearly shows that mammals appeared about 100 million years later than reptiles, which appeared about 100 million years later than amphibians, which appeared about 100 million years later than fish, which appeared about 100 million years later than worms, which appeared about 3 billion years later than single-cell organisms.
It took 3 billion years for multicellular organisms to evolve from single-cell organisms.
Evolution continues today and is responsible for creating new flu viruses and causing bacteria to become resistant to antibiotics. Evolution is driven by genetic mutations, the same process that causes cancer. Hal Brossman
Mr. Brossman calls
change evolution because the latter implies we are getting better and better. We all begin our lives as single-cell
organisms, and we are as God-like then as the multicellular beings we become
later.
Moreover, a hyena
is not innately superior to the Great White Shark.
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Dear friends of the unborn,
On January 29th at 9 a.m.
central time, Scott Roeder's court appointed attorney, Rachel Pickering, will
present oral arguments for direct appeal. Anyone will be able to watch the oral
arguments at kscourts.org.(all lower case).
Please WATCH AND PRAY as
the LORD commands us to do in these last days.
I know Scott. He is a very
tenderhearted man of God who prayed for George Tiller's salvation (Pastor Straw
of Wichita had also witnessed to Tiller and told him of the folly of
his ways often, gently, and boldly before his death). Scott
visited Tiller's Pastor and begged him to tell this killer of kids to stop
or face excommunication; prayed for the just punishment of this dedicated child
predator by the government, considered the maiming of him rather than killing,
all to no avail. He ran from his calling as Jonah did, but could not stop the
nightmares of babies crying and being cut apart that he suffered every night
(the nightmares did stop after he stopped Tiller). He absolutely took
the last resort in shooting Tiller in a "church". The pastor, who
supported child murder and homosexual rights, appointed Tiller as an usher and
his wife as head of the choir and ignored the clear warning of scripture.
Scott shot Tiller on Pentecost Sunday, May 31, 2009 -- the only move of the
Spirit that "church" had ever seen. That year the
Guttmacher institute of Planned Parenthood reported that late
term abortions in Kansas were down by half -- could it be that Tiller was
doing all late term abortions in Kansas? You do the math -- the next year and
until now, NO late term abortions were perpetrated in Kansas. Logic tells
you that up until this time Scott's action has prevented the painful death of
12,000 babies and saved the families of these precious kids from blood guilt (from
24,000 if only the father & mother were involved to 48,000 if the
grandparents were involved and 96,000 if both sets of grandparents were
involved --God forbid). Scott Roeder, like Phineas, held back the plague that
America so richly deserves for shedding innocent blood. He is a hero of the
faith and like all heroes of Hebrew's chapter 11 is a flawed man who simply
obeyed the LORD. Please do your part and watch this court proceeding. Until
that day, pray for supernatural wisdom for Rachel Pickering, confusion in the
prosecutors camp, and that the judges will judge righteous judgment. That is
the MOST we can do now. Mark your calendars for Jan. 29th at 9 a.m. central
time. Watch and pray.
It may interest you to
know that the day Scott was found guilty was January 22, 2010, the
37th anniversary of Roe V. Wade. The
jury took 37 minutes to find him guilty. Woe to them that call good evil and
evil good.
Yours, Regina Dinwiddie
Rev. Michael Bray comments:
If there are prophets or prophetesses walking
around today, Regina is such a one. At the least, she has exhibited that
gift many times in the years I have known her and her excellent husband,
Michael.
Regina requests our prayers/action in the
next three weeks as we approach legal proceedings regarding child rescuer
(abortionist terminator), Scott Roeder.
So does Cathy Ramey:
Scott
Roeder, from the perspective of one of
God's prophetesses.
Regina is an upright and godly woman whose testimony ratifies my own,
but from a very personal perspective. She knows Scott and has visited him many
times in the prison he is kept in.
My only addendum to what Regina says is that we all know these murders are taking place (Deuteronomy 21:7 .... and they shall answer and say, 'Our hands did not shed this blood, nor did our eyes see it. ")
These forms of murdering the innocent are reported in the news, advertised everywhere, yet we do not all do what we can to stop them.
Our hands are covered with blood! Our own bloodguilt for this terrible holocaust is already as high as the heavens.
God has heard these infants cry from the garbage cans, dumpsters and bladed waste disposal systems; the incinerators where there bodies have been burned (including the one Tiller owned and operated), the "tissue labs" and "research centers." Stand for GOD'S Law wherever He has positioned you!
This nation has been found guilty before GOD and is, even now, in the beginnings of HIS just judgment.
Come out of her; repent and defy her sins; protect the weak and helpless!!!
Perhaps GOD will have reason to spread HIS mercy and compassion over HIS own during these terrible coming days.
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My only addendum to what Regina says is that we all know these murders are taking place (Deuteronomy 21:7 .... and they shall answer and say, 'Our hands did not shed this blood, nor did our eyes see it. ")
These forms of murdering the innocent are reported in the news, advertised everywhere, yet we do not all do what we can to stop them.
Our hands are covered with blood! Our own bloodguilt for this terrible holocaust is already as high as the heavens.
God has heard these infants cry from the garbage cans, dumpsters and bladed waste disposal systems; the incinerators where there bodies have been burned (including the one Tiller owned and operated), the "tissue labs" and "research centers." Stand for GOD'S Law wherever He has positioned you!
This nation has been found guilty before GOD and is, even now, in the beginnings of HIS just judgment.
Come out of her; repent and defy her sins; protect the weak and helpless!!!
Perhaps GOD will have reason to spread HIS mercy and compassion over HIS own during these terrible coming days.
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In the
November newsletter I told you that former Prisoner For Christ Robert Weiler
had just visited. This arrived today:
Robert,
Hello Mr. Dunkle! This is
Robert Weiler. Sorry I waited so long after our visit in November to write to
you. As I am sure you can imagine, I have been extremely busy with work,
demonstrations, and of course keeping my beautiful wife happy.
I want all the PFC's to know I am doing well, off of probation, and in the thick of the battle so to speak. I welcome any correspondence from them now that I am free of restrictions on with whom I may associate. They may write to me at 3203 Maygreen Ave., Forestville, MD 20747
I have started a website. It is still under construction. The URL address is www.executeabortionists.com . My email is robertw@executeabortionists.com . I would like to include, with the permission of the authors of course (please let me know at the mailing address above), the writings of several of the PFC's that have been previously published in SKYP/AIM or on Rev. Spitz's website. Also if any of the PFC's wish to send me new material I will of course publish it on the site.
Once again thank you for your hospitality in November. I enjoyed our talk, demonstrations (you didn't mention in your last issue that we went picketing together), and the restaurant we visited while I was in Reading. Unfortunately, my schedule has not allowed me to visit the other people I had planned to as of yet. However, I will be calling them to set something up soon. Probably Rev. Spitz first because of his geographical convenience. I will try to visit the Holmans and Mike Bray in the spring when I go to visit my grandmother in Illinois.
I hope this e-mail finds you well and in good health. I look forward to hearing from you and others soon. >
I want all the PFC's to know I am doing well, off of probation, and in the thick of the battle so to speak. I welcome any correspondence from them now that I am free of restrictions on with whom I may associate. They may write to me at 3203 Maygreen Ave., Forestville, MD 20747
I have started a website. It is still under construction. The URL address is www.executeabortionists.com . My email is robertw@executeabortionists.com . I would like to include, with the permission of the authors of course (please let me know at the mailing address above), the writings of several of the PFC's that have been previously published in SKYP/AIM or on Rev. Spitz's website. Also if any of the PFC's wish to send me new material I will of course publish it on the site.
Once again thank you for your hospitality in November. I enjoyed our talk, demonstrations (you didn't mention in your last issue that we went picketing together), and the restaurant we visited while I was in Reading. Unfortunately, my schedule has not allowed me to visit the other people I had planned to as of yet. However, I will be calling them to set something up soon. Probably Rev. Spitz first because of his geographical convenience. I will try to visit the Holmans and Mike Bray in the spring when I go to visit my grandmother in Illinois.
I hope this e-mail finds you well and in good health. I look forward to hearing from you and others soon. >
me, Boy, am I happy to hear from you. I had
forgotten to write down a contact during your visit. You’ll get all of my
newsletters from now on and I’m including November below. You can get
other back issues on the website, skyp1.blogspot.com. I kind of implied we went picketing when I
said your way of doing that makes you as valuable outside prison as inside. Oh,
and feel free to use anything I post any way you want.
Robert, Thank you for the newsletter. I look forward
to the future issues. Also, I believe I will be off from work Tuesday, January
21, and will possibly be up your way to visit my friend in Ephrata. I remember
you telling me that Tuesdays are the killing days at your local mill. If I am
able, would you like me to come up and join you that morning?
me, That would be great,
Robert. I usually arrive there at 7 and stay, off and on, till around 10,
but I’m flexible. Earlier and later is fine with me. I’d like to take you
back to Judy’s again for lunch.
Warning – I’m an enemy with one of the regulars there,
Kathy Kuhns. I think she’s an undercover
agent for the baby-killing industry, but she just might be one of those
“peaceful, prayerful, loving” types who, ironically, hate those like you who’ve
used force and those like me who defend that.
I’ll send this to her,
too, and we’ll see what happens.
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I did
not know either:
David Trosch passed to the other side in
2012, I did not know. He, Mike Bray and I [Rev.
Donald Spitz] attended Paul Hill’s trials together and he is the one that
first put me in the ring around the collar, since he and Mike were banned from
the courtroom by the apostate Justice Department. The RCC sent him to some
remote parish to shut him up about Justifiable Homicide of babykilling
abortionists.
The RCC
dignitary who remoted Fr. Trosch is “Lips”:
Retired Roman
Catholic Archbishop Oscar Lipscomb remembered today the priest he suspended
more than 19 years ago as someone who "died in God's grace" and who
"was not a bad person."
Lipscomb, 81, said the late Rev.
David Trosch,
who died Friday at the Allen Memorial Home in Mobile following a long illness,
was an "ill-informed person" whose "ideas were his own."
"The last years he was very quiet,"
Lipscomb said about Trosch, who gained notoriety in 1993, for saying that
killing an abortion doctor is justifiable homicide.
"The record speaks for itself,"
Lipscomb said about the priest he relieved in August 1993. . . "I did not
censor him. He could say Mass but he could not act in a pastoral
capacity," Lipscomb added. "He had no public persona in the
church."
Trosch's controversial opinions, while not
shared by his peers, generated a lot of negative publicity . .
Trosch was buried Wednesday in Catholic
Cemetery of Mobile and Lipscomb said there were "30 to 40
people" in attendance.
"He, obviously in my opinion [sic], died in good faith," Lipscomb
said. "He died as a priest."
No, Fr.
Trosch’s ideas were not his own. It’s
the Church that teaches that someone is murdered in an abortion and justifiable
homicide is moral.
What she says is immoral is the pernicious idea
espoused by folks “Lips” cottons up to:
An obscure ending for a notorious priest
How easily the mighty – or, in this case, the
mighty notorious – can fall into obscurity.
Two decades ago, the Rev. David Trosch made
headlines around the country for calling the murder of abortion doctors
“justifiable homicide.” CNN, CBS and dozens of syndicated radio programs sought
interviews with him from the rectory of his rural Magnolia Springs parish.
A week ago, Trosch made no headlines when he
died in a nursing home in Mobile. A brief obituary cited his service as a
priest in the Catholic Archdiocese of Mobile, listed his survivors and the
particulars of his funeral, and made one understated reference to his
notoriety: “Throughout his life, he championed the cause to put an end to
abortion.”
It did not mention that he had been stripped
of his public ministry, or that for years afterward he maintained a website
whose grisly pages dripped with animated droplets of blood as he condemned
sinners – by name -- to hell.
I was among those listed as hell-bound
(apparently for mentioning in a column that I and many other American Catholics
disagree with the Vatican’s stance on birth control), as was the archbishop who
muzzled him in the mid-1990s.
I figure everybody’s entitled to his opinion
on who will and won’t make the cut in the hereafter, so I did not begrudge
David Trosch his condemnation of me. Indeed, at a church reception several
years ago, I suggested to the now-retired archbishop that we should secure
commitments from a couple of other sinners so we could be assured of having a
foursome later for a fiery game of bridge or poker.
Those of us who believe in a divine creator
believe accordingly that Trosch’s eternal fate now rests with an all-loving,
all-merciful God who knows each of us in ways that we cannot and do not know
one another.
His
legacy in the here-and-now is knowable, however -- and quite different than he
probably imagined 19 years ago when he attempted to place an ad in the
Press-Register showing a doctor about to perform an abortion, and a man with a
gun about to shoot the doctor. Two words accompanied the drawing – “Justifiable
Homicide'' -- followed by a large question mark.
Though the newspaper rejected the ad, Trosch
nevertheless hoped to spark a much stronger anti-abortion movement in which
Americans would view the practice as murder and abortion doctors would be tried
and executed. Short of that, he told a reporter, it would be understandable if
some people took matters into their own hands in order to protect unborn
children. (“If 100 doctors need to die to save over 1 million babies a year,”
he said, “I see it as a fair trade.”)
Instead, his actions sparked outrage from
fellow Catholics and from members of other denominations and faith groups who
saw his views as anti-Catholic, anti-Christian and, indeed, anti-life.
Rather than prompt pro-lifers to embrace and
adopt his position, Trosch’s stance prompted most of them to roundly condemn it
as unacceptable and ungodly.
In
fact, the priest who viewed abortion as an extreme act inadvertently managed to
remind his fellow believers that extremism has many faces and can even wear a
clerical collar.
I only met David Trosch once, in 1993 when I
was among reporters covering the fallout from his controversial statement. He
was pleasant, forthcoming and helpful.
But he was wrong – oh, so wrong—and deserved
every bit of the obscurity into which he was relegated.
Ah yes,
obscurity is the only hell. The
hypocrite, Frances Coleman who wrote the above, belongs to a Church whose
teaching she attacks. Hell, for her, is
playing cards with her famous buddies, tee-hee.
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Buttercup’s Her Way
And
now the end is near
One
thing we can be certain
As
americe awaits the final curtain
She
did it her way
For
what is a nation
What
has it got
Without
obedience to the Lord it will rot
Pestilence,
sword, famine & more
Greetings
from the Lord are in store
As
america does it her way Tobra
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