Abortion is Murder

Abortion is Murder, 9/14, February 3

2012-01-20T03:03:00.000-08:00

Formerly Stop the Killing of Young People (skyp) and soon, perhaps, Stop Killing Preemies

February 3, 2012 Vol. 9 No. 14
PO Box 7424, Reading, PA 19603
Phone – 484-706-4375
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John Dunkle, Editor

Abortion is Murder, a weak, pathetic response to baby murder, is sent out at least once a month. If the gestapo hasn’t jailed you for defending the innocent realistically, you either have to tell me you want it or go to the website. Faxes and emails are free but snail-mail is free only for PFCs, $100 for others.
Because I believe we should examine every legitimate means, including force, in our attempt to protect those being tortured to death, I want to hear from people who’ve been forceful and from those who defend them.. I’d also like to hear from those prolifers and pro-deathers who call force violence.

Prisoners for Christ:

1. Evans, Paul Ross 83230-180, USP McCreary, P.O. Box 3000, Pine Knot, KY 42635
2. Gibbons, Linda, Vanier WDC, 655 Martin St., P.O. Box 1040, Milton, ON, Canada L9T 5E6
3. Griffin, Michael 310249, 5914 Jeff Ates Rd., Milton, FL 32583-0000
4. Jordi, Stephen 70309-004, FCI P.O. Box 33, Terre Haute IN 47802 6/30
5. Knight, Peter James, P.O. Box 376, Laverton, Victoria, Australia
6. Kopp, James 11761-055, USP Canaan, P.O. Box 300, 3057 Easton Tpk., Waymart, PA 18472
7. Little, David SJRCC, 930 Old Black River Road, Saint John, NB E2J 4T3
8. Moose, Justin 27494-057 FCI Talladega, P.O. Box 1000, Talladega, AL 35160
9. Richardson, Alonzo Lee 12898-021, CCM, 716 McDonough Blvd. SE, Atlanta, GA 30315
10. Roeder, Scott P. 65192, PO Box 2, Lansing Kansas 66043
11. Rudolph, Eric 18282-058 US Pen. Max, Box 8500, Florence CO 81226-8500
12. Shannon, Rachelle 59755-065, FCI Waseca, Unit A, P.O. Box 1731, Waseca, MN 56093 3/31
13. Waagner, Clayton Lee 17258-039, United States Penitentiary, P.O. Box 1000, Lewisburg PA 17837

Even though it’s a shameful sin to abandon defenseless victims to their attackers, it’s a far worse sin when you attempt to pass the blame for that sin onto God by claiming that’s what he wanted you to do. And that’s precisely what so many people have done with their rejection of God’s clear and sensible instructions to defend the defenseless, and with their pretenses and fake excuses for rejecting those instructions. Pride is a terrible thing when it leads you to deny your own sin and instead say that God sinned. Peter James Knight
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I should complete “The New Abortion Providers” next issue. Here we find out where the money behind this new push to entrench baby killing for another forty years came from. And it came from, it come from . . . Warren Buffett, who is now resting in peace, or maybe not.

IN 1999, UTA LANDY, a former director of the National Abortion Federation, and Philip Darney, her husband and an OB-GYN professor at U.C.S.F., created the Kenneth J. Ryan Residency Training Program. The program gives medical schools two or three years of seed money for abortion training for OB-GYN residents. Through it, 58 campuses in the U.S. and Canada have received financing. Landy also directs the Family Planning Fellowship, with Jody Steinauer as the associate director.
When I e-mailed Landy in January to set up an interview, she wrote back that her policy is not to speak to the press. Steinauer explained that the organization fears that the publicity might scare away a university considering a Ryan or fellowship grant. Or it might spook the donor, other doctors told me.
The money for the Ryan and the Family Planning Fellowship comes from one foundation and from one family. The donor has chosen to remain anonymous, which helps to explain why there's been so little publicity about the pro-choice strategy of bringing abortion into academic medicine. It has been covered by a veil of semi secrecy.
At the same time, as the Ryan and the fellowship have expanded to dozens of institutions, many people have come to know about the source of funding. In the course of my reporting, two doctors who had not done the fellowship themselves, but who work in universities, volunteered to me that the money for the programs comes from the Buffett Foundation. They meant the Susan Thompson Buffett Foundation.
Susan Thompson Buffett was married to Warren Buffett and served as president of the foundation that bears her name. She died in 2004. Two years later, Warren Buffett gave the foundation about $3 billion. He said that he expected the gift to increase the foundation's annual expenditures by $150 million. And in fact, total giving by the foundation, where two of the Buffetts' children sit on the board, increased from $202 million in 2007 to $347 million in 2008, according to tax returns.
The tax records also show that most of the foundation's spending goes to abortion and contraception advocacy and research. According to Access Philanthropy, a research institute that focuses on the giving preferences of foundations and corporate donors, family planning is one of the Susan Thompson Buffett Foundation's main purposes. The foundation's nonprofit 990 tax form shows that in 2008, Planned Parenthood and its affiliates in the U.S. received about $45 million; the international arm of the organization got about $8 million. There is no line item for the Ryan program or the Family Planning Fellowship. But the foundation paid out around $50 million to universities with one or both of the programs.
Warren Buffett has never spoken publicly about his views on abortion. But in the 1990s, according to The Wall Street Journal, the Buffett Foundation helped finance the research and development of the pills that induce abortion. The foundation also helped finance a lawsuit to overturn the ban on so-called partial-birth abortion in Nebraska, Buffett's home state and the headquarters of his company, Berkshire Hathaway. (Susan Thompson Buffett moved from Omaha to San Francisco in 1977 but remained close to her husband. She took credit for introducing him to the woman he has lived with since 1978; the three sent out Christmas cards together.) In Thompson Buffett's only television interview, which was broadcast after her death, she told Charlie Rose: ''Warren feels that women all over the world get shortchanged. That's why he's so pro-choice.''
Buffett hasn't been a target of heated protest -- his plainspoken Midwestern persona and his enormous wealth may make him the wrong enemy for anti-abortion advocates. But in 2001, a right-wing activist named Thomas Strobhar showed up at Berkshire Hathaway's annual meeting with a shareholder resolution objecting to donations to Planned Parenthood, via a program that allowed shareholders to make gifts through the company to charitable organizations of their choice. Buffett ended the giving program two years later.
In 2006, Buffett announced his $3 billion gift to the foundation in a letter that's written in a kind of code. He and his late wife had established the foundation, he wrote, ''to focus intensely on important societal problems that had very limited funding constituencies.''
''You mean you didn't know Warren Buffett's foundation has been funding abortion-rights organizations?'' NPR reported at the time. ''Well, that's just the way the Buffetts wanted it.'' The Web sites for the Family Planning Fellowship and the Ryan program are also discreet. A private log-in is required to read more than basic information.
The foundation could have been straightforward about its work from the start. Instead, according to some doctors involved with the programs, a low profile eased the way for universities to sign on for the fellowship and the Ryan. Landy and others administrating the grant programs continue to express concerns about the implications of publicity (including this article). Buffett and Allen Greenberg, the director of the foundation, and Buffett's former son-in-law, declined to speak to me on the record.
And yet for all the anxiety about being in the spotlight, the surprising truth is that however embattled abortion remains in America at large, at the top of academic medicine, the structure built to support it looks secure. David Grimes, the researcher, is on the committee that chooses the Family Planning fellow at his university, and this year, he said, there were so many well-qualified candidates that they turned some down. Grimes surveys the terrain — the annual meetings with presentations of top-flight research, the schools where Medical Students for Choice and residency training and the Family Planning Fellowship are flourishing — and says with satisfaction: “A few things have happened to turn it all around. Thanks to the donor, I think it’s all here to stay.”
Medical schools that host the Ryan and the fellowship have, however, experienced the occasional protest. Last fall, an anti-abortion newsletter reported that the Family Planning Fellowship had come to Washington University in St. Louis. (In fact, the fellowship began there in 2007.) The author, Joe Ortwerth, posted the names and mailing addresses of key “decision makers,” including the chancellor and chairman of the board of Washington University. “You may wish to contact them to urge that they put an end to this shameful and insidious relationship with Planned Parenthood,” Ortwerth wrote. “Please pray for them as you send such messages that they will receive your communication with an open heart.” The newsletter later reported that the Family Planning Fellowship had posted on its Web site that Wash. U. was running the fellowship in collaboration with St. Louis University, a Catholic school.
In The St. Louis Post-Dispatch, St. Louis University denied any involvement. Washington University apologized for the mention of St. Louis University on the fellowship Web site. In a letter to the editor published in The Post-Dispatch, Ortwerth wrote, “It is shameful for Washington University to attempt to dignify the dirty business of abortion by awarding academic fellowships to future abortionists.”
The flap ended there, and Washington stuck with the fellowship. Still, such controversy isn’t welcome at most universities. (tbc)
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Stephen Jordi is due for release soon. He’ll be looking for work:

Hello...How are ya? Well...there's a verse that goes...If a man would not work, neither should he eat. I like to eat...a lot...therefore, If A=B, and B=C then C=A !
I'm going to be looking for work shortly, and wonder if anyone knows how I might get some, or 'extra' work ( work at home?) doing 'Patents '. In USP McQueary, Kentucky I used to do high-level patents, and was good at it. All the different departments used to fight over me to work for them. There was lots of extra overtime as I could work any or all the different aspects entailed in the work.
Anyway, is there a company out there that would hire me to do the same? I'm sure there is but I don't know the details...would there be a brick-and-mortar business or would they just send the patent paper files for me to correct and file electronically?
In related work there are medical forms that now get electronically formatted -- but I know little more then that this exists. I'm interested in any type of work ideas you might submit, but especially curious about the stay-at-home variety if it exists...tax preparation?
I'm groping for ideas now...I'm sure the patent idea would involve a refresher course and probably pay-per-page depending on the difficulty of the materials...but I'm guessing here. So, any ideas would be wonderfully received!
God bless ya! Stephen

Can any of you help Stephen?
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Jen Boulanger owns and runs the Allentown Women’s Center where young folks get pulled apart. Recently she placed this ad in the local paper:

Allentown Women's Center is looking for females or males in PA who are willing to share their personal abortion stories. AWC is working with the Women's Law Project and clergy members to educate PA lawmakers about what abortion is really like. Can you help? Call AWC Executive Director Jen Boulanger at 610-770-9077 ext. 11 or email her at jen@allentownwomenscenter.com. Share with friends too!

I answered the ad:

Hi Jen, a little girl and a little boy asked me to help them “share their personal abortion stories”:

Little Girl, Jen, I heard grinding, and I felt cold. My warm world left. I was exposed like outside naked in January. I couldn't breathe. The horrible wind pulled off my left arm. The horrible, horrible pain, oh, Jen, Jen. Then it pulled off my right arm and my legs, my legs. Jen, Jen, did you have anything to do with this?

Little Boy, Jen, I was living warm and happily when I heard this grinding sound. Then I felt a rush of cold air. Louder and louder and then the horrible wind tore off my left arm. Oh the pain, Jen, the pain. Then my right arm. That's all I remember. Later I learned that my legs got torn off too. Jen, did you have anything to do with this?
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The section of the Pat Richards’ essay from “abortion.ws” I am posting this issue is not typical. Pat is usually the calmest and most level-headed killers’ helper I’ve ever listened to. But here is his reaction to the recent burning down of the Pensacola baby killing mill:

What I can’t fathom, and what has bothered me for years, is do these idiots really think they are “saving babies?” Is it really abortion that they are targeting? Or are they just losers looking to get their names in the papers? I ask because, if they gave it any thought (which may be stretching it for them), they would realize that bombing an abortion clinic or killing an abortion doctor does not “save babies.” Sure that particular clinic may now be closed for a while but, guess what, those women who might have gone to that center will simply make an appointment at the OTHER center a few miles away. And if they blow that one up, the women will then travel over to Mobile and get an abortion.
The disappearance of an abortion facility does not stop abortion, it does not “save babies.” If these domestic terrorists say that’s why they did it, they’re full of it. They are just miscreants who are either totally delusional about how things work (a good possibility) or they are just looking to make a name for themselves within the anti-abortion movement. It’s all so sick.

Ninety-seven percent of us prolifers would have written that, if we were capable of writing that well. And it’s why for forty years we have been getting crushed in this war! We listen to what the enemy hates most about what we do, and we agree with him. The way to lose a war --- find out what your enemy hates and fears most, and do everything you can to make sure that nothing like it ever happens.
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After my son-in-law, Pat used to be my favorite killers’ helper. Now Todd Stave is. Todd hooked me up with hundreds of live ones. Most of them are killers’ helpers too, but that’s OK with me -- anything but the zombies who make up 98% of our population and who have no more interest in baby killing than in Beowulf. This exchange, initiated by Jeffrey Michael Gordon, between Scott Evans and Colin Flagstaff, live ones all, is typical:

John, I read your newsletter. Wow...you are batshit crazy. You should get a job instead of worrying what people do with their lives. It's kind of embarrassing. Don't worry though....I'll pray for you, Jeffrey

Hey Jeffrey, According to you, John shouldn't worry about what people do with their lives, so why are you worried about what John is doing with his life? That makes you a hypocrite. But then again, liberal pro-aborts wear hypocrisy as a badge of honor, don't they, Jeffrey. Scott

Actually Scott you are the hypocrite. You see, Scott, you are merely a cog in the right wing machine that needs to divide this country so that they can steal everything in sight, greed, gluttony, lust (for money), acedia, wrath (their tool and your main vice), pride, envy, vainglory all wrapped up in a right wing package. What ever became of, patience, kindness, humility, temperance and charity, so you see you really are the hypocrite; but of course you have no ears. As long as we are fighting each other we never notice the mayhem and so you are not fighting for god, you are fighting on the other side, but of course you have no sight and no grace and no humility, just like the one that you say fell from heaven.
I wrote this last month but it is time it is time to send it again.
Have you seen a child torn apart by a land mine or a left over cluster bomb. Are you standing outside of Raytheon or General Dynamics protesting? Do you protest outside of arms factories whose weapons destroy nations, families, children, lives? Have you seen children dying slowly of starvation while poor nations buy weapons with precious funds, US companies with the help of government contracts and treaties being the largest arms dealers in the world. Across the world 3 billion people go hungry every day while commodity traders on Wall Street, Hong Kong and London drive up prices of food stuffs to make an arbitrage profit for super-rich clients who don't even need the money. 1% of the world's population owns 87% of the world's assets. And this economic elite use wedge groups such as anti-abortion radicals to keep the world in confusion, people fighting each other, rather than working together to make the world a better place. These groups are being used by evil elements to create dissension so that they can go on with their elite agenda which creates suffering. Still seems topical. Colin

Colin, You wrote, "Actually Scott you are the hypocrite. You see, Scott, you are merely a cog in the right wing machine that needs to divide this country so that they can steal everything in sight, greed, gluttony, lust (for money), acedia, wrath (their tool and your main vice), pride, envy, vainglory all wrapped up in a right wing package."
Oh, so that's why I'm so fabulously wealthy. :sarcasm:
Hey, I'm only one person. I can't protest everywhere. Can you?
So let me ask you this simple question, Colin. Is it always wrong to intentionally kill a baby? Please don't expound unless you precede your explanation by answering "Yes" or "No" first.

Scott, you are about absolutes and having solid answers, you seem to fear the mystery that is creation. People who are about absolutes are not concerned with other people, they are only concerned with themselves, that is implied. So as much as you say you are doing this for Jesus or God, you are really doing it for yourself. You are doing it to imbue yourself with the power that you need to survive in a mysterious world. You are in this respect much like the Satan myth in your book. You do not trust your God so you fall to earth and try to do what you believe God should do.
This is what you wrote: So let me ask you this simple question, Colin. Is it always wrong to intentionally kill a baby? Please don't expound unless you precede your explanation by answering "Yes" or "No" first.
I am not allowed to 'expound' and I must answer the question in the format you provide. To suit your agenda! Who are you? What authority do you come with that you believe you can tell those you interact with, how they must respond. It must feel good to believe you are that holy. 'They have made themselves into Gods.'
If you could understand the long term damage your type of irrationality does to the religion that you say you love, you would desist.
Answer: no it is not always wrong to kill a baby, there are circumstances where the health of the mother predominates.
You are possessed and it makes me wonder why and what power is advantaged by your slavery. You are living in a never ending hell. I am living in a garden, a world flawed but tolerable.

Colin, I'm about absolutes because God is about absolutes. Creation is not a mystery except for the fact I don't know how God did it, but I know He did, and when He said, "Thou shall not murder," he meant it.
So who are you to get your feathers so ruffled over a simple request? When someone answers "Yes" or "No" before explaining his answer, it helps to clarify where he is coming from. So thank you for doing so.
You answered, "no it is not always wrong to kill a baby, there are circumstances where the health of the mother predominates." I actually said to "intentionally" kill a baby, but at any rate, here is my reply:
Are you talking about the mother's mental health? Babies are actually murdered for that reason sometimes. If you meant the mother's physical health, please look up Denver Bronco quarterback Tim Tebow's story. By your standards, he would have been killed in his mother's womb. There are millions of children who have been murdered under the guise of the health of the mother. The fact is, doctors are wrong all the time about the health of the mother and the health of the preborn baby.
When there is a difficult pregnancy, neither the mother nor the baby should be targeted for death. The doctor finds himself with two patients and he or she should do everything she can to save both. If it comes to the critical juncture that the mother will die unless something is done, then the baby should be delivered and if the baby dies, then it's a tragedy that couldn't be avoided. But the baby should never be intentionally killed.
So the fact remains, they are babies and it's always wrong to intentionally kill a baby.
By the way, Colin, your personal attacks targeted at me are a complete waste of your time. I couldn't care less what your opinion of me is. Believe it or not, I don't live for Colin, I live for the Creator who saved me from my sins.

Scott, It was not a request, it was a command. You demand that the argument is on your terms. This is a well known debate tactic in which you set up the debate so that all answers fit your pre-designed answers based not on reflection but on your insistence that you are right and everyone else is wrong. So what's the need for God if there is Scott and Scott is never wrong People who live by absolutes do it so that they can rule over other people. They say they believe in God but they actually want to be God. They say it is 'revealed' to them in books and then they shoot doctors, fly planes into buildings, and lock people up in concentration camps, all the while explaining that they are fulfilling God's will. They attack people all day long but when someone shows the logical inconsistencies in their position suddenly they are the victims. The main problem with your conceptual view of how people should live is -- people. People end up getting in the way of the authoritarian, absolutist, dogmas and so as the story plays out, people must be destroyed; an example is Revelation, the natural outcome of the turning from the peaceful teachings of Jesus to the power politics of Paul.
This is not pro-life, this is pro-Scott. We know where this leads and that is one of the reasons we push back on anti-abortion groups and are pro-choice. Once you take control over a woman's body, you will feel empowered to take control over the life of all people. Since the Enlightenment, we understand that absolutes are code for authoritarianism seeking their own power. That is; Satan.
If you could understand that your use of religion in your desire to build up you self esteem, by feeding into your need of certainty demeans religion and turns people away from faith. If there were a god, I am sure that this god would not be happy about you ignoring the graceful workings of the creation and exploiting the divisions between people for your own aggrandizement.
'They have made themselves into Gods'

Colin, It was a command? Under the threat of what, exactly? 50 lashes with a wet noodle? What's wrong with requesting a yes or no answer before elaborating? And what's wrong with giving a yes or no answer before elaborating? You're sure in a tizzy over something so minor.
You said, "People who live by absolutes do it so that they can rule over other people." Colin, is that absolutely true? If so, then you live by absolutes as well. If not, then it's just your personal opinion and may not be true.
They say it is 'revealed' to them in books. Which books? If they say the Bible, then they don't know the Bible. So no one should read anything in case they interpret what they read incorrectly? No one who has murdered a doctor, flown planes into buildings, or locked people up in concentration camps has fulfilled God's will. No one who harms the innocent fulfills God's will. And people who read we evolved from nothing and there is nothing after death are affected by what they read as well, as evidenced by the epidemic of murder suicides our world is experiencing. They are actually correctly interpreting what they read, even though what they are reading are all lies. Ideas have consequences.
If there is no foundation how we as human beings are to live, then everyone does what is right in his own eyes such as making up the lie that a woman has control over her own body. So what about the separate body within her body with the 46 separate chromosomes and the separate DNA and often the different sex? That's not her body, it's her baby's body. A helpless, innocent body with a soul and a spirit who doesn't deserve to be murdered any more than the mother does.
So let me ask you this question, Colin: Is it absolutely wrong for a man to rape a woman (tbc)
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Here’s a continuation of the Paul Ross Evans drama. Paul is at work just after the bomb was discovered that he’d planted to destroy the baby killing mill.

Just when I began to semi-relax I located a local Austin news webpage where the story was beginning to break. A worker at the abortion clinic had somehow stumbled upon the package on her way into work that afternoon around lunch. Emergency crews responded to the scene in full force after protocol was followed and all of the government agencies in charge of such situations were alerted. As I had personally witnessed, the scene outside of the clinic was complete mayhem, and many other local news stations were getting wind of the breaking story. The bomb squad was on the scene at the moment deploying a robot to inspect the package which appeared to have protruding wires and pipes. A section of Highway 35 had now been shut down. I alerted my co-workers and the few customers who were in the shop then of what I had discovered on the internet. I was totally and completely nervous all over again, and as I got up to go smoke a cigarette and collect my nerves, I noticed a customer say "It always seems to happen somewhere else, somewhere far off, something like this." As I walked outside I do remember it was an extremely windy moment out in front of the tattoo shop as I attempted to light my cigarette.
Sooner or later my favorite co-worker joined me outside of the shop, and she had a look of confusion. I almost told her right there that I was the one responsible for placing the bomb outside of the abortion clinic, and I intended to never go back to prison ever again. I had confided in her many times concerning terrible situations I had encountered as a young man incarcerated in the Texas Department of Corrections, and I felt as if she was the only person who knew that I was really struggling to make a new life for myself in Austin, besides my family. We talked, and she smoked with me, and I soon departed to go back inside and research the internet webpages once more for any further media coverage. At this stage, the story had broken through to all Austin-based News stations and their websites, as well as all other Texas news pages. I sat at the computer in a total daze and witnessed with my own eyes the story reach Google, Yahoo, MSN, CNN, FOX, NBC, and CBS, as well as appearing (AP news) on the Post and the Times webpages. Later it made International news on that first day, and I watched it with a complete sense of surprise. I walked down the street to a Pizza Restraint and picked up a vegan pizza for my co-worker Jill. As I strolled along the sidewalk along South Congress Avenue I searched every stranger’s eyes with the suspicion of them working for the Federal government. When I returned with the pizza I called my wife at our apartment. She asked me if there was a possibility of leaving work early as she really missed me after our wonderful day hiking outdoors. I told her that I was already planning to leave early, as the tattoo shop was surprisingly slow. I told her that I would be home soon. I then informed my other co-workers that I had just spoken to my wife, she was very ill, and she needed me to come home if possible and help watch our son. They all had no problem with that, and told me to go on home and have a great night. When I left I was so dizzy and nervous that I almost vomited in the alley next to our shop. I drove, of course, next to the abortion clinic once more, and in the peculiarity of the night, I could see the dim lights of the emergency crews still on the scene. I put in a C.D. usually on my drive home from work, smoked cigarettes, and blared the radio. On this night I drove in complete and utter silence, with the windows down and a cool breeze gently grazing my face. My thoughts were on my family and the future.
My mother-in-law's birthday was the following day, and when I arrived home, my wife wanted to go to the market to pick up the ingredients to make cupcakes for her mother. She was also planning to drive to San Antonio and take them to her, along with a present she had purchased for her weeks before. I suggested that we rent some movies as well, which she was agreeable to.
As we left I told her that I had discovered on the internet earlier someone had attempted to bomb the abortion clinic on Highway 35. I jokingly told her "Look, it wasn't me I swear. I was with you and our little guy all day long."
Little did she know, I had left the bomb there the previous day on my way home from work and that the detonator failed to work properly, or rather one of the wires pulled loose in transition, causing the circuit of electrical charge to become incomplete. It had sat beside this car all night. I later found out it belonged to a patient. A woman who received an abortion there had been so drugged, and surely emotionally unstable, that when she left, she decided to just leave her car outside of the clinic for a few days. Some of her family knew about the abortion, some didn't at the time. They all did now.
We arrived at the movie rental store first. We rented a lot of movies. Some of them my wife had seen, all of them I had seen.
The titles included Seven, starring Brad Pitt and Morgan Freeman, Good Will Hunting, starring Matt Damon, Ben Affleck, and Robin Williams, A Bronx Tale, starring Robert DeNiro, and a comedy in which Will Farrell played an I.R.S. agent. I carried the bag of movies into the supermarket with us as my wife shopped for all of the ingredients which were necessary for her cooking. I remember she took an excessive amount of time locating a specific type of shampoo. The boy was running wild around the store, and we were sort of playing hide-and-seek between the isles. Usually I frowned on this type of behavior. Weeks before I had given him a spanking because we were in a store and he ran off from me and hid after I warned him that we were not in a very nice neighborhood, and I wanted him to stay close to me. But this night I did not mind him acting up. I played right along, and to his surprise, he had a playmate instead of a father for the night. After my wife paid for everything, we were on our way out to the car. I still had the movies in my hand, and my wife exclaimed "Shit! I have to go back. I forgot the little paper wrappers for the cupcakes." Then she said "Sorry." She wasn't sorry that she had forgotten something; she knew that I was a very patient and kind man to her. She said "sorry" because we had lately been putting in a real effort to stop using curse words in front of the child. He was learning new words, and fast, and he especially tried to imitate his heroes: her and me. I told her "No worries. I'll take the little guy to the car, get him in his car seat, and we will wait on you."
I grabbed her bags, and gave the little guy a light weight bag to carry so he could feel important arid useful. As we arrived at the car, and I threw in all of the bags, chucked little man into his car seat and strapped him in, I heard a loud thunder. When I looked up I saw a black military style helicopter with the word “POLICE’ etched on the bottom. The chopper banked right, and then flew off into the distance. This was unsettling. However, I convinced myself that it did not involve me and I was acting paranoid. As my wife was still inside the store, I decided to drive, and when she returned we were waiting. On the way home we listened to her new C.D. from her favorite band, and mine at the time, too. All of a sudden we jumped at a loud "BANG". We both began to ask each other if we had hit something, or if there was a flat. We were close to home, so we continued up the exit, and approached a stop light. The car seemed fine. As we drove the last mile home no troubles were encountered whatsoever.
We had wonderful night. We researched the internet on the actual expenses and legalities of living in Ireland. I had recently convinced my wife that this country was a cesspool of total debauchery and that we should leave as soon as possible. She was surprisingly up for this adventure, Of course we will have to save up some money first, and make sure the boy had everything he needed, as always. She always put him first, and I adored her for that. She was an excellent mother, and it was one of the things that initially attracted me to her. I met her as a patient at a brain injury hospital where she worked, as she was a member the direct care staff of nurses there. I was in love with her immediately.
We watched movies all night.
We discussed her dropping me off at an Alcoholics Anonymous meeting that I was mandated to attend as a parolee from Texas State prison. She would then make the hour and a half drive to San Antonio to visit her mother for her birthday with our son, and come back in time to pick me up from work late.
We dozed off into a deep slumber after I looked out of the bedroom window and wondered about my future, yet again.
The day seemed unusually quiet that morning. I can't remember if I had a chance to smoke a Marlboro, but considering that I normally did as soon as I woke up and brushed my teeth, I would bet that I did. It was around noon when we all excited the house. I carried a N.I.V. Bible that my mother had given me, along with a tattoo design of a huge eagle I intended to tattoo my wife with the following day. As we walked up the stairs outside of the apartment, I felt very odd. I walked up right behind my son, and my wife followed. As we approached the car, we looked down simultaneously at the back right tire which was flat. "I knew it!" said my wife. At that very moment every branch of the Federal government (besides the post office) swooped up to the front of the parking area at my apartment complex. The agents from the F.B.I, led, along with an agent from the A.T.F. They wore the usual dark-blue-with-yellow-lettered vests, and carried M16 assault rifles. I thought about running for a split second, but I heard my son scream, and run instinctively to his mother. I looked at them and then at myself, or thought of my position rather. I was afraid that if I ran, or took off running immediately, the agents would shoot, miss me, and hit one of them with a stray bullet.
I placed my Bible on top of the car, along with my hands. (tbc)
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February 2

2012-01-16T05:39:00.000-08:00

Formerly Stop the Killing of Young People (skyp) and soon, perhaps, Stop Killing Preemies

February 2, 2012 Vol. 9 No. 13
PO Box 7424, Reading, PA 19603
Phone – 484-706-4375
Email – johndunk@ptd.net
Web – skyp1.blogspot.com
Circulation – 201
John Dunkle, Editor

Abortion is Murder, a weak, pathetic response to baby murder, is sent out at least once a month. If the gestapo hasn’t jailed you for defending the innocent realistically, you either have to tell me you want it or go to the website. Faxes and emails are free but snail-mail is free only for PFCs, $400 for others.
Because I believe we should examine every legitimate means, including force, in our attempt to protect those being tortured to death, I want to hear from people who’ve been forceful and from those who defend them.. I’d also like to hear from those prolifers and pro-deathers who call force violence.

Prisoners for Christ:

1. Evans, Paul Ross 83230-180, USP McCreary, P.O. Box 3000, Pine Knot, KY 42635
2. Gibbons, Linda, Vanier WDC, 655 Martin St., P.O. Box 1040, Milton, ON, Canada L9T 5E6
3. Griffin, Michael 310249, 5914 Jeff Ates Rd., Milton, FL 32583-0000
4. Jordi, Stephen 70309-004, FCI P.O. Box 33, Terre Haute IN 47802 6/30
5. Knight, Peter James, P.O. Box 376, Laverton, Victoria, Australia
6. Kopp, James 11761-055, USP Canaan, P.O. Box 300, 3057 Easton Tpk., Waymart, PA 18472
7. Little, David SJRCC, 930 Old Black River Road, Saint John, NB E2J 4T3
8. Moose, Justin 27494-057 FCI Talladega, P.O. Box 1000, Talladega, AL 35160
9. Richardson, Alonzo Lee 12898-021, CCM, 716 McDonough Blvd. SE, Atlanta, GA 30315
10. Roeder, Scott P. 65192, PO Box 2, Lansing Kansas 66043
11. Rudolph, Eric 18282-058 US Pen. Max, Box 8500, Florence CO 81226-8500
12. Shannon, Rachelle 59755-065, FCI Waseca, Unit A, P.O. Box 1731, Waseca, MN 56093 3/31
13. Waagner, Clayton Lee 17258-039, United States Penitentiary, P.O. Box 1000, Lewisburg PA 17837

Even though it’s a shameful sin to abandon defenseless victims to their attackers, it’s a far worse sin when you attempt to pass the blame for that sin onto God by claiming that’s what he wanted you to do. And that’s precisely what so many people have done with their rejection of God’s clear and sensible instructions to defend the defenseless, and with their pretenses and fake excuses for rejecting those instructions. Pride is a terrible thing when it leads you to deny your own sin and instead say that God sinned. Peter James Knight

It’s conclusive. If any of you are threatened, because of your particularly unwelcome but legal prolife activities, with being visited at home by pro-deathers, it’ll never happen. I will vouch for it.
One particular activity the deathers find especially annoying is my standing outside their homes with an aborted baby poster or with my “A KILLER LIVES HERE sign. I’ve been doing that sporadically since 1970 and they hate it. Their ultimate threat has always been to visit me. Never happens.
Todd Stave of Voice of Choice went all out. He gathered five hundred or so killers’ helpers to plead with me to stop and then to threaten me with home visits if I didn’t. I let them all know immediately that I was not stopping, and now, almost two months later, not a single deather has shown up.
So, prolifers, you will know you are doing something effective when the deathers begin threatening to visit you at home. Don’t worry about it, though. It’s all talk.
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I continue here with the militant Christian’s journey from idea to reality:

This thing needed to be done. These people should be taught a simple lesson. How dare they so boldly kill? They need to be aware that even if they do not believe in God, the citizens of this country who still do hold them responsible for their treachery.
I headed toward the entrance of the clinic with the bomb in-hand and my black hood pulled over my head. As I previously conducted reconnaissance, I determined that the surveillance cameras mounted on the abortion clinic faced the south side of the building. I parked and approached from the north.
For a building along the side of a major interstate, the neighborhood seemed quiet, and it unsettled me. My blood boiled with rage as I walked steadily carrying an explosive device. I neared a foot bridge at the entrance of the building, and I stood next to a dark blue car. I determined that it belonged to the abortionist, a security guard, or someone working late hours cleaning blood-stained instruments or involved in child corpse disposal. My mind was truly a collage of rage, hatred, and fear. My stomach was tight and I sweated heavily. I placed the bomb next to this car on the ground. I figured the bomb would surely destroy the car, and the shrapnel of nails added would heavily damage the entrance of the building, putting the clinic out of commission for a time. The bomb package was top-heavy because more than two pounds of assorted nails put extra weight on the top portion of the explosive. As I let it go, it tipped over and then rocked back upright like a child's rocking horse.
I fled the parking area, got into my wife's car, and drove away.
During the ride home headed North on Interstate Highway 35, my mind was a mixture of accomplishment and fear. This fear pulsed through my veins like the blood that kept me alive, and it confused me. Every single person knew what I had attempted, or so I thought, and every passing car was an emergency vehicle responding to the scene of the crime. The timer I set on the bomb was for 35-40 minutes, and I felt every tick/tock of the clock even though I was on the other side of town. I stopped into a local supermarket and was still so shaken that I forgot to grab a shopping cart, and ended up carrying up more items than I could realistically handle back up to an excruciatingly long line. The items I carried in-hand consisted of a green pea salad with mayonnaise, a diced Italian sub, drinks, a dozen Roses, and a plastic bag filled with toy soldiers. I just had to get a gift for my little best friend as well, my wife's son.
As I walked inside the 1000 square foot apartment my wife and I had rented, I was greeted with affection, especially at the sight of “the Gift Bearer." Later I journeyed outside to smoke cigarettes from time-to-time. I felt an air of coolness and precarious unease. The truth of the matter was that I already missed my family
The next day my wife, our son, and I set out for a fun-filled day at "The Wild Basin," a huge hiking/camping ground deep in what is called the Texas Hill Country, just outside of Austin. Recently we had discovered a beautiful waterfall deep inside the forest. We felt that it belonged to us alone. I look back now, and I remember that I felt very vulnerable that day as we all three sat with our bare feet submerged in the water at the base of the waterfall. The tranquility of that afternoon was absolutely beautiful, in comparison to what I was to witness later that evening on my way to work.
After we all got something to eat, and showered, I departed for work at a downtown tattoo shop on South Congress Avenue.
When I approached the exit for the abortion clinic, I was amazed. There was a plethora of authority figures, and emergency personnel everywhere. I couldn't believe my eyes. I think that I was almost as surprised as everyone else witnessing this. I remember not wanting to look directly at the clinic for fear that all of the agents of the Federal government at the scene could read my thoughts, intentions, or hatred from the highway. I casually drove around the scene and exited the highway on the Oltorf exit. I then continued on to work downtown, and pulled up in front of the tattoo shop.
I parked on the street, which was abnormal considering that the street was usually crowded, and I strolled inside. All of my co-workers said their usual hellos and expressed wonder at what I had seen on my way to work. I knew that it would seem out of the ordinary if I didn't express interest in the goings-on I had just passed on the highway.
My favorite co-worker (a pro-choice advocate) who was tattooing a customer at the time, expressed an interest as well. I sat down at our work computer close to the front entrance to the shop, and I began to "surf the Internet" for any information concerning these matters. I also began to loosen up some, and the constant paranoia seemed to subside momentarily. I took my eyes off of the computer screen for a moment and began to stare at the black and blue checkered floor which I shined, stripped, and buffed weekly.
My least favorite co-worker, a male chauvinist pig of a man who seemed to think that he was God's gift to the world, made a comment that surely made me feel safer and certainly aware of the fact that no one knew what I had attempted to do, but me. He exclaimed, while tattooing a female customer who he was surely flirting with, " These idiots who do this sort of thing attempt to kill others who they say are killing babies. That makes no sense to me."
Little did he realize that he had just made me feel a whole lot more comfortable because it was apparent to me at that moment he had no idea that the "idiot" sat right in front of his eyes staring at him with intense hatred.

It will take several more issues to complete Paul Ross Evans’ remarkable account of his attack on child killing.
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As you probably know by now, Neal Horsley is hoping to turn Georgia into the first pro-life state. Neal calls the organization he is forming to accomplish this the “Army of God.” Go to horsleyforgovernor.com for details.
Brad-Marcy Riegg also has a plan to end legal child killing. Go to makeabortionillegal to see Brad’s plan, “Blueprint”:

Brad, Neal, I still believe that the Blueprint idea has the best likelihood of winning this war. I just need to get better exposure for it, because thus far its exposure has been very minimal. So far, all who have viewed it have either signed up or simply ignored it. None have presented a good refutation of its merits.
I do not believe the AoG strategy is best, because it relies on the threat of the use of a much inferior force (a single state's weaponry) to fight off a superior force (the US Military, et al), and that without even the advantage of surprise. I think most people will either see this weakness on its face and realize that this strategy will win the war, or they will object to it purely because it threatens the use of force, as has been seen from most activists who have seen it thus far.
The Blueprint relies on moral superiority and non-violent tactics, neither of which would be objectionable to the above mentioned camps. I think MLK Jr. was on to something, and what he learned applies aptly to our present situation.
I do not want to sign my name to the AoG plan, because if that were found out it might jeopardize my ability to help with the Blueprint strategy, or any other non-violent strategy in the future.

Neal, I see, I think you misunderstand the AOG strategy. Before there is a threat of even "much inferior force" there would have to be a period of confrontation that does not rely on the use of force at all but on the use of verbal conflict of rising dimensions, of acrimony similar to the rising acrimony between slaveholders and abolitionists before the Civil War. The AOG strategy as stated would result in that period of rising argument were Christians willing to associate with it. Which I think explains why they--you--aren't willing to associate with the AOG strategy and find reasons that have nothing to do with our stated plans but rely on a layer of false analysis of what the strategy actually entails. Specifically, where you say, "...it relies on the threat of the use of a much inferior force (a single state's weaponry) to fight off a superior force (the US Military, et al)".
The video is an example of the fact that we are not relying on the threat of the use of force except as a last resort after many steps have failed to find compromise with the baby butchers. But you and all the rest of the pro-life Christians are not even willing to take this argument to the point of anger. From my point of view, it is the refusal to find the means of taking the argument to the point of real anger, where acrimony becomes public and virulent that is the evidence this generation of Christian pro-lifers lie when they say they think the unborn are people.
At best the unborn are abstractions of people to pro-life Christians. And at worse pro-life Christians don't believe they are people at all.
How can the truth be otherwise, Brad? Even a woman would display anger if her child was being murdered, much less a man of God.
Anyway, thank you for the insight. I had suspected all along that you were unwilling to be seen to associate with real anger in defense of the babies. I'm glad I found a way to make this clear.
So go ahead with your reasoned calm political actions as the babies are being ripped limb from limb. Me, I'll continue to be angry, and look for people who will help me express it.

Brad, Thank you for your email. I understand the AOG strategy very well. I fully understand, and understood before, everything that you wrote in your email. And, I still see the AOG's strategy as having the same flaws that I mentioned before, principally that the AOG is relying on the threat of using an inferior force. It does not matter that the threat of force is presented as a last resort; it's still there, all the same, and it is that threat of military force that is the hand in the boxer's otherwise lifeless glove. The AOG strategy is only as strong as the strength of force that backs it up, which is to say, not much and not enough. If you had, resting in the wings, if necessary to use, greater military strength than the US has, then the strategy might very well work. But, you do not.
That being the case, if you were to ground your strategy in moral, not military, force, then you might also win, and I would support your strategy without reservation. The reason your strategy would possibly work by having moral force as its ultimate resort is because your moral strength would be superior to that of the US. Your moral high ground would expose the government's moral bankruptcy and hypocritical blood-lust.
Again, the only reason that relying on military force wrecks your strategy is because the AOG's potential military strength is weaker than that of the US. Only a foolish, inexperienced, bantam weight boxer would enter the ring with Mohammad Ali. The conclusion would be foregone. And, this analogy does not do justice to the disparity of power between an AOG controlled state and the US military, not at all. A better analogy might be that of Tibet threatening the Chinese with the use of force.
On the other hand, if the AOG were to adopt a non-violent, MLK Jr. strategy, the far superior moral strength it would then possess could expose the immorality of the federal government and its hollow, worldly powers. Then, the AOG might readily succeed, not only for one US state, but for all 50.
What your original email request did was to push me to crystallize and clarify precisely why the AOG strategy will fail, so long as it retains the ill-conceived moorings of a too-weak military force.
I am prayerful that the Lord Holy Spirit will help you to see this vital point, as He has now done for me. You have a genius for understanding and articulating the essence and horror of this bloodbath in which we find ourselves. You have taught me so very much and I hope that I can show you just the one main point, if none other, of this email, because your energy, acumen and courage are more than needed
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The many killers’ helpers Todd Stave connected me with are a Godsend. I eagerly anticipate their emails, like the following (my response in parentheses):

Dear John Dunkle, Thank you for the Newsletter. (You're welcome.)
Our moral authority arises from our Christian faith, which requires non-violence, forgiveness and understanding. (But does not forbid using force. Christ used force.)
What would Jesus do? (Since he used a weapon to chase those who were desecrating the temple, he'd do something more forceful to those who were tearing apart young people, an infinitely worse attack on Peace and Order -- God.)
First, there appears to be an air of mystery regarding the word “force”. From your newsletter: “I’d also like to hear from those prolifers and pro-deathers who call force violence.” The dictionary definition is clear - force is defined as “physical coercion; violence: to use force to open the window; to use force on a person.” (bad definition -- is it violent to force open the window? Try a different dictionary. My suggestion, "Webster's New World." And what about this – if someone approaches you with a knife to kill you, he is violent. If you grab a bat to defend yourself, you are forceful.)
Why do you feel the need to hear from people? (They're so much better than dictionaries.)
Let us remove this air of mystery – force is defined as violence, and is a criminal act – assault -- when used or threatened upon another person. (see above.)
Second, your newsletter contains much anger -- words such as gestapo and torture in your opening paragraph. (right)
These are not Christian words. (wrong)
The search for preventing abortions is a search for better life choices and providing to the needy. (nonsense)
If you truly seek the Christian path, then we will find you providing parental planning and birth-adoption services to women in need. (Uh, oh, here come the orders.)
How many women in need have you provided birth-adoption services to? (thousands)
God be with you, (you too)

And remember when we both thought they’d got me when they tracked down my wife?

Todd, I'll bet you didn't anticipate this either: Margaret is actually enjoying the letters she receives from your killers' helpers!
Here's one (it's typical) that arrived Friday:

Dear Margaret: Ho! Ho! Ho! Merry Christmas. Thousands are praying for you and your husband that he will stop destroying your and other families, harassing women seeking healthcare, and bullying clinic workers!
I am happy to report, that God has heard our prayers! God and Jesus are sad and are asking John to stop terrifying and harming women and blackening their names in women's hearts. So this season we pray for peace on earth, good will to men and women, and happy holidays. May the scales fall from John's eyes that he can use all that extra energy and time to please you and not chase other women.

Don't you love that unique last sentence? At any rate, Margaret is pleased. I can tell because of the way she refers to these letters at family gatherings.
They have no return addresses or signatures. Otherwise, I bet she'd reply -- any port in a storm, as they say, and just on the chance they're sincere. Hard to tell, ain't it. JD
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Jimbo’s latest Stacy&Hutch episode, “Red Zone II,” continues. It’s 2 a.m. and a cop has them cornered in a vacant lot:

They made their little foray into outraged/righteous taxpayer, but now, they are standing, with the cop, on one side of the Thin Blue Line, while hanging on his every word as he protects them and points out the Bad Guys, over there
S&H rolled with it. They had nothing to lose but your pride.
To make a Sir Galahad, there has to be a maiden in distress, somewhere.
You’re either that, or a criminal. Go with the maiden, S&H would say.
All encounters with strangers must resolve, one way or another. For animals it’s fight or flight. With cops it’s you can turn your back on these ones, they won’t harm my hometown and family, or, it’s further investigation/arrest.
This is not the Droid You Seek, it’s the idea you want to go through our interlocutor’s mind, just like Alec Guinness did in Star Wars.

Try This For Size: Cops Are Guardian Angels

For tried and true anti-management, anti-establishment types like S&H, and let’s face it, it takes at least a little bit of minute-man, lover of grass-rots country over Elites, that makes a good tag team, this Guardian Angel sentiment is enough to make them “blow their beets into the snow” (Jim Varrey).
But the curious , paradoxical thing about it is that, as their trust of God (not government in se) began to increase, S&H realized that according to His sense of humor, or economy, they seemed to run into a cop at least once every time they went tagging, but never in flagrante delicti.
It was almost as if God were trying to remind them, yeah, by all means be clever and disciplined, but remember, I will give the increase.
Unless the Lord builds the house, they labor in vain who build it.
(I’m remembering the melody of the Keith Green song with these words, as I wrote this – By the way, Survivors, did you get a copy of “With Ears to Hear” and “No Compromise” by Keith? Hurry up!)
S&H found themselves calming down the more they prayed.
They believed in a general sense that God was on their side, but with time, they found that they could never go tagging without a sense of peace, specifically about this switch, this town, this time. And He did the reminding with humble, bumblers, “Let me see if I can get this straight, you’re . . . what? Small town cops --once it even happened to hang in the middle of the Red Zone (3:45 AM) in an alleyway right behind an exchange with wet stencils and spray paint cans in plain view in the back of the car, which the cop swept over with his flashlight.
The cop calmly told them how to find the interstate.
S&H even thought that maybe he’d figured it out, and played dumb himself, or even said to himself, this is not the Lindbergh kidnapping. This is not the Grassy Knoll in Dallas. These are not the Droids I seek.
Either way, they praised God, and never took Him for granted. Never. And He always kept the cops away at the magic instant when it really counted. Always.

Brother Andrew

Readers familiar with the writings of
Brother Andrew, the much blessed smuggler of Bibles into Russia, will know exactly what S&H are talking about. Many many times, the border police would be blinded to “contraband” Bibles right in front of their eyes. Brother Andrew got in the habit of putting one Bible in plain view every time he crossed a border, just as his way of saying, “I rely on You, Lord.”

P.S. Sad to relate but it’s very much easier to move around in this decayed culture, when everyone is drunk, drugged, watching TV (about the same thing) or doing any one of a hundred other compulsive behaviors that divorce themselves from a normal sensorium, one possessed by any Medieval peasant or his d-o-g that hears a bump in the night.
After a little while S&H made fewer and fewer bumps in the night. Plus, as gas got higher in the late 70’s oil crisis, small town cops started cutting down on patrols.
It was a cultural crisis that brought about the abuse of labor by management, but the same crisis brought some perks which made the work easy and light, especially for someone willing to pray a lot and use a little guts, guts well within the reach of anyone. Every man or Every woman, willing to pray and obey.

Next up: Donuts, State Borderlines, Casino towns, Frontier towns, Rand McNally ghost cyberspace, Yellow pages, and stuff like that (. . . it’s a snap after the cops).
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I mistakenly began reposting “The New Abortion Providers,“ but decided to continue anyway: The new one we’re dealing with here is the Catholic, Emily Godfrey:

Godfrey spent the two years of her Family Planning Fellowship at the University of Rochester, where she did enough abortions to “train to competency," the term for doing a sufficient number of supervised abortions to be fully qualified to do the procedure alone. The rate of complication for first-trimester abortions that require hospitalization is so low (fewer than 1 in 100) that doctors often have to do the procedure scores of times to learn what to do when something goes wrong.
Godfrey also went to Nicaragua and Mexico to learn about those countries' reproductive-health services and to the World Health Organization in Geneva to do research. Now she's publishing W.H.O. data on using the IUD, inserted after unprotected sex, as emergency contraception. (It works surprisingly well, though it's not yet entirely clear how.) The fellowship's international component means that young doctors see the kind of suffering that their predecessors saw in the U.S. before Roe. "In Kenya, a woman came with a stick hanging out of her,'' says one doctor whose fellowship took her to Africa so she could train nurses to treat complications from illegal abortions. “You bring in this inexpensive, reusable equipment to places without electricity or running water, and you teach nurses to use it, and you save women's lives."
The first fellowship-trained doctors mostly took jobs in cities that were already flush with abortion providers — San Francisco, New York, Boston. Now positions in those places are filled, and the fellowship alums, who number more than 20 per year, are spreading out. In Chicago and even Rochester, there isn't one lone fellowship-trained physician. There are clusters. They go out for drinks together. Nationally, the fellows have annual meetings and an e-mail list on which they ask one another's advice. "More than anything, what's hard about this work is that there aren't a lot of people you can talk to about it," says Sunni, a colleague of Godfrey's and a 40-year-old OB-GYN whose parents immigrated to the United States from South Asia. "That's probably the most important thing we do for each other."
Godfrey and Sunni (who asked to be identified by a nickname to protect her privacy) have known each other since they met eight years ago when they were both fellows. The three of us had lunch together in April. Godfrey talked about the first job she took after she finished her fellowship and went back to Chicago. While she looked for a position on a medical-school faculty, she worked one day a week at an abortion clinic 90 miles away in the northern Illinois town of Rockford. The doctors there were the only providers within miles.

The owner of the Rockford clinic was Richard Ragsdale, a Vietnam veteran who'd opened his doors the day after Roe v. Wade was decided. The first time Godfrey came to work, Ragsdale wasn't there. A nurse showed Godfrey old-fashioned metal instruments that she'd never seen before. Godfrey made do as best she could. Before she could come back to meet Ragsdale the following week, he died. "They, called me, and asked, 'Are you our doctor now?'" she rernembered over lunch.
For the next two years, Godfrey drove, to Rockford one day a week. Once she prescribed birth control for her first patient, everyone in town knew her as the new abortion doctor. Protesters surrounded her when she walked into the clinic. One day, a clinic resident left his lunch in the car and said he'd rather be hungry than go back to get it. Godfrey tried to act tougher than she felt, but the work wore on her.

Meanwhile, an OB-GYN in his 60s started working at the clinic, and his unruffled calm seemed like a rebuke. "The older docs — those guys knew how to stand on their own two feet," she said. "He was immune to everything. But emotionally, for me, it was too hard."
And then one snowy day in 2007, Godfrey had a patient with a serious complication who needed to go to the hospital. She called the OB-GYN who was supposed to be on call. He was out of town. She called Sunni, who told her to get the patient to the local hospital. But Godfrey had no admitting privileges there, and the doctor on call seemed unwilling to admit the patient. "She said, 'How dare you come here,'" Godfrey remembered. She looked down at her salad, her face flushed.
"You were really put there all alone," Sunni said.
Godfrey nodded'. "Yeah, I remember you said that," Godfrey said. "And I was like, God, you're right." Godfrey called George Tiller, the veteran abortion provider who was later killed at his Kansas church in 2009 to ask his advice. He told her to call an ambulance and send the patient to the hospital.

Godfrey did, and the woman was admitted; she got the care she needed, and in the end she was fine. But Godfrey was shaken. So was Sunni, who told us about a dream she had after that tense day about Godfrey going back to Rockford. "The clinic got destroyed somehow. I saw you in the rubble, still working. And I said: 'This is ridiculous! Come home!'"

A year later, Godfrey stopped going to Rockford. By then she had started at the University of Illinois as an assistant professor of family medicine. This is the job that allows her to be an abortion provider with "a normal life," as she puts it. "You know what, I'm a single woman who still wants to get married," she says. "I will not be flying and driving around rural Midwest America. I'm not willing to be out On that frontier," (tbc)
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The Pat Richards’ essay I’m choosing to post this issue appeared two days before the Iowa caucus. Let’s see if Pat gets it right:

I admit it – I am actually starting to feel sorry for Rick Perry.
As you know, Texas Governor Rick Perry is one of the thousands of people vying for the Republican nomination for President. Early in the process, he held back for a while to let the others do their thing, then with great fanfare he entered the race, figuring all of the others would step aside in his triumphant wake. Well it didn’t work out the way he hoped it would. A few gaffes here and there, a brain fart that went viral, a very bizarre speech in New Hampshire and his numbers dropped dramatically.
So, here we are just two days from the first test, the Iowa caucuses, and he is stuck in fourth or fifth place. The Sword of Damocles is dangling precariously over his head. So, a few days ago he figures he needs to do something dramatic to prove to those right wing nuts who basically run the caucus process that he is the really, really, true, consistent conservative in the race. So, what better issue to stake out a claim than abortion
Perry has been around politics for a long time so he has had to face the abortion issue in many capacities, particularly as Governor. And, to his credit, he has been rather consistent. He has always opposed abortions except if the mother’s life was endangered and in the cases of rape or incest. No, don’t get me started on why it should be okay to “kill a baby” if the father is a rapist, but he has staked out that position for years. Then, suddenly, a week before the caucus, Rick Perry has seen the light! Praise the Lord!
Now he is saying, wait a minute, I don’t think abortion should be allowed in cases of rape or incest! To what can we attribute this startling, pre-right-wing caucus conversion? Well, Perry says now that he had a “change of heart” after watching a movie called “The Gift of Life.” Reportedly, after the movie Perry “started giving some thought about the issue of rape and incest” and when he talked to “Personhood USA” spokeswoman Rebecca Kissling, who was featured in the movie, her story “pierced [my] heart.” It seems that Ms. Kissling was a product of a rape.
“We had a fairly lengthy and heartfelt conversation about how she was conceived in rape,” Perry said, “and I couldn’t come up with an answer to defend the exceptions.”
How convenient. After all of these years, Perry has now decided to really think about this issue and, voila, he is now coincidentally taking the position that is supported by the radical anti-abortion crowd. Later, to make his conversion even more “credible,” he added that he believed that “God was working in my heart.” Always remember, it’s okay to change your mind on a fundamental issue like abortion, to have an affair or to commit any other sin as long as you then have the conversation with God and ask him to forgive you – unless, of course, you are a left wing liberal and then you are going straight to hell.
This one incident forces me to say something about Senator Rick Santorum, who is creeping up in the polls
– at least he has been consistent. He has always opposed abortion in cases of rape and incest and he has always been outspoken about his desire to outlaw abortion. I don’t like it, but I have to respect his consistency. And maybe that’s why he is picking up steam. Maybe the conservatives are realizing that he is a very consistent conservative unlike Gingrich, Romney and Perry.
In the long run, however, forcing the Republican nominees way to the right is only good news for President Obama. Right now, he is sitting there licking his chops, knowing that positions like Perry’s will only frighten the independents who will be so crucial in November.

What did I tell you. Isn’t Pat good? Santorum actually won in Iowa! Next for him, though, is one of those New England states and they’re all anti-Catholic.

Abortion is Murder, 9-12, February, 2012

2012-01-09T03:05:00.000-08:00

Formerly Stop the Killing of Young People (skyp) and soon, perhaps, Stop Killing Preemies

February, 2012 Vol. 9 No. 12
PO Box 7424, Reading, PA 19603
Phone – 484-706-4375
Email – johndunk@ptd.net
Web – skyp1.blogspot.com
Circulation – 232
John Dunkle, Editor

Abortion is Murder, a weak, pathetic response to baby murder, is sent out at least once a month. If the gestapo hasn’t jailed you for defending the innocent realistically, you either have to tell me you want it or go to the website. Faxes and emails are free but snail-mail is free only for PFCs, $100 for others.
Because I believe we should examine every legitimate means, including force, in our attempt to protect those being tortured to death, I want to hear from people who’ve been forceful and from those who defend them.. I’d also like to hear from those prolifers and pro-deathers who call force violence.

Prisoners for Christ:

1. Evans, Paul Ross 83230-180, USP McCreary, P.O. Box 3000, Pine Knot, KY 42635
2. Gibbons, Linda, Vanier WDC, 655 Martin St., P.O. Box 1040, Milton, ON, Canada L9T 5E6
3. Griffin, Michael 310249, 5914 Jeff Ates Rd., Milton, FL 32583-0000
4. Jordi, Stephen 70309-004, FCI P.O. Box 33, Terre Haute IN 47802 6/30
5. Knight, Peter James, P.O. Box 376, Laverton, Victoria, Australia
6. Kopp, James 11761-055, USP Canaan, P.O. Box 300, 3057 Easton Tpk., Waymart, PA 18472
7. Little, David SJRCC, 930 Old Black River Road, Saint John, NB E2J 4T3
8. Moose, Justin 27494-057 FCI Talladega, P.O. Box 1000, Talladega, AL 35160
9. Richardson, Alonzo Lee 12898-021, FCI Pollock P.O. Box 4050, Pollock, LA 71467
10. Roeder, Scott P. 65192, PO Box 2, Lansing Kansas 66043
11. Ross, Michael, Custer County Jail, 1010 Main St., Miles City, Montana 59301
12. Rudolph, Eric 18282-058 US Pen. Max, Box 8500, Florence CO 81226-8500
13. Shannon, Rachelle 59755-065, FCI Waseca, Unit A, P.O. Box 1731, Waseca, MN 56093 3/31
14. Waagner, Clayton Lee 17258-039, United States Penitentiary, P.O. Box 1000, Lewisburg PA 17837

Even though it’s a shameful sin to abandon defenseless victims to their attackers, it’s a far worse sin when you attempt to pass the blame for that sin onto God by claiming that’s what he wanted you to do. And that’s precisely what so many people have done with their rejection of God’s clear and sensible instructions to defend the defenseless, and with their pretenses and fake excuses for rejecting those instructions. Pride is a terrible thing when it leads you to deny your own sin and instead say that God sinned. Peter James Knight
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There are more important writings I should be posting here rather than these exchanges between Todd Stave of Voice of Choice, and me, but I can’t help it:

me, Hi Todd, can you believe that some of the killers’ helpers you persuaded to email me do not like it when I email them? Most, though, don’t mind, and dozens talk to me, some quite pleasantly and literately (see below). What more can I ask?

cyndy d, Hello, Mr. Dunk, Again I thank you for your newsletter, although I still shake my head in disagreement. But I do respect your commitment and tenacity. You must have the patience of Job to deal with less-than-articulate but vehemently vitriolic pro-choice rantings. Even if I might agree with them in principle, I don't believe rudeness is necessary or constructive for either side of the issue.
Personally, I think while you protest "serial killers," you might want to throw in a visit to Dick Cheney and G.W. Bush, among others who would attack fully formed living human beings without provocation or even the excuse of population control. But that's just me. I am beginning to accept that we always will be at a stalemate on the matter of choice (at least for first-trimester terminations. ... late-term, hell no).
I need to take care of my own for now. At the moment, that would be my son (who broke his leg Sunday while playing basketball) and his son. Neither soul was planned nor regretted. Go figure.
Is it OK for me to wish you a merry Christmas? Or do I need to water it down to a happy holidays thing? (I guess that wouldn't be so bad ... "holy days.") Either way, have a great one. Namaste,

Jeanine, God Bless you, John. You do have a lot of free time on your hands.
Merry Christmas and all to you and yours. I'm looking forward to next months crazy rantings.

Todd, (with me in parentheses), Please keep up the good fight John. (yes)
You are the poster child for why my supporters support me. (I don’t believe that. You don’t even mention me anymore.)
I had a nice dialog with some of the people at the rally in Germantown a few weeks ago. (I don’t believe that either.)
Everyone I spoke to thinks that abortion is wrong AND you are doing things that give your movement a bad reputation. (I don’t believe any of this stuff.)
It is because of people like you that laws are passed to further restrict your access to clinics and service seekers. (What restrictions?)
So, while it is clear that you will remain on my watch list, you also serve some larger service to the pro-choice activists. (wishful thinking)
By the way, have the abortions in your neighborhood stopped? (no)
Are your protests working? (no, except on you)
Do you plan on learning how to write and spell in the new year? (no, too old – couldn’t quite contain your anger, could you.)
Without an opponent there is no game. (What does this mean? Anyway, are you going to tell your killers’ helpers to attack me again? Could you maybe send out another “call to attack”? I want to talk to as many killers’ helpers as I can. Words are not wasted on them as they are on the zombies who wouldn’t know an abortion from a haircut, and wouldn’t care even if they knew. Merry Christmas,

Todd (with me in parentheses), I am pleased you do not believe me. (I’ll bet.)
I am sure you will not believe me when I tell you that you are the topic of some conversations at DOJ and on Capitol Hill. (This is something I knew ten years ago, so I’ll believe that.)
I am also sure you will not believe me when I tell you that you are helping my cause in shaping legislation that will make what you are doing a crime (like FACE).
(Geese, if you have that kind of power, I might have to become a member of VOC myself. Don’t hold your breath.)
You will do what you want and I am counting on that. (Yes, just yesterday I visited two enemy homes, Jen Boulanger’s and John Roizin’s. Now will you do what I want and attack me again publicly. You are my only hope for fame, or is that notoriety.)

Me (two weeks later), Todd, Todd, how do you expect your followers to email me, visit me, talk to me sweetly about changing my ways, if you yourself won't even give me the time of day. Oh, maybe you'll say something next week, but how is that really communicating? I'm getting tired of waiting.
Your pal, John Dunkle
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I began “The New Abortion Providers” last issue because Jimbo told me it would be the most important article posted in “Abortion is Murder” in the past ten years. And Jimbo is my boss, after the pope of course.

This is the future. Or rather, one possible future. There's a long way to go from here to there. Between 2000 and 2005, the last year that statistics are available, the number of abortion facilities in the U.S. dropped a percent—a smaller dip than those in the preceding five-year periods, but a decline nonetheless. "The "90s were about getting abortion back into residency training and medical schools," says Jody Steinauer, an OB GYN professor at the University of California at San Francisco, the hub of the abortion-rights countermovement in medicine. "Now it's about getting abortion into our practices."
The initial push to lift the status of abortion in medicine came from the profession's most junior members. In 1992, Steinauer started medical school at U.C.S.F. In the spring of her first year, she and thousands of other students received a mailing at home called "Bottom Feeder.'' It made racist jokes and included this exchange: "Q What would you do if you found yourself in a room with Hitler, Mussolini and an abortionist, and you had a gun with only two bullets? A: Shoot the abortionist twice;"
Distressed by the mailing, Steinauer started talking to students at other schools about how abortion wasn't the topic of a single class. She took year off and started the group Medical Students for Choice. Soon chapters throughout the country began pushing to add lectures about abortion to the medical-school curriculum. "Not everyone has to do abortion, but everyone has to think about it," Steinauer says today of M.S.F.C.'s philosophy. The point is to recruit not only future abortion providers but all the supporters they'll need inside medicine later in their professional lives. M.S.F.C. now has 10,000 members. "You know, all these students going into dermatology or radiology — if you're an OB who wants to provide and your hospital won't let you, they're the ones you want as your allies on the hospital board," Steinauer says.
The next important moment came in 1995. With new studies showing how low the training rates for residents had fallen, the National Abortion Federation, with M.S.F.C. as an ally, began pushing for change. The Accreditation Council for Graduate Medical Education — which represents the medical establishment — decided, for the first time, to make abortion training a requirement for all OB- GYN residency programs seeking its accreditation. The anti-abortion movement tried to smother the new mandate. The following year, Congress passed the Coats Amendment, which declared that any residency program that failed to obey the Accreditation Council's mandate could still be deemed accredited by the federal government. But the council had spoken, and medical schools at teaching hospitals listened. Today, about half of the more than 200 OB GYN residency programs integrate abortion into their residents' regular rotations. Another 40 percent of them offer only elective training.
To establish a secure foothold in academic medicine, abortion rights supporters knew that along with residency programs they needed the kind of advanced training that attracts the best doctors and those who want to join medical-school faculties of advanced training that attracts the best doctors and those who want to join medical-school faculties. A physician at the U.C.S.F. medical school set up the Family Planning Fellowship, a two-year stint following residency that pays doctors to sharpen their skills in abortion and contraception, to venture into research and to do international work. In recent years, the fellowship has expanded to 21 universities, including the usual liberal-turf suspects — Harvard, Columbia, Johns Hopkins, Stanford, U.C.L.A. — but also schools in more conservative states, like the University of Utah, the University of Colorado and Emory University in Georgia.
When Salt Lake City and Atlanta are home to programs that train doctors to be expert in abortion and contraception, the profession sends a signal that family-planning practices are an accepted, not just tolerated, part of what doctors do. That helps draw young physicians. The first generation of provid¬ers after Roe took on abortion as a crusade, driven by the urgent memory of seeing women become sick or die because they tried to induce an abortion on their own, in the days before legalization. Out of necessity, the doctors pushed ahead with little training or support. "We did it by the seat of our pants," says Philip Ferro, an 82-year-old OB-GYN at the S.U.N.Y Upstate Medical University in Syracuse.' 'There was no formal source of knowledge."
As Ferro wryly puts it, "That would not stand today." Abortion and contraception have become the subjects of rigorous, evidence-based research. The younger doctors who are coming through the residency training programs and the Family Planning Fellowship "have invigorated this field beyond my greatest expectations," Grimes, the researcher and abortion provider, says. ''We are cranking out highly qualified, dedicated physicians who are doing world-class research. There is a whole cadre of people. I helped train some of them, and I'm very proud of that. In the 1980s, I wasn't sure who would fill in behind me when I retired. I'm much more optimistic now."
Many of the protégées Grimes is talking about are women. In the first generation after Roe, abortion providers were mostly men because doctors were mostly men. Since then, women have streamed into the ranks of OB-GYN and family medicine. They are now the main force behind providing abortion.
The providers that make up the new vanguard don't define themselves as "abortion doctors." They often, try to-make the procedure part of their broader medical practice—by spending much of their week seeing patients for general gynecology or primary-care visits, and by being on call on the labor and delivery floor. If the young doctors succeed at making abortion mainstream and respected within medicine, abortion could move from clinics to doctor's offices and hospitals. And if that happened, would the politics surrounding it finally change? Would protesters stand outside a hospital or a primary-care clinic or a group practice, that treats all kinds of patients?
By taking jobs on university faculties, the young doctors avoid walking to work through a scrum of screaming demonstrators. "Some people like to live on the edge — I don't," said Emily Godfrey, a 40-year-old doctor who practices at a primary-care clinic at the University of Illinois at Chicago, where she also does abortions. "I'm a Catholic girl from the suburbs. I'm a yoga student. I like calm and serenity."
Godfrey is tall and graceful, with auburn hair and freckles; She decided as a child she wanted to be a doctor. In her favorite course as an undergraduate at the University of Wisconsin, on the history of women in medicine, she read rejection letters that Harvard Medical School once wrote to women applicants who were turned down because they would someday marry. Godfrey started at the Medical College of Wisconsin in 1993, the same year that Jody Steinauer founded Medical Students for Choice. Godfrey put most of her extracurricular energy into working with domestic-violence victims. But as a third-year student, she went to an M.S.F.C. meeting at which an internist who did abortions suggested a book called "The Story of Jane." It was about a few women in Chicago, in the years before Roe, who were furtively trying to help other women in their desperate search for illegal but safe abortions. Godfrey still has her copy. "Women had to meet strange men who were supposedly doctors in a hotel room or in somebody's kitchen," she recalled. "To ask a woman to show up secret¬ly like that and hope some guy won't take advantage of you—to me, it was horrible. I started thinking that I wanted to be the one to make sure that women in that Situation could be dignified."
After graduation, Godfrey started her family-medicine residency in a hospital on Chicago's West Side. It bordered gang territory. On her obstetrics rotation, Godfrey delivered baby after baby to poor women who seemed overwhelmed. Some were drug addicts. "Bringing so many unwanted children into the world, or children who wouldn't be readily provided for because their mothers were on drugs or who were taken away at birth — well, that just solidified my feeling that I wanted to provide abortions," she told me.
Godfrey read up on contraception and learned that lUDs can be safely inserted right after delivery. But Medicaid refused to pay for a delivery and this second procedure in one day. "Many of my patients were getting pregnant again, without intending to, and it was extremely frustrating," she says.
When a friend gave her a flier about the Family Planning Fellowship, Godfrey saw it as a way to learn a skill she wanted to have, try her hand at research and travel abroad. Most Family Planning fellows are OB-GYNs; Godfrey was one of the first family-medicine doctors in the program. Family physicians deliver babies, set broken arms, remove precancerous moles. Because they're more likely than specialists to work in rural areas, they are for abortion-rights advocates the best hope of bringing more providers to the parts of the country where hundreds of miles roll by without one. (tbc)

Bummer! As soon as I hit Emily Godfrey I realized I’d already posted this! Who could forget Emily, the Catholic baby killer. A Catholic baby killer is the pro-death crowd’s Bernard Nathanson. The fact that I still had the article in my “to post” folder indicates that maybe I printed only part of it? I just don’t know. If anybody remembers, let me know. Still, I’ll continue with it because it’s worth reading twice.
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And now, Jimbo’s “Red Zone II continues. Stacy & Hutch are about to be caught in the red zone by two city cops on motorbikes:

Their out-of-state car was not too far away and a cop could well ask to see it as proof that they were not street people.
But before that happened, they had real IDs on them which would ID them as out-of-towners.
They rapidly reviewed in their minds their answers to the Four Questions: 1) my real name; 2) my real address; 3) I’m en rout between my real house and my mother’s (she’s sick); Disneyland (I’m bored); 4)
At this exact moment I’m standing in the parking lot right now because:
a) I’m lost (“Do you know how I can find Interstate X, Officer?”) [smile]; b) I’m trying to decide where to eat (“Do you know a good place to eat this time of night, Officer?”) [smile]; c) I’m tired (“Do you know a nice, clean motel we can stay at that isn’t too expensive, Officer?” ) [smile].
Since this was not California nor Massachusetts and S&H were not married to each other, we might as well add question five for them: “What are you two doing here, at night, together?”
The best way to answer this question is pre-emptively, “we’re sewing-circle pals,” worked into why we’re here answers, earlier.
Or, hey, shoot for legitimacy: We go the same church. Our husbands are both lawyers and we met at the bar association dinners, or just, we’re pals out having a good time.
Since the main “legend” underlying S&H’s trips didn’t change from trip to trip, recounting it became more fluid with time, and even a little tiny top-note of “. . . well of course we’re friends and go skylarking all the time . . . everybody knows that!” A little, tiny bristling, baring of teeth, done just so, can help a lot.
Remember, innocent civilians usually resent too much police “help.”
But never get too far away from playing up to the flip side of every cop (distracted) – “Oh, Officer, you’re just in time. We need a place to eat and we’re starved.” In this scenario a little resentment could help – “Doesn’t this town have any good all-night diners?” gives Mr. Home Town Boy a chance to defend his town – “You’d like Luigi’s, he’s over on . . . two blocks over that way . . .”
And if it goes that way, you gotta go to Luigi’s toute suite, even if just for a coke.
Here’s another direction S&H found to be fruitful: if cop pushes too far in direction of what’s two nice girls like you doing in a place like this at night (most switches are urban or urbanish), then S&H can come back, “What? A couple of nice girls can’t go out at night in this town, unmolested?”
This gives Cop a great chance to slip over to Galahad, quickly, “We do our best, you know, but we can’t be everywhere at once. Surely you must know that from [answer to question number two, where are you from?]
For that matter, to the diner question he could say, “This isn’t exactly Brooklyn, you know. The streets roll up her pretty early . . .”
The point is, after they bared their teeth a little, about diners or nice girls, S&H found that no matter what the cop said next, they would stare at him, nodding open-mouths, as if he had just revealed the Rosetta Stone, the General Theory of Relativity, the Second Law of Thermodynamics, Plank’s constant, why Smalltown Cops (has-been high school football answer to the universe and everything all at once players) ain’t so dumb compared to city slickers after all. (tbc)
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Since I‘m running old stuff this issue, let me include something great Michael Bray wrote about fifteen years ago:The Impending Execution of Paul Hill

It has been a fairly uneventful summer. There was a brief flurry of abortuary destruction in the early part of the year (bringing joy to the hearts of those who pray for spiritual revival). But things are relatively calm on the streets where ex-utero people live and move and have their being. And D.C., the murder capital of the country, has seen a decrease in crime. “May’s statistics are 45 percent lower than May of last year and crime has been consistently lower for the past 14 months by an average of 20-25 percent” (Washington Times, 9 July, 1997).
This kind of peace is good for those of us who are actively pursuing our vacation time. We don’t want folks performing drive-by shootings as we tour the Capital City or any other blood soaked American town. Indeed, as I take my children to swim team or wrestling practice or to a friend’s house to play, I am glad that the judgment of God is, for some reason, held in abeyance. There is no blood-letting in the streets yet, like, say, Jerusalem or Ulster or any number towns in Rwanda or Liberia. And aren’t we glad?
But it is bothersome to be reminded of the call God has placed upon the lives of others. Paul Hill has been sentenced to death. Apparently he was “called” (as by God) to the sacrificial, public witness he made. And we are reminded that the hand of God sometimes falls hard upon us; He is, indeed, both good and severe (Rom. 11:22). How good He was to the innocents whom He moved Paul to defend and to us who have been encouraged by his courage and obedience. And yet, how severe He is toward the Hill family – depriving children and wife of a father and husband. Yes, we are reminded that God doesn’t mess around. He is serious; he is severe. And these truths about our God are not happily recalled. It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of an awesome and holy and everliving God.
Paul’s public witness was one which not only testified to the humanity of the child in the womb and to the love we are to show our neighbors who are being delivered over to death; his deed was also a testimony against the judges of the land. Yes, he displayed the judgment which every prosecutor and judge ought to be processing against all the childkillers from Atlantic to Pacific.
Paul Hill was called to abort the abortionist, and his wife and children were called to suffer the loss of husband and father for righteousness sake. Most of us have other callings, theoretically. And each is to employ his gift and answer his divine vocation in obedience to Christ and His word before all powers and authorities.
Presumably, the Almighty has given some of us the less glorious task (as it may be viewed from enlightened historians some time in the future) of lobbying for the welfare of those martyrs who have put their immediate comfort, yea their very lives, in jeopardy for mercy sake. But if that be our task, we must be about it. We must demand; we must warn; we must exhort; we must importune; we must plead with the powers that are. A righteous man, our brother in the Faith, has been sentenced to die for doing justice and showing mercy. He is to be executed for obedience to our Lord who calls us to defend the orphan; who calls us to do no murder, but to defend the innocent. And his blood will be upon those authorities which participate in this unjust execution.
It is our duty at this hour to write to the Florida State Office of Executive Clemency. Here is a summary of Paul Hill’s post-sentence subjudice history:
The very idea of clemency for Paul may be offensive to some of you; we think of clemency as mercy given to a wrongdoer. And as we acknowledge no wrong in Paul’s service, clemency is an inaccurate word to describe the relief that we seek. (It is for these reasons, I am confident, that Paul has had no zeal to pursue pardons. To seek pardon is – even if only implicitly – to admit wrongdoing. He will have nothing to do with such falsehood.)
But it is Paul Hill who has made of himself an excellent sacrifice. We can sully ourselves by asking rulers to extend mercy as they understand it even when we know we ought to ask as well that they repent and award him honors. We can humbly plead for his life. We can implore the powers to show mercy, even if they are confused and exchange the truth for a lie. Speak to them in their own language. They think Paul a sinner and a murderer. Bid them to extend mercy to the poor benighted wretch who still thinks children are created by God in His image.

Here Rev. Bray lists the names and addresses of eight officials with power to grant Hill clemency.

Finally, brothers and sisters, if you could do us the kindness of sending a ninth copy of your letter to us, we would be grateful.
May our Lord, who is rich in mercy, grant you time and zeal to write requests for our brother’s life.
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Guess how bad I felt after reading Pat Richards’ latest on the abortion.ws blog, “Boring”:

A short while ago, I got the word that there would be a “big protest” in front of Germantown Reproductive Health Services, an abortion clinic in Maryland. It’s the clinic where Doctor Lee Carhart works a few days a week. It had become a “famous” gathering site because Doctor Carhart performs later abortions. It had been years since I actually saw a protest and a while since I had talked to Lee, so I decided to drive up to the event.
When I make the left hand turn off the main road that morning, I was immediately confronted by the usual “Big Dead Fetus Truck,” as we used to call them. I am, of course, used to the pictures but I couldn’t help thinking about a mother and her child innocently turning that same corner and seeing this ugliness.
It was a big crowd, maybe four hundred anti-abortion protestors. They were standing on the sidewalk in front of a large office complex and the clinic itself was in the back, not visible to the protestors. What struck me right away was the silence. I have been so used to loud, blaring bullhorns, people screaming at the patients, escorts and staff at the top of their lungs. This event, however, was different and it seemed like anti-abortion activists may be exploring different ways of making their point. Except for the truck, there were no other gross signs. People weren’t screaming. Instead they were singing and praying quietly in groups. Some were carrying signs, but they were mostly signs about “regretting” ones abortion and other low-key messages.
There were several county police cars patrolling the area and I do have to say that I was disturbed to see them just watching a woman near the car entry way practically stopping card by holding out brochures for them to take. I felt it was obstructing vehicular traffic, but the police let it go.
I wanted to visit Doctor Carhart, so I walked up to a police car. They were understandably suspicious of who I was so I told them I would call Lee from my mobile phone. I got him right away and he said of course I could come in. So, I just told the police and they waived me in. Later, I got chills thinking that I could have been a clever assassin who really wasn’t talking to Lee Carhart. Yes, I still might have had a tough time actually entering the clinic because they had a buzzer system, but I also could have just waited right outside the clinic door where there were absolutely no cops.
I had a pleasant meeting with Lee and his wife. While he was certainly aware of the scene outside, Lee is used to the attention and it doesn’t phase him at all. We talked about his work, how the clinic was doing, conventions he would be going to and speaking engagements. He was, as always, very laid back, almost like the “country doctor.”

When I left the clinic, I hung around, not talking to anyone except a few pro-choicers across the street, including Todd Stave, the founder of Voice of Choice, a group that organizes hundreds of phone calls to particularly aggressive anti-abortion protestors. Then, I dove back into the crowd and, to be perfectly honest, was totally bored.
And I guess “boring” is okay in a situation like this. They are exercising their right to free speech, they are not threatening anyone. The cops are there to keep the peace if necessarily (although a little loosely) and every woman got to the clinic with no incidents.
Sometimes boring is good.

I had told Todd Stave that I would meet him there at that protest. Then I decided the two-plus hour trip was just too long, and rationalized: “Aw, he won’t be there anyway.” As you can see, not only was Todd there but Pat was too. I could have talked in person to my two favorite killers’ helpers, after my son-in-law, that is. I bet I’ll never get another chance.
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At the end of the October issue, #6, I wrote that in November I would finish posting Paul Ross Evans’ “the Militant Christian.” I forgot. Paul’s ending includes several prayers he composed himself: For Strength – A Soldier’s Prayer

Father God, my only master, there are no other Gods before you. I worship and serve you. Help me to remain strong and wise during our Holy War, and remain faithful to only you. Help me to remember our Armies of old and your will carried out through them, as well as our inevitable victory. Amen’

Prayer of Gain – (a portion of Psalm 119)

Remember the word unto thy servant, upon which thou hast caused me to hope. This is my comfort in my affliction: for the word hath quickened me. The proud have held me greatly in derision: yet have I not declined from thy law. I remembered thy judgments of old, O Lord, and have comforted myself. Honor hath taken hold upon me because of the wicked that forsake thy law. Thy statutes have been my songs in the house of my pilgrimages. I have remembered thy name, O Lord, in the night, and have kept thy law. This I had because I kept thy precepts.

God, I quote the following scripture. Please help these words bless my life, and lend to it love and wisdom.

Here Paul quotes the following: Hebrews 12:2-8, Hebrews 13:6 (and verse 8), Hebrews 5:1,4 and Acts 21:18. Then he closes “The Militant Christian” with this:

Prayer for our Nation to Abandon Evil Agendas

Help this country turn away from its path towards Satan. Help us reject abortion, pornography, sodomy, and sins of science, technology, heathenry, and the occult. Help us to know you, Lord God, and what it truly means to follow your word and your ways. amen

Psalm 23 and Psalm 144 (These psalms are popular prayers of strength and loyalty to God. They are helpful and are used by the author to end prayer with the Lord our God.)
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Oops! “The Militant Christian” is not over. In this typed last section Paul describes his pilgrimage and it is strangely similar to Paul Hill’s, and that other Paul’s.

Documented Action by the Author of the Text
by Paul Ross Evans

The dusky sky was an eerie shade of yellow as the evening enveloped me. My existence was floating somewhere in the wind. At this time, I had reached the "point of no return" and gone beyond, substantially.
I felt as if there were not a single soul in the entire world who could understand the dynamics of my personal struggle against the majority of mankind, what I had attempted to do, or why. To my knowledge, no one in American history had ever attempted to bomb five locations on American soil in less than five months. Also at this juncture I had sent a phony explosive to Michael Newdow, a California atheist who challenged the words "under God" in the United States Pledge of Allegiance in court. This aside, I had sent numerous threats by mail around the nation containing wadded clumps of human hair that I sometimes discovered while walking around downtown Austin, Texas (my hometown) while- chain-smoking Marlboros and drinking Starbucks coffee. I stirred emotionally during these solitary moments, often among many of the residents walking about on the busy streets of the capital of The Lone Star State. I decided to include these many hairs as to invest a genuine piece of the citizens of a town I felt directly assaulted and offended my religion daily. First and foremost however, the hair was surely added to throw off agents of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. As I sat in my wife's car outside of an apartment complex that faced an abortion clinic named "The Austin Women's Health Clinic," I turned to face the bomb that sat next to me in the passenger's seat. My wife had no idea of my little "projects" and I strived to keep it that way in order to protect her from incriminating herself, in the event I was to be arrested. I armed the explosive using what most bombers refer to as a "safe arm switch," pulled the sleeves of my baggy sweatshirt over my hands in order to guard the bomb of any of my fingerprints, and picked up the soft-sided cooler containing the bomb. This thing needed to be done. These people should be taught a simple lesson. How dare they so boldly kill? (tbc)

Abortion is Murder, 9-11, January 2, 2012

2011-12-18T04:02:00.000-08:00

Formerly Stop the Killing of Young People (skyp) and soon, perhaps, Stop Killing Preemies

January 2, 2012 Vol. 9 No. 11
PO Box 7424, Reading, PA 19603
Phone – 484-706-4375
Email – johndunk@ptd.net
Web – skyp1.blogspot.com
Circulation – 327
John Dunkle, Editor

Abortion is Murder, a weak, pathetic response to baby murder, is sent out at least once a month. If the gestapo hasn’t jailed you for defending the innocent realistically, you either have to tell me you want it or go to the website. Faxes and emails are free but snail-mail is free only for PFCs, $100 for others.
Because I believe we should examine every legitimate means, including force, in our attempt to protect those being tortured to death, I want to hear from people who’ve been forceful and from those who defend them.. I’d also like to hear from those prolifers and pro-deathers who call force violence.

Prisoners for Christ:

1. Evans, Paul Ross 83230-180, USP McCreary, P.O. Box 3000, Pine Knot, KY 42635
2. Gibbons, Linda, Vanier WDC, 655 Martin St., P.O. Box 1040, Milton, ON, Canada L9T 5E6
3. Griffin, Michael 310249, 5914 Jeff Ates Rd., Milton, FL 32583-0000
4. Jordi, Stephen 70309-004, FCI P.O. Box 33, Terre Haute IN 47802 6/30
5. Knight, Peter James, P.O. Box 376, Laverton, Victoria, Australia
6. Kopp, James 11761-055, USP Canaan, P.O. Box 300, 3057 Easton Tpk., Waymart, PA 18472
7. Little, David SJRCC, 930 Old Black River Road, Saint John, NB E2J 4T3
8. Moose, Justin 27494-057 FCI Talladega, P.O. Box 1000, Talladega, AL 35160
9. Richardson, Alonzo Lee 12898-021, FCI Pollock P.O. Box 4050, Pollock, LA 71467
10. Roeder, Scott P. 65192, PO Box 2, Lansing Kansas 66043
11. Ross, Michael, Custer County Jail, 1010 Main St., Miles City, Montana 59301
12. Rudolph, Eric 18282-058 US Pen. Max, Box 8500, Florence CO 81226-8500
13. Shannon, Rachelle 59755-065, FCI Waseca, Unit A, P.O. Box 1731, Waseca, MN 56093 3/31
14. Waagner, Clayton Lee 17258-039, United States Penitentiary, P.O. Box 1000, Lewisburg PA 17837

Even though it’s a shameful sin to abandon defenseless victims to their attackers, it’s a far worse sin when you attempt to pass the blame for that sin onto God by claiming that’s what he wanted you to do. And that’s precisely what so many people have done with their rejection of God’s clear and sensible instructions to defend the defenseless, and with their pretenses and fake excuses for rejecting those instructions. Pride is a terrible thing when it leads you to deny your own sin and instead say that God sinned.
Peter James Knight
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The Voice of Choice project has wound down. It was fun while it lasted. Todd Stave thanked me for emailing this on December 1:

Hey Todd, I was counting on you. That's why I thanked you for asking your killers' helpers to stay in touch. But the second bombardment proves to be less than half as successful as the first, and the first, as I told you, was a big disappointment.
What's next? Forget that visiting me stuff. You and I both know it'll never happen. Why should it? Your killers, and you, their helpers, have everything you want now. Visiting an enemy is a desperate measure. That's why I do it. I'd love to see some of you folks, but I am absolutely certain that will be my third big disappointment.
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Listen to this! I sent my January newsletter to all those who emailed me to say stop visiting the homes of the killers. Evidently, though, they don’t like it when someone sends them unsolicited email; so, they run to mommy:

Dear Mr. Dunk:

PenTeleData has received a report from America Online (AOL) concerning an e-mail message you recently sent to an AOL user:
Please keep the following information in mind when emailing AOL customers:
AOL has high level spam filters on their mail servers –emails sent to multiple AOL users can be tagged as spam:
Messages with a high number of recipients can be tagged as spam (AOL and others)
Forwarding messages or Responding to All (messages with lots of headers in them) can cause an email to be tagged as spam
People receiving messages can hit their spam button and tag the message as spam – this puts your email address into their blocked senders list and future messages to the sender may not be viewed
Please remember the PenTeleData email policy when sending email
The spam report was generated by the recipient of the email you sent, not PenTeleData
PenTeleData recommends that you contact any individual you know who uses an AOL e-mail address (via means other than email, if possible) in order to determine if they wish to continue to receive your e-mail messages. Failure to resolve this issue could result in more reports tracing back to your account.
If you have questions regarding this notice, please contact us at 800-281-3564 (press 2, then 1).
Thank you for your business and continued support.

Sincerely,
Joann

PenTeleData Customer Service
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Phone 800-281-3564 – Hours: 24 hrs. a day, 7 days a week
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The Voice of Choice campaign is now defunct. I can’t remember when I’ve so much fun, and me 76! The fun came from the emails. They piled in and I responded (in parentheses). Here are a typical three:

Thanks for copying me John. (?)
Your language is amazing! (Thanks)
Did you finish school? (Yes)
Just for YOUR information, I absolutely and 100% will never stop in MY quest to stop morons like you who DO NOT follow the law. (Just for MINE?)
Our law states abortions are LEGAL and JUST. Get over it. ("JUST" my foot.)
I will do ANYTHING in my power to help ANY WOMAN NO MATTER HER AGE to get an abortion through any regular, licensed doctor that performs them. (Doctors don't perform abortions, serial killers do.)
How many UNWANTED adopted children do you have? (none)
How many with horrible disfiguring birth defects? (none)
Pretty sure I know the answer to that one. (Hope so, I just told you.)
Until there is not ONE single unwanted, unabused, unneglected child on this planet, I will NEVER stop my quest. (And your quest is to kill people?)
How about you John? What have you done for any child ever? (My boss, Jesus, said not even to tell yourself what good you do – so, I can’t answer.)
You are fighting a useless battle but HEY, keep on battling. (Thanks)
Stupid people do every single day, and look where that gets them. (I know.)
An attorney friend once told me, "You have nothing to fear if you are right and the law is on your side." (That's what Hitler said! Your friend wasn't Hitler was he?)
Guess what John? I am right and the law is on my side. (No, you're wrong.)
You think Howard Stern is fragile and has no impact?? Really? (Yes, really)
Take him on. I dare you. Why don't you find out just how fragile he is? (So, Howie is your hero! Figures.)
If you can get him to agree to your stance, I will leave you in peace. (I wouldn't want that! I like you!. I'm going to transfer this baby to my newsletter.)
But since you are the fragile coward here, I know you won't dare bother him. (He on TV? I don't look good on TV. Too old and ugly.)
You just keep on showing everyone how incredibly bold you are. (It's easy.)
Tell me John, what change have YOU impacted so far? (See above.)
Is the law teetering on the edge of changing in YOUR favor? (yes)
What change have YOU made? (See above.)
How long have you been at this? (Since July 1, 1970. I lived in New York then and NY had just passed a law saying killing young people was all right. A mill opened immediately two miles away. I was the second one there.)
Isn’t' it getting old? (No, horrors don't get old. They increase in intensity till they explode. However, I myself am getting old.)
I'm just curious how much effort you put into NOTHING. (?)

In Number 2 I had just told “vrott” I’d gotten him into a tizzy.

Tizzy ??? Is that even a word ? (Hope not, then I invented it.)
And no, you have no effect on my emotional state. (ha ha)
Your pathetic attempts to insult me are a joke. No.effect. (ha, ha, ha)
the superior trip is a I.find.comical. .And again, I find it very interesting you seem to never have anything to say in response to certain things I say but love to comment on the most insignificant with meaningless comments. (Should I rewrite this one for you, vrott?)
You really believe that imaginary guy is gonna do something ? (sure)
Of course you do. Well why hasn't he ? (Did we already go over this?)
If this is such a travesty, what's he waiting for ? Must be that mysterious ways thing, right ? (You're getting there.)
The world is filled with chaos and injustice , but yet your savior does nothing. (He creates beings in his own image and likeness. Therefore, he gives them free will, lets them do what they want to do. Some, like you and Satan, do bad.)
Religion is the cause of more deaths in this world than all other causes of death combined. (back asswards)
By the way, big surprise u don't believe in evolution. (Well, I don't know. I just wanted to get you into a tizzy.)
It's a proven scientific fact. (The theory of evolution is a fact?)
Religion is.an evil thing created by man . (wrong)
I've personally had extensive religious training and realized the truth behind it. (I shoulda been your teacher. Well, it's not too late.)
That's one.major difference between u and I , I'm a self thinker. (between you and me)
Your a.blind follower who is unable to determine right and wrong.on your own. You need a.book of.lies to.tell u how to think. Maybe you should.climb a mountain and have a.conversation with " the big guy " funny how.he only talks to. Certain individuals in private. Just for .moment, try to ponder the fact that its all bs. Just humor the idea.that your religion is based on lies. How would u feel about the life your living based on lies from the power hungry and lunatics ? I'm guessing your unable to ask that question. Really looking forward to.the day our paths cross. I, unlike you am not a coward. (I really could not get through this last stuff, vrott, with all the bad punctuation, misspellings, grammar errors. You'll have to let me rewrite it.)

Peace and love (you too)

Many of the emails I received, though, were literate, like this one:

Dear Sir: I'm sure you believe that there will be no repercussions from your continued harassment of abortion providers. (I do not harass anyone. I try to get serial killers to stop killing.)
Unfortunately, you are incorrect. (No, you are.)
Your impolite behavior means you will be the recipient of e-mails and phone calls and letters and eventually protests in front of your home, unless your bad behavior ends. (I love the emails and the letters -- so far only five letters; I have to erase the phone calls -- pay per minute; and none of you will ever show up in front of my home, even though I invite you. I serve hot coffee in winter and iced tea in summer.)
Those of us who were brought up with proper manners aren't going away. (You've almost disappeared already!)
We *will* continue to contact you until you learn how to act like a proper grownup. (Promises, promises, all I ever get are promises.)
You are welcome to your opinions, but your behavior is worse than my children on a bad night with too much sugar. (Hey, that's not bad Mara! Want to write for my newsletter?)
Grow up or prepare to get a taste of your own medicine. (See? I knew you'd realize I am dispensing medicine.)
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I believe my new prolife discovery, Al, wrote the following:

No legislature, no court has ever ruled that a preborn human child does not have the right to defend herself. The right to self-defense is inherent in living things. They all do it, from amoeba to blue whale, from microbe to sequoia.
If one has a right to defend oneself, another individual has a legal right (and a moral duty) to do what is reasonably necessary to assist the victim to defend herself. The defender has a right to use the same degree of defensive action that the victim possesses, appropriate to the position of the defender.
Judge Bell denied P.J. Hill the right to present his theory of his defense. Hill may not have understood the legal ins and outs of his position but he certainly understood the principle.
There were at least four licensed attorneys, two licensed in Florida and two from out of state, who volunteered to assist Hill in his defense. Bell denied Hill his choice of counsel, none of whom were public defenders (the state would not have had to pay them). His excuse was that as the case involved the death penalty, out-of-state attorneys would not be familiar with the unique complications of due process in Florida. But what of the two Florida licensed attorneys? Bell refused to allow them to assist Hill either, instead assigning two do-nothing bumps-on-a-log Public Defenders to pretend to defend Hill.
Finally, Bell's excuse, which he stated in open court, was that if Hill's proposed defense prevailed, it would result in "anarchy in the streets."
Deterring anarchy (people doing as they please without regard for the law) is not within the purview of the courts. Anarchy is what we have police, sheriffs and the military to suppress. The court is to ensure that the law is followed in the court and that due process (rules of court procedure) is followed scrupulously. This ensures that the rights of both the accused and of the people are upheld.
Bell bears chief responsibility for the corruption of the criminal justice system of Florida and the murder by the state of Hill. No officer of the state would have laid a hand on Hill to harm him if Bell had dismissed the charges or acquitted him. The Marshals would have taken custody of him and taken him to the federal prison to serve out his sentence for using a weapon to defend innocent children from being molested and murdered. Hill would be free by now (15 years I think)
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Here’s an excerpt from “The Kathy Chronicles”:

The killers’ helpers from Voice of Choice tracked me down. For two weeks they sent me letters, called my cell, emailed my email, and said they would visit me at 204 S. 4th St.. They don’t like it that I visit killers’ homes with the A KILLER LIVES HERE sign. But I enjoy the action, look forward to the arguments, and love to tease their leader, Todd Stave.
Now, though, they’ve found my wife, Margaret – and she don’t like it one bit!
To understand how they found her, we have to go back about ten years, long before I began recording all this nonsense I call “The Kathy Chronicles.” I also have to tell you that my bank account, address, email, and phone number are different from Margaret’s. I separated myself from her that way back in the ‘80s when I heard about Operation Rescue and realized its dangers.
Ten years ago Kathy and I talked frequently. She knew all this and when she got mad at me for something, she “outed” me to the FBI (p. 3, second column, top).
Now she’s “outed” me again, this time to Voice of Choice, and Margaret is getting all the phone calls and threats.
She’s a tricky little lady, this Kathy Kuhn’s. I’ll give her that!

One of those I emailed the above to responded:

Her, . . . I am so sorry to hear that your wife is now being targeted from voice of choice and even sadder to hear that KK may have initiated it?? Is that true?? OMG. Are you kidding me? She contacted VOC?? Whose side is she on????

Me, I'm only 90% sure that it was Kathy but who else could it be? Few others knew of my "protection," and no others had “outed” me before.
Margaret will not even look at her.
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More for Todd Stave:

Yo, Todd, can't you keep this thing [the Voice of Choice blog] up to date? How 'bout if I do it for you under a cognomen.
That switch in phone numbers from 404-706-4375 to 610-796-0627 bombed. I think I got two dozen. What do you expect? You can't get enough people to call one number so you give 'em two? You can't get anybody to visit one address so you give 'em another?
Dang, Todd, my advice is to get out of the killing business and try accounting.
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Hello John, At present, John, I am attempting to get someone here in Australia to set up a web site in my name. One essay I intend to post calls for the use of some graphic images.
I have a small number of photographs here, all in pamphlets, but apart from one they are not what I am after. The one I have which is useful is a photograph of a dismembered baby that is distinguishable by the fact that there is what appears to be a tape measure at the bottom of the photo.
The basic diagram on the reverse side of this paper gives an idea of what I’m after. They do not have to be in the same relative proportions (height to width wise), or even of the same size shown, but photos two and three should be roughly similar to each other. I don’t want a very flat photograph on the side of the page and a narrow tall one on the other.
A typical daily kill factor for the average abortionist is around fifteen. So, in photo number 1 I am looking for an image of at least several aborted babies. Before I was imprisoned I did see one photo which depicted a large size plastic rubbish bag with a couple of aborted babies visible at the top (black and white photos).A photo such as that would also be satisfactory for this purpose.
Photo number two – anything you can find that you think might be suitable.
Photo number three is of course a photograph of an abortionist. It does not have to be Tiller, and it’s probably better if it’s one that has not been taken care of yet. If of someone else, mention his last name.
If you manage to find anything suitable, then it would be best to send it as soon as possible. There has been talk of transforming me to Barwon again before too long, and just occasionally they do tell the truth. Barwon is where I have had trouble finding officials who will issue my mail to me.
Farewell, Peter

I’m looking, Peter. If any of you can help, help.
Under photo #1, Peter will write, “Just another’s days work at the office for your local abortionist”; under #2, “Verdict – guilty, Sentence – Death”; and under #3, “Abortionist Tiller; Verdict – Innocent; “Awarded medal of valour and issued government approved license to murder.”
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Here’s the Pat Richards’ essay I choose this month from the several he posts at abortion.ws:

Sitting in my office one day at the National Coalition of Abortion Providers, I took a call from the administrator of the Cincinnati Women’s Services clinic. She was very upset and through the sobbing I could hear her say things like “pungent smell…the clinic will be closed for days…they made us take our clothes off to scrub us down…”
It was the first time I had heard about butyric acid and it was the beginning of yet another tactic in the campaign of terrorism against abortion clinics. When the administrator regained her composure, she told me how when she approached the clinic that morning she could smell something from the parking lot that smelled “like one of those high school chemistry experiments.” The smell got worse as she got closer and when she opened the door, it was like a “wave” hit her. Other staff followed her in and, despite the horrific smell, they started calling the police and their patients.
Unfortunately, the local police had no idea what to do but when officials from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms arrived, they immediately diagnosed the problem.
They ordered everyone out of the building, set up make-shift outdoor showers and ordered all the staff to take off their clothes to get scrubbed down. They then started the multi-day clean up of the building, which ultimately cost the owners a lot of money because they had no insurance for such an incident.
Butyric acid is a clear, colorless liquid with an unpleasant, rancid, vomit-like odor. Anti-abortion extremists began using it as a weapon against abortion facilities in early 1992. The goal, of course, was to disrupt services, close the clinic, and harass patients and staff. Depending on the amount used, the butyric acid could cause thousands of dollars of damage, requiring clinics to replace carpeting, furniture, and conduct extensive cleanup of the facility. Even after the cleanup, the smell remained months after the incident.
Over the years, there were about 100 butyric acid attacks throughout the United States and Canada, causing in excess of $1 million in damages. From May to July 1998, nineteen abortion clinics in Florida, Louisiana, and Texas were hit with butyric acid, which the perpetrator simply injected through the keyhole of the clinic’s front door with a syringe. Clinic staff and patients were sent to hospitals with respiratory problems and nausea.
The problem in those days was that the federal government had no jurisdiction to prosecute those who were involved in these attacks, so they had to rely on state and local officials whose inquiries were limited because the investigators could not cross state lines to pursue links among the crimes. And, candidly, many local officials just didn’t give a darn if the local abortion clinic had some problems.
Finally, however, after passage of the FACE Act, federal grand juries in Oregon and Eastern California returned indictments in 30 cases against Rachelle “Shelly” Shannon, who is now sitting in a jail in Kansas on state charges for the attempted murder of Wichita physician George Tiller in 1993. In 1995, she was sentenced to 20 more years by Federal District Court Judge James Redden who, when sentencing her, called her a “terrorist.” The sentence was set to begin only after Shannon’s 10-year incarceration for shooting Tiller is completed.
History often repeats itself, so I believe it’s important to remind (or, in many cases, inform) those who are reading this blog of the days when the violence was rampant, when clinics and their workers were under regular attack by domestic terrorists. So, on a regular basis I will continue to share and document the stories of those horrible days.
We cannot forget the past. And we must remain vigilant.

One reason I look forward to Pat’s stuff is it often hits home; I have my own butyric acid story. Years ago, when I lived on Long Island, a friend received by mistake two or three mayonnaise jars filled with the stuff. One had cracked and the package stunk to high heaven. He called me, screaming. I wrapped everything in several plastic bags, and headed for Jones Beach, deserted in January. I parked near a trash receptacle and opened the trunk. The stink gagged me. and I heard a growing hum. I looked up to see so many gulls they blackened the sky and scared me to death. I escaped alive, obviously.
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National Right to Life distributed its annual money appeal. Neal Horsley and Brad-Marcy Riegg are not pleased:

I've finally understood why God allows organizations like the National Right To Life to exist and Operation Rescue and the myriad other Christian Pro-life organizations that suck millions of dollars out of the Body of Christ each year but do nothing to stop the government that has legalized the slaughter of unborn babies. As the NRTF ad below proves, God wants to use those orgs to show everybody on earth exactly what the word "delusion" means in its 2 Thess. 2 context. Neal

Indeed- The first step toward healing and sanity is admitting one's faults and shortcomings. It will be necessary for the 'pro-life movement' to admit that it has hardly stemmed the bloodshed at all (still thousands per day are surgically torn asunder) before there can be healing and sanity in this land.
Lord, please help us to admit our lack of success, rather than to boast of our trivialities, as though they were great, godly deeds. And, then, help us to conquer the deceptions and deceivers that have led to the killing of these innocent ones. Brad-Marcy

Yes, we have hardly stemmed the bloodshed at all, and to broadcast, even to remember, our few successes should be an embarrassment.
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Stacey and Hutch’s adventures continue. Call me if you think you’ve figured it out.

Red Zone II

Be Still And Know That I Am God

Earlier S&H had their first encounter with the Red Zone (bar closing until first garbage truck, small towns) and they quailed at the thought. But with time they learned to function in the Red Zone with sufficient confidence. The key to it was trust in God . . . and lots of prayer.
Tagging switches is either a righteous thing to do, or it is not. And you shouldn’t be doing it. Long after the first blush of success had passed, S&H would still occasionally entertain legitimate doubts about what they were doing.
Occasionally, fellow exchange union workers would grumble that the tagging was souring relationships with management.
Most workers did not take that position and instead were grateful for the tagging because it was a 24/7 witness to all passersby about what was happening inside that exchange. Most people, ignorant and lazy, never thought about it enough to realize any equipment or human aid was necessary to connect their telephone to any other specific one.
Most workers believed that the few workers who complained about the tagging were, at minimum, simply cowards, or too lazy to get out of bed, or, worse, secret toadies to management.
But the tag loyal workers did not want to make a big deal about it. Let all flowers bloom, and keep picketing, and don’t criticize another man’s servant, was their attitude.
S&H quickly found out that to be really, really in the Red Zone in a small town was a scary thing. They realize that there was a name for people who do not respect the Red zone – “arrested.”
But as time went on, they realized that the reason that they had never been arrested was not due to cleverness, or discipline, or careful study of target neighborhoods, or the “doughnut” practice (put a doughnut centered on your hometown on a national map, and never tag inside the “doughnut”) or anyone of a hundred other Bourne Identity tricks of the trade.
The reason they’d never been arrested is that during those times of seeming inevitable near misses, God had worked a “little” miracle to keep them alive.

Guardian Angels Working Overtime

When these little miracles happened, it was almost as scary as the Red zone itself.
One time S&H were standing in the middle of a large parking lot, just about at the beginning of the red Zone. They were studying a switch, and watching any comings and goings as they did so, as part of a pre-con. In other words they were doing everything “right” rather than just rushing up to tag.
When you do that, you always run the risk that you miss the little old lady who stays up all night and watchers . . . anything from behind a curtain. You miss the fact that the exchange is in the same block as a police substation, or across the street from a bank with an all-night security guard, or a hotel with an all-night desk. All of these, please God, are detectable, but re-con is best.
So, anyway, here were S&H “minding their own business,” standing in a parking lot, and two city cops came roaring up on them, on motorbikes, out of the blue (or the black).
In the seconds that it took to happen, visions of their children passed through their eyes – we’re gonna get busted. (tbc)
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I had to cut Jimbo short above because I just found something I thought I’d lost, “The New Abortion Providers.” The fellow who sent it to me said it will be the most important article for “Abortion is Murder” in ten years!

The New Abortion Providers

On a clear and mild March day in 1993, the Operation Rescue leader Randall Terry spoke at a rally in southern Florida against abortion. "We've found the weak link is the doctor," he told the crowd. "We're going to expose them. We're going to humiliate them." A few days later, Dr. David Gunn, an abortion provider, was shot and killed outside his clinic in Pensacola, Fla., about 500 miles away. It was the first of eight such murders, the extreme edge of what has become an anti-abortion strategy of confrontation.
Terry Understood that focusing on abortion providers was possible because they had become increasingly isolated from mainstream medicine. That was not what physicians themselves anticipated after the Supreme Court's 1973 decision in Roe v. Wade. An open letter signed by 100 professors of obstetrics and gynecology predicted that free-standing clinics would be unnecessary if half of the 20,000 obstetricians in the country would do abortions for their patients, and if hospitals would handle "their proportionate share." OB-GYNs at the time emphasized that abortion was a surgical procedure and fell under their purview.
But then most of the OB-GYNs left the stage. After Roe, the shadow of the greedy, butchering "abortionist" continued to hover, and many doctors didn't want to stand in it. As mainstream medicine backed away, feminist activists stepped in. They set up stand-alone clinics to care for women in their moments of crisis. In many ways, the clinics were a rebel-sister success story. Instead of a sterile and expensive hospital operating room, patients could go to a low-cost clinic with pastel walls and sympathetic staff members. At a Planned Parenthood I visited recently in Rochester, while women were having abortions, they could look at photos of a Caribbean beach, taped above them on the ceiling.
But the clinics also truly came to stand alone. In 1973, hospitals made up 80 percent of the country's abortion facilities. By 1981, however, clinics outnumbered hospitals, and 15 years later, 90 percent of the abortions in the U.S. were performed at clinics. The American Medical Association did not maintain standards of care for the procedure. Hospitals didn't shelter them in their wings. Being a pro-choice, doctor came to mean referring your patients to a clinic rather than doing abortions in your own office.
This was never the feminist plan. "The clinics' founders didn't intend them to become virtually the only settings for abortion services in many communities," says Carole Joffe, a sociologist and author of a history of the era, "Doctors of Conscience," and a new book, "Dispatches From the Abortion Wars." When the clinics became the only place in town to have an abortion, they became an easy mark for extremists. As Joffe told me, "The violence was possible because the relationship of medicine to abortion was already tenuous.'' The medical profession reinforced the outsider status of the clinics by not speaking out strongly after the first attacks. As abortion moved to the margins of medical practice, it also disappeared from residency programs that produced new doctors. In 1995, the number of OB-GYN residencies offering abortion training fell to a low of 12 percent.
"Under pressure and stigma, more doctors shun abortion," wrote David Grimes, a leading researcher and abortion provider of 38 years, in a widely cited 1992 medical journal article called "Clinicians Who Provide Abortions: The Thinning Ranks." In a 1992 survey of QB-GYNs, 59 percent of those age 65 and older said that they performed abortions, compared with 28 percent of those age 50 and younger. The National Abortion Federation started warning about "the graying of the abortion provider.'' In the decade after Roe the number of sites providing abortion across the country almost doubled from about 1,500 to more than 2,900 according to the Gutmacher Institute. But by 2000 the number shrank back to about 1,800 – a decline of 37 percent from 1982.

There’s another side of the story, however – a deliberate and concerted counteroffensive that has gone largely unremarked. Over the last decade, abortion-rights advocates have quietly worked to reverse the marginalization encouraged by activists like Randall Terry. Abortion rights proponents are fighting back on precisely the same turf that Terry demarcated: the place of abortion within mainstream medicine. The abortion-rights campaign, led by physicians themselves, is trying to recast doctors, changing them from a weak link of abortion to a strong one. Its leaders have built residency programs and fellowships at university hospitals, with the hope that, eventually, more and more doctors will use their training to bring abortion into their practices. The bold idea at the heart of this effort to integrate abortion so that it’s a seamless part of health care for women – embraced rather than shunned. (tbc)

Abortion is Murder, 9-10, January, 2012

2011-11-30T16:27:00.000-08:00

Formerly Stop the Killing of Young People (skyp) and soon, perhaps, Stop Killing Preemies

January, 2012 Vol. 9 No. 9
PO Box 7424, Reading, PA 19603
Phone – 484-706-4375
Email – johndunk@ptd.net
Web – skyp1.blogspot.com
Circulation – 651
John Dunkle, Editor

Abortion is Murder, a weak, pathetic response to baby murder, is sent out at least once a month. If the gestapo hasn’t jailed you for defending the innocent realistically, you either have to tell me you want it or go to the website. Faxes and emails are free but snail-mail is free only for PFCs, $100 for others.
Because I believe we should examine every legitimate means, including force, in our attempt to protect those being tortured to death, I want to hear from people who’ve been forceful and from those who defend them.. I’d also like to hear from those prolifers and pro-deathers who call force violence.

Prisoners for Christ:

1. Evans, Paul Ross 83230-180, USP McCreary, P.O. Box 3000, Pine Knot, KY 42635
2. Gibbons, Linda, Vanier WDC, 655 Martin St., P.O. Box 1040, Milton, ON, Canada L9T 5E6
3. Griffin, Michael 310249, 5914 Jeff Ates Rd., Milton, FL 32583-0000
4. Jordi, Stephen 70309-004, FCI P.O. Box 33, Terre Haute IN 47802 6/30
5. Knight, Peter James, P.O. Box 376, Laverton, Victoria, Australia
6. Kopp, James 11761-055, USP Canaan, P.O. Box 300, 3057 Easton Tpk., Waymart, PA 18472
7. Little, David SJRCC, 930 Old Black River Road, Saint John, NB E2J 4T3
8. Moose, Justin 27494-057 FCI Talladega, P.O. Box 1000, Talladega, AL 35160
9. Richardson, Alonzo Lee 12898-021, FCI Pollock Federal Correctional Institution, P.O. Box 4050, Pollock, LA 71467
10. Roeder, Scott P. 65192, PO Box 2, Lansing Kansas 66043
11. Ross, Michael, Custer County Jail, 1010 Main St., Miles City, Montana 59301
12. Rudolph, Eric 18282-058 US Pen. Max, Box 8500, Florence CO 81226-8500
13. Shannon, Rachelle 59755-065, FCI Waseca, Unit A, P.O. Box 1731, Waseca, MN 56093 3/31
14. Waagner, Clayton Lee 17258-039, United States Penitentiary, P.O. Box 1000, Lewisburg PA 17837

Even though it’s a shameful sin to abandon defenseless victims to their attackers, it’s a far worse sin when you attempt to pass the blame for that sin onto God by claiming that’s what he wanted you to do. And that’s precisely what so many people have done with their rejection of God’s clear and sensible instructions to defend the defenseless, and with their pretenses and fake excuses for rejecting those instructions. Pride is a terrible thing when it leads you to deny your own sin and instead say that God sinned. Peter James Knight
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Todd Stave, who runs Voice of Choice and who rents his abortuary to Leroy Carhart so that Leroy can torture to death the older kids, is after me, as you know:

Follow up to Allentown Women's Center Project

Dear supporters and volunteers, It is my pleasure to report that the Allentown project is going very well. I am getting emails from volunteers who believe John and Joyce are getting the message. Please be assured that if we cannot convince them that what they are doing is not acceptable we have Phase II planned.

Here are a few things that I am hearing:
• John's and Joyce's voicemail mailboxes are full. Again, please do not leave messages. If they do not answer, try again at another time. A sustained approach over time is an advantage to us.
• John and Joyce are telling some callers that they are calling the police. Calling people to talk with them - in a non-threatening manner -- about things they are doing is not a crime, even if it is not invited.
• They are scoffing at the idea that we will follow thru on plans to counter protest. So far, you have shown a huge willingness to help victims in need. I have no doubt that if we need to proceed to Phase II we will get all the support needed to deliver our message.
For those of you who want to be sure you are working with someone in need of our help, the following links have been provided by Jen Boulanger.
Dunkle protesting outside the clinic:
http://www.youtube.com/user/BullyWatch009#p/u/3/cwJgO6UGuB4

John Dunkle outside the doctor's house:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIizCkJ-We4

Joyce Mazalewski can be seen starting at about 1:03 on this video (the baby road kill comments):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91RRAQtc16g

Please remember to stay on message. Do not argue with them. Do not debate the issue of abortion with them. Be kind and polite in your tone, regardless of how agitated they may seem. Do not use foul language. Do not be threatening in any way, even if they attempt to bait you.
You have not all had a turn to speak with them, so please keep trying until you get through.
Thank you all again. Please keep spreading the word.

By the time this arrived, the “Allentown Women’s Center Project” had petered down to nothing.
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With his project Stave flushed out a thousand killers’ helpers. The only one of the thousand to talk to me for a while was “info.” Info sent me a report of my 2007 court trial to prove his point that I am a terrorist. I responded:

Thanks, info. There are mistakes in here that could lead to trouble. I meant to go on record to fix them, but forgot. Thank God you reminded me. First I'll fix them here and then transfer this to my January newsletter.

On Aug. 28, 2007, the U.S. Justice Department filed a civil lawsuit against John Dunkle, an anti-abortion activist from Reading, Pennsylvania, seeking injunctive relief for alleged violations of the Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances Act ("FACE"), 18 U.S.C. § 248. (true)

According to the complaint, Dunkel posted messages on his webpage and blog encouraging readers to kill an abortion provider by shooting her in the head.
(My name is spelled "Dunkle." No "messages" but a single message written by Dave Branca. When I got this from him, I said, "Dave, this is incendiary. If I post this [and I post everything both in favor of and opposed to our using force in the abortion war] the feds will visit me for sure. If you still want me to post it, I will have to tell them who you are. Still want me to post it?"
"Yes," he said.
I posted, they visited, and I told.)

The postings allegedly targeted a former clinician at the Philadelphia Women's Center and included her name, home address, and photograph, along with instructions about how to kill her and avoid detection.
(The true statements here are "a former clinician," her name, and instructions on how to kill her. By the time I met Mary Blanks, she had left the medical profession to become a serial killer. Dave named her and suggested a way to stop her, but there was no home address, photograph, or instructions about how to avoid detection.)

The complaint alleged that Dunkle's postings constituted a "threat of force to injure, intimidate and interfere with a person providing reproductive health services" in violation of FACE. (true)

The government moved for a preliminary injunction, requiring Dunkle to remove the postings in question and prohibiting him from posting the same or similar messages in the future. (true)

Dunkle, acting as his own legal counsel, filed a response to the motion for injunctive relief and a motion to dismiss. (true)

He argued that his writings were not "threats" under FACE and also maintained that some of the content was posted by a third party.
(The content at issue was all written by a third party.)

The government contested Dunkle's claims, including his argument that the postings were not legally cognizable as "threats" under the statute. (true)

On Nov. 8, 2007, after an evidentiary hearing, U.S. District Judge Thomas Golden granted a permanent injunction, ordering Dunkle to remove the postings and barring him from posting similar messages in the future. The injunction contains the following statement: "Nothing in this Order shall prohibit Defendant from picketing, creating, publishing and disseminating anti-abortion information so long as such activities do not constitute illegal threats and elicit violence." The court also denied Dunkle's motion to dismiss as moot.
(True, and since moot means arguable, the case might be still open.)
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Al responds to part of Todd Stave’s emaiI that I posted in the December issue of AIM:Let them know:

1) Protesting in front of people's homes is not acceptable.
Yes, it is, as long as we protest on your whole block. Don't like it? Tough. Stop murdering little children and you'll never see us again. Your neighbors don't like it? Tough. They can pressure you to quit murdering little children, or to move out of the neighborhood.

2) Harassing people at their places of work is not acceptable
True. But picketing the entire block where you work IS acceptable, at least to the courts and the police. Don't like it? Quit your "job" of murdering little children.

3) We respect your opinions, but condemn your behavior
Don't believe the former, and don't care about the latter. We just consider the source: a degenerate, hell-bound, child-molesting and abusing serial child murderer. You have no moral foundation from which to condemn anything.

4) If you choose to continue to protest people at their homes and workplaces, you can expect protests at your homes and workplaces.
So? Think we care? We don't "protest people" anyway. Just what are you going to protest? That we follow the law and the court rulings? That we love little children and want child abusers to stop murdering them? That we love mothers and encourage them to love their children and keep them away from bloody child-molesting murderers?
Just remember one thing: No legislature, no court has ever ruled that a preborn human child does not have the right to defend herself. The right to self-defense is inherent in living things. They all do it, from amoeba to blue whale, from microbe to sequoia.
When government agents set themselves above and against the law, they become criminals. The Nuremberg Principle 4: "The fact that a person acted pursuant to order of his Government or of a superior does not relieve him from responsibility under international law, provided a moral choice was in fact possible to him," or "It is not an acceptable excuse to say 'I was just following my superior's orders.'"
That corrupt judges have ignored the law and denied due process to one who has acted to defend an innocent person when she is incapable of defending herself does not change the law. Neither does it excuse those who act pursuant to such a corrupt judge's advice and break the law. Corrupt judges were hanged, as were some of the ones who carried out their decrees.
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Looks as if Todd Stave’s campaign is now defunct. Here’s what I told him:

Hi Todd, your bombardment lasted for about a week – about a thousand phone calls, emails, and letters. I expected more. Most just copied and pasted the four statements you wrote for them. The four or five who went off on their own quit after an exchange or two (very disappointing).
I haven't stopped holding prayer vigils in front of the homes of Jen Boulanger, Sondra Dantzic, Charles Benjamin, John Roizin, Jay Sivitz, and Joel Lebed, but y'all quit anyway; and, your "threat" of holding your own prayer vigils outside my home never materialized. What do I have to do to get back into your bad graces?

Don't let Howard Stern know what little impact he has. The man is fragile. John Dunkle
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Oops! I spoke too soon. Here’s what Todd just emailed me, with my responses in parentheses:

Allentown still needs help (Does it ever.)

Dear supporters and volunteers,
I am writing with unfortunate news. (sweet)
Our respectful requests to John Dunkle to stop his aggressive behavior have not achieved our goal. (No, they have not.)
He continues to protest in front of the homes of the Allentown Women's Center executive director and doctor. (Yes, I continue to.)
He has not gotten the message that his behavior is not acceptable. (Not yet, anyway.)
So, as promised we must start Phase II of the Allentown Project. (ha, ha, ha,)
It will take a few weeks to organize phase II and the delay is compounded by the fact we are asking for people's time during the holiday season. (ha, ha, ha)
So, until we are ready to begin phase II I am asking that each of you continue to call and email Mr. Dunkle. (Thanks, Todd.)
I am asking that each of you email and call to John. (You just said that!)
Please do not leave any voice messages and when you do speak with him be polite and kind in your message. (Many do leave voice messages, and most are polite and kind.)
Do not argue and respect his opinions. (yes)
Let him know:
1) Protesting in front of people's home is not acceptable (Yes it is.)
2) We respect your opinions, but condemn your behavior (OK)
3) If you choose to continue the home and personal protests you can expect protests in front of your home. (never happen)
4) We will continue to call to wish you a Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, Happy MLK day, Happy Valentine's Day, Happy Ground Hog's day ... etc. (no happy holiday? thank God)
John Dunkle's phone number is 484-706-4375. His email is johndunk@ptd.net and his home address is 204 S 4th Street, Reading, PA 19602. (yes)
He has told callers in the past that he is calling the police (nope, never did and never have)
and scoffed at our ability and determination. (That's for sure.)
Be assured that what we are doing is not illegal. (I don't think it is either.)
and that his petulant behavior is evidence that he is getting the message. (I am excited, pleased to be the focus of your attention, but not petulant. I get petulant only when I cannot find something.)
Also, please email Members@vochoice.org if you are in the Allentown, PA or Philadelphia, PA areas and are willing to help in Phase II in Allentown. (Hey! Reading, Reading, not Allentown!)
Let me know how much time you can commit and what your schedule allows. (I'm free all the time, except between 12/6 and 12/14 when I'll be in California -- and since I am the only one who will show up, that's all you need to know.)
If you are not in central PA and are still willing to help, I will need to find a few people to vet volunteers and coordinate schedules. (I can put up three for a few days if they are willing to stay in tight quarters.)
Please let me if you are willing to help in the administration aspects of Phase II. (Count me in. My info's above.)

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Here’s more talk between Al and Neal about the prolife use of force. Brad joins them:

Al, "President Obama...asked both sides in the abortion debate to try harder to find common ground."
"Common ground?" What?
It is the government's failure to punish the murderers of preborn children that creates this situation. If the government was upholding the law (start at Article I, sections 9 & 10) private defenders and self-appointed administrators of justice would not be stepping into the breach.
The government of Kansas created this situation by failing to prosecute and punish Tiller (and other abortionists). Tiller, like any other criminal suspect, was entitled to due process of law before (upon due proof) being penalized for his murders. The government officers of Kansas created the situation that resulted in his being denied due process and being summarily executed by a vigilante.
Pro-lifers would only be searching out secret abortionists and reporting them to the proper authorities, who would then go in, arrest, prosecute, convict them and subject them to the penalty for multiple first degree murder.

The old law dictionaries defined "abortionist" as one who solicits or perpetrates the crime of abortion. The one who solicits abortion is the mother. Both aborting mother and the butcher [Moloch child-sacrifice priest] fall within the definition.

Neal, Common Ground at the gallows! How's that for a slogan.

Al, Though the Nuremberg Trials were deeply flawed as criminal trials, the chief principle established, that one cannot invoke, "I was just doing my duty"; "I was ordered to do it," and the like as proof against being personally held to account for egregious conduct. That one's own life, or that one's own loved one’s lives, may be forfeit if one refuses to carry out orders to commit heinous crimes is at best a mitigating factor at sentencing, not a full excuse for such conduct.

Neal, The response I've gotten to "The Old Rugged Cross Today" is that people are not ignoring the "babies death bound."
That is exactly like someone watching a woman being raped and saying to the other people watching that rape is bad and those men should not be raping the woman is not, still, a kind of ignoring the duty to actively intervene to stop the rape. I think it is that twist in logic that explains how Christians in this nation can believe they are alright with God simply because they let themselves see that the woman is being raped and that rape is a bad thing. Such cowardice is exactly the grounds of collaboration that many were convicted for at Nuremberg. The fault of Nuremberg was there was no indictment issued for the whole German people who were not either killed or incarcerated for resisting the Nazi explosion.
Jonathan any ideas for an image that graphically demonstrates there is an ignorance involved in allowing a crime to occur even when it is admitted that the crime exists and that it is bad.

Al, Even if there was a collective responsibility of the German people, that does not carry down to individuals.
Many of the "German" people were not Germans ethnically. Many who were citizens of Germany by normal standards had left Germany, such as Jews, who were almost all gone from Germany by 1939 yet remained German citizens.
Many citizens of Germany, born in Germany, were Czechs, Slovaks, Poles, Gypsies, French, Dutch, and other non-Germans ethnically but German citizens all the same.
Many people who were German citizens were not allowed to vote. Children under 21 could not vote. Women had only gotten the right to vote in 1918, and Hitler came to power only 15 years later, before a large part of German women had become accustomed to voting. Once Hitler had consolidated his grip on power, he abolished voting.
Hitler instituted strict gun control.
His Brownshirts dealt harshly with "grumblers" and opponents of the regime. They later were shot and replaced by the SS.
Do you seriously believe the German population should have risen against such a ruthless regime? The Hitler gang was supported by the military, for he had returned them to glory and power.

Neal, Not only do I seriously believe it, Al, I can point out the actual time in reality when the German Christian opposition to Hitler could have prevented the Nazis from coming to power had the Christian coalition that was developing to stop him not been undermined by the Catholic Pope's decision to tell the Catholics to stand down and guaranteed the Catholic collaboration with Hitler by signing a Concordat with Hitler promising to provide special treatment to German Catholics in return for the political decision allow the Nazis to come to power. Those historical facts are there for anyone to see. It's just that men like you Al don't want to face the fact that God has put into our hands the power to control this world because to gain that power we must be willing to sacrifice our own lives. But if we lack the will or the balls or whatever to seize the power to rule this world, it's not God who gets blamed for it, but us, each and every one of us as individual men. For further proof of my point, look closely at who God chooses to punish for the refusal to prevent Satan from ruling this world: it's individuals, Al, not societies. Society is an abstraction that does not exist except as a figment of the imagination of individuals when you remove the individual from it.

Brad, Neal-That's an interesting point. Now you're making me re-think this. In the Bible God judges whole nations, as well, but He always(?) does so only when also rescuing a remnant of true believers out of the judged nation. Is that right? Does He never slay the innocent (David's children?). Wanting to understand this better,

Neal, Brad, the fact that God always saved a remnant before Christ was the same reason God saved a remnant after Christ: to be both forerunner and afterrunner to validate the truth revealed in Holy Scripture about the Messiah. So the matter of God saving a remnant is not the same question as the one Al raised which refers to whether or not the individual is responsible for the sins of the group that individual is a part of.
You raise a different question: the question of God's dealing with innocent people.
The answer to your question requires understanding that there is no "innocent" who are born and have reached the age of accountability. Never have been since Adam and Eve fell. We are all born in sin. By God's grace our sins are not held to our account when we are children whose child faith in Christ saves them. In other words, the only "innocent" we can see are the babies not yet born who are in Christ by default because they have not sinned, and/or those born who have not reached the age of accountability for their sins. Said again: whether we are born and have reached what they used to call the age of accountability or not is the only criteria that explains our relationship with Christ. Once we have reached the age of accountability, repentance and faith in Christ that leads to walking in the Spirit instead of the flesh is the only way to be saved from the curse of the law. This is not Neal Horsley speaking; this is historic orthodox Christianity--except for those who taught that Baptism itself was required for salvation--that became submerged in the morass of confusion created when Christians began to pretend they could be all right with God without giving their lives in defense of the least of His children if those children were at risk of death. That last point means that were I on a Jury of a woman who chose her own life over the life of her child when it was a choice of her or her child, I would admit she had the right of self-defense in this world, but I would be very concerned that if she did not repent to die in Christ, God would count her an unrepentant murderer on Judgment Day, like the vast majority of Christians in this nation are at risk of being counted because of their negligent disregard (even as they pretend they are not ignoring them) of the plight of the babies being led to death.
See what I'm trying to point out?

Brad, So, to be sure that I understand you, are you saying that if a person does not actually give up his own life (or be incarcerated in the attempt to do so) in the defense of a person who is being murdered, he does not have a saving-faith, but rather has a damnable faith?
Put another way, are you saying that our faith is known by our works, and if our works do not include the actual giving up of one's life (or liberty) in doing his best to rescue someone being threatened with murder, then our faith is not the kind of faith that saves one's own life?

Neal, Brad, you asked, "are you saying that if a person does not actually give up his own life (or be incarcerated in the attempt to do so) in the defense of a person who is being murdered, he does not have a saving-faith, but rather has a damnable faith? “
Your words make it sound like there is no difference between being willing to do something and actually doing it. Hardly any soldiers are asked to be Kamikazes but all soldiers are asked to be willing to die if that's what the battle requires. I say that men of God who do not make their willingness to die in defense of babies being led to death are examples of cowards and no soldiers at all, certainly not Christian soldiers. Paul Hill and I actually agreed on something Brad, something that was the basis for our fellowship. Paul Hill demonstrated the validity of his commitment to this battle. I am committed and am looking for other men who are equally committed.
I am not involved in an abstract theological discussion about the number of angels can be put on the head of a pin. I am involved in trying to stop this nation from butchering God's children.
But to answer your question about who will be damned, I don't have the duty of Judging on Judgment Day, so I am not in a position to speak for the Lord on that matter of what He will do with this generation of American Christians. I have the duty of being an example of what a man of God is supposed to be in this generation.
Here's what I do know. I do know that in the history of the ancient Church when the Lapsi Christians decided God allowed them to stand around and do nothing but burn incense to Caesar, or curse Jesus, or whatever Caesar's command of the day required while Caesar went about butchering in the most gruesome manner imaginable generations of Christians who refused to serve Caesar even if it meant they had to die for their refusal, those Lapsi Christians were eventually forced to publically repent in this world for their collaboration with Caesar or they were not allowed to have access to the Lord's Table. That is a historical fact. And the meaning of that fact was clear: God had the Churches who were led by those who survived the persecution without bowing to Ceasar gang up to bring the Lapsi Christians under conviction for the way they had acted while they claimed to be Christians in good standing with the Lord as an example of what would happen to them if they did not repent. While there was much turmoil about other matters in the churches, turmoil that led to grave disagreements and even bloodshed, nobody in the churches tried to defend what the Lapsi had done except to allow them return to the Table if they repented in whatever form the local churches demanded. If the Lapsi refused to repent, the refusal of access to the Table was the churches way of announcing they believed the Lapsi would go to hell because access to the Table was access to the Body and Blood of the Lord Jesus Christ. Those without access to Him were hell bound.
To me it looks like the Lapsi have returned and taken over this generation of Christians. In other words, I believe I am surrounded by a world of Christians who have decided all God requires from them when this government decides to sanction the butchering of the least of God's children is talk about being opposed to abortion then go about enjoying the benefits of this society, train their children to do the same, and become livid if anyone suggests their worship of the Lord is an exercise in vainglory that has nothing to do with following the example of the Apostles and the Lord Jesus Christ and could possibly even land them in hell.
So I'm saying as clear as I know how, Brad, my actions are designed to show God I'm willing to do whatever is necessary to avoid being an example of the Lapsi. I am willing to even die fighting to stop it if that is what has not been done yet in God's movement to stop this legalized murder. And that obviously has not been done yet. That's why I say it's what is to come next or we make the world think Jesus Christ is a cowardly hypocrite who cares more about our children than He does about the babies being legally butchered by their mothers.
That is a lie. God so loved the world...not just the children of Christians.
If I do not continue advocating the strategy I embody I believe I would be overcome with fear at the cowardly example I would make of myself.
Nothing frightens me more that being told on Judgment Day that the Lord doesn't know me. To date my fear is under control because I believe the Lord knows that were Christians to decide to help me form an army to fight this evil to the death, I would not shrink back.
So you decide what I believe about works and faith and theology and Jesus Christ because what it all comes down for me is to demonstrate to the Lord I know what it means to walk in His Spirit and not in the flesh. To me, that is what salvation consists of. All else, as Salomon noticed, is vanity.
To walk in the Spirit of Jesus Christ is to arrest the outlaws as the first step in leading people to Him. If we fail to do that, we are lawbreakers--outlaws--ourselves. Christian outlaws. I spent years telling thousands of outlaws, most of whom were churched people, that if they trusted people who told them they could get to heaven being unrepentant outlaws, they would go to hell. I say that same thing today if anybody will listen.
Is this generation of Christians breaking the law by mouthing their opposition to abortion yet refusing to even consider going to war to stop it? I know we all can foresee the babies being killed tomorrow and the next days. The matter of foreseeability is the basis for conviction of negligence, in this case of negligent homicide.
Christians today believe they can foresee the inevitable slaughter of the least of God's children yet not have blood guilt when they merely mouth words rather than take up arms to stop people being led to death. I think they are deluding themselves and risking hell for themselves and their children.
Jesus set His face like flint. So did the Apostles. As the Lord mentioned, He could call down the hosts of heaven to fight for Him if that was what was required. It was not required then. I suggest it is exactly what is required next and explain exactly how we are to do it http://www.aogusa.org.
You decide, Brad, whether God will allow unrepentant Christian outlaws into heaven. What you decide, unless you repent of making the wrong decision, will be accounted against you on Judgment Day. I know how many theologians have put their walls around Christians teaching them they don't have to be afraid of being sent to hell on Judgment Day. I don't put up that wall because I know too much about hell to take any chances presuming to grant people a license that might end up being revoked by the Lord who, after all, will do His Trinitarian Will and no one else's on Judgment Day. I think that's why Paul said we were to work out our salvation with fear and trembling because some things will not be known until That Day and anyone who presumes to speak for the Lord on things the Lord has reserved for Himself on that Day is an example of the sin of presumption.

Brad, Thanks, Neal. Well put. May we all be counted faithful to do God’s will.
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Dear John, Please make sure the Voice for Choice people get my last two letters (Story of Roe & Two Myths About Roe) with your newsletter. That way they can be educated. This way they will find out the truth that the Voice for Choice is really a voice for a sharp pair of pruning shears hiding behind the big white sign that says "Choice" to ensure abatement in case voluntary measures fail to satisfy objectives. For "Choice" is used not only as a beckoning call to persuade women to abort voluntarily as the path of least resistance for controlling their pregnancies, it is also used as a deceptive guise to make the public believe all abortions are truly voluntary in the United States.
From reading your last newsletter, I thought Kathy might be interested in the story of American hero Sgt. Meyer. So here it is.
Sgt. Dakota Meyer was a U.S. Marine stationed in Afghanistan, a corporal at the time. His fellow Americans were ambushed. Meyer wanted to save them, but American military officers commissioned by the President of the United States ordered him NOT to save those American lives. At first Meyer hesitated to save them, because he respected that disobeying the orders of one's superiors is not to be taken lightly. So instead of taking matters into his own hands, at first he pleaded with his superiors to reverse themselves on that decision. But in the end they told him, "Stare decisis. The decision shall stand."
At that point, Sgt. Meyer decided to disregard the orders of his superiors by saving American lives instead. In effect, he decided on his own initiative that "semper fi" (always faithful) trumped "stare decisis" (the decision shall stand). He decided that it was more faithful to save American lives than to obey the orders of his superiors not to, and so he put his own life on the line to save them.
For his act of courage, by act of the U.S. Congress, President Obama bestowed the Medal of Honor on Sgt. Dakota Meyer, which is the nation's highest military honor. So from this we see two elements: one is that Americans really do have the courage to save American lives, even when it means disregarding the orders of their superiors;and, second is that even the president himself can honor the heroism of those who put American lives before the orders of their superiors, even when those superiors are commissioned as officers by the president.
So what would Kathy have to say to about this? Should we condemn Sgt. Meyer for taking matters into his own hands by saving American lives even when it meant defying orders from his superiors? Should he have prayed and fasted instead, being obedient to the orders of his superiors, while American lives were at stake? Or should we honor Meyer's courage for taking matters into his own hands instead, to save American lives, even though it meant defying the orders of his superiors?
There is a parallel in this to what Scott Roeder did to save American lives. At first he hesitated, because our superiors at the U.S. Supreme Court have ordered us not to save American lives. So he pleaded for them to reverse themselves on that decision. But they refused, saying, "Stare decisis. The decision shall stand." It was at that point that Roeder defied orders by going into action to save American lives, while risking his own in the process. The truth be told, Roeder single-handedly saved the lives of more American children than have all of our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan combined.
So why is it that President Obama did not give Mr. Roeder a medal to recognize the nation's appreciation for his courage in saving American lives in defiance of the orders of his superiors, like he did for Sgt. Meyer? The answer is a simple one.
Even though Americans really do have the courage to save American lives, including when it means defying orders and risking their own lives, and even though our nation's leaders really can honor the courage it takes to do so, the problem is that very few Americans ultimately have the courage to face the flood of unwanted pregnancies that will flood our churches, schools, and homes as soon as anyone makes it too difficult for abortion doctors to practice. This difference explains why Sgt. Meyer is hailed as a hero, and Scott Roeder is jailed as a criminal. It also explains why no pro-life organization condemned what Sgt. Meyer did, while so many of them chimed in to condemn what Mr. Roeder did. Sincerely, Cal.

Abortion is Murder, 9-9, December, 2011

2011-11-21T12:50:00.000-08:00

Formerly Stop the Killing of Young People (skyp) and soon, perhaps, Stop Killing Preemies

December, 2011 Vol. 9 No. 8
PO Box 7424, Reading, PA 19603
Phone – 484-706-4375
Email – johndunk@ptd.net
Web – skyp1.blogspot.com
Circulation – 1041
John Dunkle, Editor

Abortion is Murder, a weak, pathetic response to baby murder, is sent out at least once a month. If the gestapo hasn’t jailed you for defending the innocent realistically, you either have to tell me you want it or go to the website. Faxes and emails are free but snail-mail is free only for PFCs, $100 for others.
Because I believe we should examine every legitimate means, including force, in our attempt to protect those being tortured to death, I want to hear from people who’ve been forceful. I’d also like to hear from those prolifers and pro-deathers who call force violence.
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Prisoners for Christ:

1. Evans, Paul Ross 83230-180, USP McCreary, P.O. Box 3000, Pine Knot, KY 42635
2. Gibbons, Linda, Vanier WDC, 655 Martin St., P.O. Box 1040, Milton, ON, Canada L9T 5E6
3. Griffin, Michael 310249, 5914 Jeff Ates Rd., Milton, FL 32583-0000
4. Jordi, Stephen 70309-004, FCI P.O. Box 33, Terre Haute IN 47802 6/30
5. Knight, Peter James, P.O. Box 376, Laverton, Victoria, Australia
6. Kopp, James 11761-055, USP Canaan, P.O. Box 300, 3057 Easton Tpk., Waymart, PA 18472
7. Little, David SJRCC, 930 Old Black River Road, Saint John, NB E2J 4T3
8. Moose, Justin 27494-057 FCI Talladega, P.O. Box 1000, Talladega, AL 35160
9. Richardson, Alonzo Lee 12898-021, FCI Pollock Federal Correctional Institution, P.O. Box 4050, Pollock, LA 71467
10. Roeder, Scott P. 65192, PO Box 2, Lansing Kansas 66043
11. Ross, Michael, Custer County Jail, 1010 Main St., Miles City, Montana 59301
12. Rudolph, Eric 18282-058 US Pen. Max, Box 8500, Florence CO 81226-8500
13. Shannon, Rachelle 59755-065, FCI Waseca, Unit A, P.O. Box 1731, Waseca, MN 56093 3/31
14. Waagner, Clayton Lee 17258-039, United States Penitentiary, P.O. Box 1000, Lewisburg PA 17837

Even though it’s a shameful sin to abandon defenseless victims to their attackers, it’s a far worse sin when you attempt to pass the blame for that sin onto God by claiming that’s what he wanted you to do. And that’s precisely what so many people have done with their rejection of God’s clear and sensible instructions to defend the defenseless, and with their pretenses and fake excuses for rejecting those instructions. Pride is a terrible thing when it leads you to deny your own sin and instead say that God sinned. Peter James Knight
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Wondering about AIM’s jump in circulation? As thanks for their efforts, I’m now sending it to all the killers’ helpers from Voice of Choice who emailed me (see below).

I’ve told youbefore about abortion.ws, the best forum going for talking about legal child killing. Every Monday “Pat Richards” posts a pro-death essay similar to this one following. Until today I have always been one of the most vigorous responders to Pat’s post. But Pat has a sidekick, I think her name is Elena Carvin, who has again taken to erasing me. This has me worried because I am afraid that editing would follow erasing, and then I could get into trouble.
So, I’ve decided from now on to stick with Pat’s posts and ignore “Comments.” That will end my including here some wonderful prolife writings. Instead, for each issue of Abortion is Murder I will select one or two of Pat’s essays, and comment.
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Turning the Tables
by Pat Richards

About ten years ago, I attended the funeral of Norma Stave, a good friend who, with her husband Carl, was the co-owner of two abortion clinics in Maryland. Carl was the main physician who performed the abortions. When I arrived at the church, Carl came up to me and asked at the last second if I would deliver a eulogy. I had always been comfortable talking in front of audiences but this was a different animal. Still, I was able to get through it, using my few minutes to praise Norma for her devotion to women in need.
Skip ahead a number of years. Carl died shortly after Norma, and their son, Todd, ultimately became the landlord for their two buildings. About eight months ago, Todd’s clinic in Germantown, Maryland attracted national attention when they hired Doctor Lee Carhart, a physician who worked for the late George Tiller and who vowed to continue George’s work by offering late term abortions.
Soon thereafter, local anti-abortion advocates learned that Todd owned that building where Lee worked. They quickly organized a number of protests, accomplished their goal of getting publicity in the local papers and have been a continual presence ever since. Then, looking for another angle to get their names in the papers, they decided to crawl deeper into the gutter. They learned where Todd’s 11 year old daughter was going to school and at a Back to School night, they stood outside the school with a banner that read “Please Stop Killing the Children” and the usual photos of aborted fetuses. Then, these wackos actually put Todd’s picture, phone numbers and email addresses online and urged their followers to contact him with their “prayers.” Todd was inundated with calls and emails. Nice, huh?
But Todd decided to fight back. He compiled a list of the people who were calling and emailing him and he sent that list out to 20 of his friends, urging them to call those people. He told them to not argue with them, to just be polite and tell them that “the Stave family thanks you for your prayers.” Well, those 20 friends passed on the info to their friends, and so on and so on and within two days they had 5,000 pro-choice folks making calls. Interestingly, the calls and emails to Todd’s house came to an abrupt halt.
Hmmmmmm…Is Todd on to something here?
I talked to Todd last night. He tells me that he has actually established a group called “Voice of Choice” (vochoice.org) which seeks to organize a “person to person counter campaign against anti-choice bullying.” The people who volunteer are notified when a certain anti-abortion advocate is harassing a doctor and are given that person’s phone and/or email. Then they start contacting that person. Todd says they have successfully stopped the harassment in two cases already.
I have no doubt that there are some pro-choicers out there who might feel uncomfortable about stooping to the tactics normally used by the anti abortion folks. Indeed, whether or not to use these kinds of aggressive tactics has been the subject of many conversations within the pro choice movement for years. In fact, Todd told me that some national pro-choice groups have been reluctant to cooperate with his organization.
When I was in the movement, I always came down on the side of those who did not support stooping to their level. I thought it was beneath us, that we had to take the high road. And maybe I’m just getting old and cranky. But now I say screw it. As long as it’s legal, go get the bastards, Todd!

I found this post particularly interesting because I am one of the bastards Pat urges Todd to go after. I visit regularly the homes of the baby killers with my sign, A KILLER LIVES HERE. Many times pro-deathers have told me they were going to visit my home, but they never have.
I would welcome it if it happened, but It won’t, and here’s why: “some national pro-choice groups have been reluctant to cooperate with his organization.”
“Why upset the applecart when we have everything going our way now,” the head of one of those groups would say.
Of course if I were visiting his home with this sign, A KILLERS’ HELPER LIVES HERE, that might change, but the feeling now is, “He’s making big money. Let him suffer a little.”
And suffer he does. I can tell it is the most effective legal weapon in my prolife arsenal simply by the reaction it causes among the prodeathers and the anti-force folks.
For an eye-opener go to Todd Stave’s website, vochoice.org, and listen to Howard Stern interviewing him. Howard calls Todd his hero, his new love, and tells him, “If I were gay, I would blow you.” Stern also tells Stave that we prolifers are “Picking off your legs like a spider, I mean, what the fuck.” (Whose legs are getting picked off in this war?) Finally, they both agree that we proifers should restrict our prolife activities to prayer – Sarcastic Howard says it this way: “Pray to Jesus that this is all gonna stop.” The anti-force prolifers need to know they have a notorious ally, the grotesque Howard Stern.
Listen, I love Neal Horsley, and I’ll help him in my feeble manner in any way I can, but I don’t think his attempt to turn Georgia into the pro-life state will be successful. It would require tens of thousands of prolifers to agree to join with him, and they won’t. Holding a sign outside an abortionist’s home, though (and the sign has to say A KILLER LIVES HERE), would require only a hundred or so participants to be effective, and they just might. Get two hundred and we could visit the homes of the killers’ helpers too (like Howard Stern)
Then the enemy would respond, and the war would be brought to the streets, the only place where it can be won.
No, not really. Probably the only way it can be won is via the illegal route. But that’s not an option for me. I don’t have the courage of the fourteen PFC’s listed above. That’s why I thought up this.
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I got this email today, November 17:
Hello again volunteers and supporters, Voice of Choice has been asked to help a doctor and clinic worker in central PA.
Jen Boulanger runs the Allentown Women's Center in Allentown, PA. She and the Center's doctor are the targets of ongoing, terrifying harassment by self-proclaimed members of the "Army of God."
John Dunkle openly advocates violence towards abortion doctors. He admits he is too cowardly to commit violence himself, but tries to recruit people who are willing to be violent. At least once a month he protests in front of Jen Boulanger's house, as well as the house of the Center's doctor.
Joyce Mazalewski has followed patients to their jobs, harassed them at work, and "outed" patients she recognizes from her neighborhood. She humiliates them and shames them publicly.
Watch this 2009 story, which includes an interview with Jen, from The Rachel Maddow Show - Rachel describes the harassment as "bone chilling," which indeed it is.
Just like with our previous peaceful campaigns, I am asking each of you send one email and make one phone call each to John and Joyce. Please do not leave any voice messages, and when you do speak with them, be polite and calm. Do not engage in arguments. Our goal is to diffuse aggressive behavior, not enflame it.
Let them know:
1) Protesting in front of people's homes is not acceptable
2) Harassing people at their places of work is not acceptable
3) We respect your opinions, but condemn your behavior
4) If you choose to continue to protest people at their homes and workplaces, you can expect protests at your homes and workplaces.
John Dunkle's phone number is 484-706-4375. His email is johndunk@ptd.net and his home address is 204 S 4th Street, Reading, PA 19602.
Joyce Mazalewski's phone number is 610-366-1392. Her email is miraclemom1956@aol.com, and she lives at 3830 McIntosh Drive in Orefield, PA 18069.
Also, if anyone has video of heated anti-choice protesters from anywhere in the nation, please email them to me or send me a link. We need documentation of these types of outrageous behaviors to demonstrate what is actually occurring.
If anyone has photos of aggressive protesters, we are starting a photo gallery on the Voice of Choice Facebook page –
Please upload any photos and, if you can, include their names, dates, and locale information. The photo gallery will help law enforcement nationwide track people who do not understand where to draw the line.
If you wish to remain anonymous and would like a free virtual phone number, just reply to this email and ask me for more information.
And finally, if you or someone you know is a victim of anti-choice harassment or bullying please let us know at www.vochoice.org/victims. We want to help.
Thank you for your continued hard work.

Today, November 17, I received 221 phone calls and 127 emails. I deleted most of the phone calls because I have pay-per-minute. Most of the emails repeated 1-4 above.
Some, though, were more interesting. I sent ‘em all copies of this newsletter, and I answered the more interesting ones. If that’s all vochoice can muster, they’re soon outta here. I’ll let you know what happens tomorrow. (Same thing. Now it’s Sunday and it’s begun to fall off.)
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One of the anti-force folks is Kathy Kuhns of Reading, PA. For her Pro-Life Berks July, 2011, newsletter, Kathy wrote an anti-force essay, “The Use of Force and the Just War Theory Applied to Baby Killers.”

The first four of its seven paragraphs consist of quotes from The Wanderer, The Catechism of the Catholic Church, St. Augustine, and St. Thomas Aquinas about just war theory. Here’s the rest:

So, taking these conditions into consideration, is it even thinkable to be a vigilante-style “pro-lifer” to shoot an abortionist, or even to imply the use of force to an abortion “clinic”? First of all, he is not acting in union with the Church, the superior of moral theology, or with the authorities of government. Likewise, can anyone suggest that we shoot the poor girls who have had an abortion, or the pro baby killer politicians, or even the bishops who cow-tow to them? Obviously none of these suggestions would bring peace, justice or order for the common good, OR save their souls. As for self defense, that argument can only be used if there was no one else to turn to for help, which is not the case. If a ten-year-old is being murdered, you would intercede if you could AND call for help; namely the police. If the police respond inappropriately as they do now to the killing at the Mills, then the moral superiors (the Church) in concert with the government, need to change the laws, with our help and support of course

Poland would have never overthrown Communism, and actually has never really rid itself of it, and overturned its abortion laws, if it had not been for the strong stand of the Catholic Church, and in particular the Holy Father. We have good solidarity among many pro life groups, but we sorely lack a strong stand by the Church and the inclusion of outside groups to our cause. Solidarity, including the use of strikes, sit-downs, shut-downs, slow-downs, pickets (Mills, diocesan offices, government offices, etc.,), rallies, media, fasts, internet, community organizing and any other means to display resistance to the current abortion laws and killings, must be thoroughly exhausted first before there is even the slightest thought of force, if there is any at all, and that has not been done. Ask yourself, have you really done everything you can do for this basic human life cause? Or, what Jesus would do?

On the 22nd of January and other targeted days of the year, we need to encourage everyone around the country to stop what they are doing and spend the day in prayer, fasting, marching, and/or picketing for the cause of life. Ask for assistance from someone, or group, that you have never previously talked to about abortion, including your priest or bishop. Think Pro Life Solidarity and it will force you to think of new, non-violent ways to end the baby killing and foster life, including eternal life.

Notice that every sentence in these three paragraphs is nonsense. For example, “First of all, he is not acting in union with . . . the authorities in government.” Of course he’s not! It’s nonsensical to say that someone who’s decided that the laws protecting baby killing must be broken should act in union with them!
Another example, “what would Jesus do?” Jesus obviously would clear a mill out, legally operating or not. That’s what he did to the money changers desecrating the temple, a far less serious offense than torturing to death young people
Notice, also, that Kathy’s plan to end legal baby killing is foolish; so, when people do not do what she asks, she can blame them. Does anyone else still think that after forty years of trying what she calls for in her final paragraph has any chance at all of being carried out?
And that, Gentle Readers, is the reason Kathy and other anti-force pro-lifers say what they say. We alive and outside prison all know that being effective would require a sacrifice none of us is willing to make. The difference between the pro and anti-force prolife people is the latter try to transfer the blame to others.
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Neal Horsley and a guy named Al continue the discussion:

Al, “But the pro-life movement has never discussed going to war in defense of the things they call people. They've never even THOUGHT about it!”
Oh, yes, they have. "Pro-Life" "Leaders" go ballistic whenever anyone actually acts physically to stop specific babies from being murdered.
Even volunteer to "pull the switch" on any captured defenders of the preborn.
"Pro-Life" "Leaders" are worse than the pro-abort leadership. I was standing just behind and to the side of Patricia Ireland on the plaza of the Escambia County, Florida courthouse when she expressed her personal and official N.O.W. opposition to putting Paul Hill, prisoner of war, to death. She gave as reasons the general opposition of N.O.W. to the death penalty and their opposition of making a martyr of Hill.
To have a war requires an aggressor AND a defender. A "one-sided" or "unilateral" war isn't a war at all but is a conquest or massacre, depending on the intents of the aggressor. The "Pro-Life" "Leadership" doesn't want a war. They want the Molech priests to voluntarily stop sacrificing babies to their god, and mothers voluntarily to stop donating their babies for sacrifice. They don't want even the government to do anything to aborting mothers. You know, that would be a good thing if people would all stop doing evil things without being forced or punished. But that isn't how the world works. People do evil mostly when they feel that they can get away with it.
The "Pro-Life" "Leadership" is opposed to a preborn child defending herself against being murdered. With this attitude, the preborn child starring in "The Silent Scream" should have been condemned by the "Pro-Life" "Leaders" for struggling against the suction cannula. According to Nathanson, the baby was unprepared for the invasion of the womb and attempted to escape the cannula.
For shame! The baby used VIOLENCE in her defense. "Pro-Life" "Leaders" should have condemned this VIOLENCE in the strongest terms.
Of course this only applies to those who have not yet been born. They are somehow different from the born.

Neal, I see the point you are making, Al, and agree.
But I don't think you see that I make a clear distinction between what Paul Hill did and what I am trying to do. As a matter of fact, I made that point directly with Paul Hill when I went to Pensacola to meet with him in 1993 and I tried to persuade him that working to organize an army was what God wanted instead of assassins moving against abortionists. I had seen him on "Night Line" and felt strongly that he was going to take up arms against the abortionists. Since neither of us knew what God wanted without question I did not argue with him when he told me that it would take assassins to stop abortionists from killing babies. What I told him was my alternative would appear to be a most graceful alternative when people saw where assassination would take people. Paul Hill looked me in the eye and said if that's the way it was to be, so be it.
And that's the way it is. I am still trying to implement the strategy I advocated with Paul Hill. What I did not understand at the time I talked with Paul was there would be so few men willing to give their lives in defense of the babies. We both agreed this battle was worth dying for. In other words, when I talked with Paul it was obvious that that was what we had in common and why we entered into fellowship so easily. I tried to convince him that I knew this generation of Christian men would not be willing to become assassins in defense of the babies. What I didn't know was this generation of Christian men would also not be willing to take up arms as duly authorized representatives of a State or States in defense of God's Right to decide whether unborn babies live or die. I'm still mystified why the Lord lets people who claim His Name act like that. In fact I talk to the Lord regularly about that precise subject.

I will no longer refer to this holocaust as a war; from now on it’s a massacre.
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Don’t Kill Your Baby: An Informative Pamphlet Concerning Abortion: The Murder of Children
by Paul R. Evans

Don’t kill your baby! You are being fooled into thinking that what you are doing is morally justified! You are committing murder!
There is a complex parasite at work in our nation today. Your government would have you believe that it is acceptable to murder your child, or commit homosexual acts, or accept the evils of heathen religions, so as not to “offend “ anyone.
The Bible says that these are all evils, and the Lord demands vengeance against those who commit such evils.
If God demands death for these offenses, think about how he feels when a person abandons – and murders – a living child. If that child, brutally murdered by the baby killing abortionist, were outside of the womb, he or she would, in most cases, be physically healthy.

The abortionist inside the baby-killing abortion mill doesn’t want you to think about these facts:
*You are conspiring with him/her to commit murder.
*Murder of innocents enrages God, and he demands blood – and a violent death “by the sword” – for those who shed innocent blood.
*If you don’t want your baby, somebody else does.
*The child inside of you is a living human being, highly developed, with feelings.
*Many times your child’s body part are ripped apart and sold to “science” after the murder takes place.
*Many good Christians are violently opposed to abortion, some of them have been jailed for many years for stepping in – to save lives.
*God loves you and your child, and he has a plan for both of your lives.
*Your child feels pain and will hurt when she is murdered.
How could an abortionist keep these facts from you, and why would they? Aren’t they supposed to tell you the facts?

The abortionist inside every abortion mill is a mass murderer, hell-bent in stacking up his riches through legalized abortion. They could n ever tell the fathers and mothers of the babies they kill these things. It would disrupt their evil enterprise. Someday, abortion will be outlawed when good Christians take back their country again. Abortionists are mass murderers, and when that happens, they will be likely tried by a Christian court of law, and sentenced to death.

God knows your baby. He has your special child’s whole life already planned out from this point on – Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you.”
You have simply been fooled, and many people have conspired to deceive you into thinking that your child isn’t a human being. “Fetus,” “a group of cells,” “part of a woman’s body” – these are all expressions to deceive you so you will kill your child and pay a baby killing murderer, sanctioned by our government to do so.
Use your heart and re ad the Sacred Scriptures. Jesus Christ understands your pain and confusion. Dedicate you life to him, or rededicate you life to him.
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Dear John, The two most common myths about Roe v. Wade are that 1) it came out of nowhere, and 2) it established a woman's right to legal abortion.
The true story begins back in 1967, when conservatives jumped the gun. Old school feminists has traditionally been against abortion, so conservatives thought it was up to them to control women's pregnancies. In 1967, aiming to control women's pregnancies during the hippie craze in California, conservatives had their newly elected governor Ronald Reagan legalize abortion in the most populous state. That was more than half a decade ahead of Roe, which was handed down in 1973. Three years before Roe, in 1970, another Republican governor, Nelson Rockefeller in New York, legalized abortion in the second most populous state. Conservatives in New York, especially Jewish conservatives, were frustrated that their daughters were making the "melting pot" boil over in the unmarried bedroom without concern for pregnancy.
What the Press does not tell you is that forced abortion was rampant under these conservative policies. And not only were states like California and New York pressuring women to abort to control women's pregnancies, even the federal government was in on the act, pressuring females in the Service to abort in an effort to maintain at least the outward appearances of military standards. As Supreme Court justices Connor, Kennedy, and Souter reflect in 1992, at page 859 of Planned Parenthood v. Casey, prior to Roe "the State might as readily restrict a woman's right to choose to carry a pregnancy to term as to terminate it..."
In other words, before Roe, the Court looked the other way while forced abortion ran rampant, without ruling on its constitutionality. This is not an uncommon practice for the Court. The Court often looks the other way, even for decades, and will not rule on a constitutional issue until a case presents itself in such a way that the Court feels comfortable with it. For example, law enforcement has been allowed for years to slip under people's cars at night while parked in their driveways in order to place GPS tracking devices without a warrant. But it was only recently that the Court agreed to hear a case on that subject. In other words, the Court has a habit of looking the other way while practices of questionable constitutionality run rampant for quite some time before ruling on them.
So in reality Roe did not come out of nowhere. Instead, in Roe the Court ruled on the forced abortions that were already running rampant thanks to efforts by conservative leaders to bring women's pregnancies under control during the Sexual Revolution. It was this ruling that formed the basis of the Court's decision, not a woman's right to choose.
So what did the Court rule? Rather than establishing a woman's right to legal abortion, the Court literally UPHELD a state's right to abate pregnancies using involuntary abortion, citing (at pages 153-154) the Abatement Authority of Jacobson v. Massachusetts (to control pregnancy epidemics, in this case) and Buck v. Bell (to prevent our being swamped with female sexual incompetence during a time of sexual revolution), and even going so far (at page 159) as to expressly abandon Skinner v. Oklahoma (to permit involuntary abortions in arbitrary connection with poverty and the punishment for crimes--the drug use of the hippie craze being the crime of interest at the time). To the chagrin of two justices who wanted to allow the states to control everything, the Court then decided that since the states have the authority to abate pregnancies involuntarily, then as the path of least resistance women should also be given a voluntary opportunity to abort,
provided women do not get carried away in choosing abortions either.
As Justice Marshall explains the ruling in Roe two months later at pages 100-101 of San Antonio Independent School District v. Rodriguez, with Skinner v. Oklahoma author Justice Douglas joining him, he says that rather than legalizing abortion under the auspices of a woman's constitutional right of privacy per se, instead "the Court reaffirmed its initial decision in Buck v. Bell" by adding abortion to the means of pregnancy abatement accorded to the Abatement Authority. Buck v. Bell was the 1927 case in which the Court extended the Abatement Authority of Jacobson v. Massachusetts to sterilization-based pregnancy abatement to control women during the Flapper Craze, and by "initial decision" is meant without Skinner v. Oklahoma intervening to protect women against involuntary procedures to control reproduction performed in arbitrary connection with poverty and the punishment for crimes. Thus, the Court in Roe literally upheld a state's right to force
women to abort, and even went so far as to abandon the protections of Skinner!
The truth be told, the facsimile of a woman's "right" to abort as handed down in Roe is legally wedged between a state's right to force women to abort if they go overboard refusing abortions (or else abatement objectives will be unsatisfied) and a state's right to force women to keep their babies if they go overboard with abortions (since that could be unhealthy in and of itself). In other words, Roe never literally established a woman's right to legal abortion. Instead, Roe ruled in favor of pregnancy abatement overall, including a basic opportunity for women to have voluntary abortions as the path of least resistance.
As Justice Douglas explains Roe at pages 213-215 of his opinion handed down under the companion case of Doe v. Bolton, Roe's plan of pregnancy abatement has a main plan (Part I) and a backup plan (Part II). Roman numeral I, when it comes to abortion, the woman is free to make the "basic" decision. That was Roe's main plan: Show women the big white sign that says "Choice" and see how well they do with voluntary abatement. But, Roman numeral II, such reasoning is only the beginning of the problem, because we might need a backup plan in case the main plan fails.
In other words, there are two alternatives to the abortion decision: A) the decision to refuse an abortion, and B) the decision to choose an abortion. If women go overboard refusing abortions, the abatement program will fail, and the Court will have stooped so low as to have endorsed child homicide without making any real progress in maintaining the outward appearances of pregnancy standards during a time of sexual revolution, which was the main concern of the Court. On the other hand, the lesser concern of the Court was that if women go overboard choosing abortions, that could be unhealthy in and of itself; for example, today now in retrospect some believe France and Russia may have suffered unhealthy abortion-related population declines.
So, in such cases, Douglas explains, we have to remember that the state has important interests to protect: A) The state can override the woman's decision to refuse an abortion, citing the Abatement Authority of Jacobson v. Massachusetts (to control pregnancy epidemics) and Buck v. Bell (to prevent our being swamped with female sexual incompetence), when our females run around like "imbeciles afflicted with hereditary forms of insanity or imbecility" and swamp us with their pregnancy "epidemics"; and, B) the state can also override the woman's decision to choose an abortion, citing the woman's health and at some point the life of the fetus she carries. This, then, is Roe's backup plan.
This goes back to the very foundation of Roe, where at pages 153-154 the Court says that the "abortion decision" (meaning whether to refuse or to choose an abortion) cannot be left to the woman's "sole determination" in view of "important state interests," with emphasis on allowing the state to override a woman's decision to REFUSE an abortion in the interests of pregnancy abatement, citing the Abatement Authority of Jacobson v. Massachusetts and Buck v. Bell. Then, at page 159, faced with the trend of women taking drugs at gatherings like Woodstock without concern for pregnancy, and worried that there might be no other way to effectively control drug-related pregnancy epidemics than to allow states to pressure women to abort in connection with the criminal penalties for drug use, the Court in Roe quietly abandoned Skinner v. Oklahoma, saying, "The situation therefore is inherently different from ... Skinner."
In other words, Roe has always been about pregnancy abatement, not about establishing a woman's right to legal abortion per se; and, the decision came in response to more than half a decade of forced abortion, such that states were allowed to pressure women to abort as readily as to turn around and make them keep their babies. Thus, while affirming a state's right to employ involuntary measures, the Court ruled that involuntary measures must be reserved as a backup plan to voluntary measures, such that the state could pressure women to abort, including on the basis of poverty or in connection with the punishment for crimes, only if voluntary abortion proved insufficient to satisfy abatement objectives, and such that the state could even prohibit abortion, but only if abortion excesses proved unhealthy in and of themselves.
Now, what happened with the feminists is that the old school leaders, including even Planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger back in the day, were originally opposed to abortion, because they thought it was improper and ineffective. Improper--because of the element of child homicide. And, ineffective--because abortion is an iterative (case-by-case) approach; instead, the old school (including Sanger) favored the once and for all approach taken by sterilization to control wild women.
But two things happened. One is that unlike doctors and old school feminists, the young feminists felt that forced sterilization was too humiliating as a means to keep pregnancies in standards. The other was that in the late 1960s and early 1970s feminists realized all of the sudden that they finally had a real shot at equality.
Up until then, for the past century, though not without victories like the right to vote, feminism had been little more than a diatribe when it came to the proposition that women's judgment could be respected at the career level in role model positions of authority like the men. In fact, since many of the jobs traditionally held only by men once had a strong paternalism about them, even feminist leaders reserved their opinion that women could do all of them, for fear of losing credibility. But in the late 1960s and early 1970s, all of the sudden feminist leaders realized in a great flash that now they really had a shot at this.
But there was one thing blocking the light at the end of the tunnel: other women, running around on the loose in the Sexual Revolution, were making women look like sexual imbeciles, rather than like leaders and role models whose judgment could be trusted. Feminists knew that society would not trust a woman's judgment on par with a man's if it looked like females could not even control their own pregnancies let alone their own judgment. So that is when feminists took over the job of controlling women's pregnancies. In other words, they took the job over from conservatives, who had originally jumped the gun in thinking that they would have to be the ones to control women's pregnancies.
This is why the feminists moved abortion to the very forefront of their platform. This is why they lied to women about the possible harm that certain drugs and devices could do to their fertilized children trying to implant. This is why they have rejected waiting periods, or anything else that could make a woman hesitate to go through the turnstile at the abortion mill. This is also why they have not informed women that lurking behind the big white sign that says "Choice" is a sharp pair of pruning shears waiting to trim their wild fruit off one way or the other.
Conservatives, for their part, of course, realized then that they jumped the gun. Instead, it was easier for them to deny complicity with abortion and let the feminists do all the dirty work. That is when conservatives like Ronald Reagan started saying things like "I didn't know what I was signing" regarding the abortion programs that had been implemented at both the state and federal levels under Republican leadership.
But, for their own part, even to this day conservatives still make sure that things are not too difficult for the abortion doctor to stay in practice. For example, when Casey was handed down upholding Roe, two-thirds of the justices were appointed by none other than Republican presidents Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush. Similarly, when a Republican-led Congress passed Laci and Connor's Law, also known as the Unborn Victims of Violence Act of 2004, they quietly preserved the two categories of involuntary abortion that the Court in Roe provided for the states in case women went overboard refusing abortions: the "on her behalf" category and the not-so-on-her-behalf but let us just call it the "implied by law" category. See 18 U.S.C. 1841(c)(1).
The two categories of involuntary abortion codified by Laci's Law stem from Roe, and relate respectively to abortions performed on the basis of the Abatement Authority of Jacobson v. Massachusetts and Buck v. Bell, in manners consistent versus inconsistent with Skinner v. Oklahoma. In other words, by disavowing the necessity of applying Skinner to abortion, the Court in effect created two distinct categories of involuntary abortion: one where the state claims it is "on her behalf" and the other where, though not on her behalf, being done based on poverty or crime, the state says that its necessity is "implied by law."
All myths aside, Roe was about pregnancy abatement, not women's rights. Abatement means to get rid of like weeds or mosquitos. Contrary to false reports about a debate in the Court, Roe was a UNANIMOUS decision as far as the ruling in favor of a state's right to keep women over a barrel of forced abortion to ensure abatement was concerned. Moreover, no member of the Court has ever even so much as "questioned" the children's rights in the sense of due process of law or the equal protection of the laws as the Fourteenth Amendment fully requires. See Casey, pp. 813 & 832. Instead, two justices dissented in Roe because they felt states should be able to override as woman's decision to refuse an abortion "as readily" as to make her keep her baby, WITHOUT having to allow any opportunity for voluntary abortion unless the state wants to. See Casey, p. 859. Originally, the abatement program was started by conservatives; but soon feminists took over the
dirty work for them in a desperate bid to make a woman's judgment look as trustworthy as a man's.

Despite the truth about Roe, the reason why feminists tie Roe to women's rights is that they are afraid that without legal abortion to help them prune the wild fruit off of women's branches, then no one will trust a woman's judgment on par with a man's, and then women will not get to have the positions of authority that men have. Hence, in a roundabout way, they tie the decision in Roe to women's rights.

Sincerely, Cal.
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Abortion is Murder, 9-8, November, 2011

2011-10-27T11:40:00.002-07:00

Formerly Stop the Killing of Young People (skyp) and soon, perhaps, Stop Killing Preemies

November, 2011 Vol. 9 No.7
PO Box 7424, Reading, PA 19603
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John Dunkle, Editor

Abortion is Murder, a weak, pathetic response to baby murder, is sent out at least once a month. If the gestapo hasn’t jailed you for defending the innocent realistically, you either have to tell me you want it or go to the website. Faxes and emails are free but snail-mail is free only for PFCs, $100 for others.
Because I believe we should examine every legitimate means, including force, in our attempt to protect those being tortured to death, I want to hear from people who’ve been forceful. I’d also like to hear from those prolifers and pro-deathers who call force violence.

Prisoners for Christ:

1. Evans, Paul Ross 83230-180, USP McCreary, P.O. Box 3000, Pine Knot, KY 42635
2. Gibbons, Linda, Vanier WDC, 655 Martin St., P.O. Box 1040, Milton, ON, Canada L9T 5E6
3. Griffin, Michael 310249, 5914 Jeff Ates Rd., Milton, FL 32583-0000
4. Jordi, Stephen 70309-004, FCI P.O. Box 33, Terre Haute IN 47802 6/30
5. Knight, Peter James, P.O. Box 376, Laverton, Victoria, Australia
6. Kopp, James 11761-055, USP Canaan, P.O. Box 300, 3057 Easton Tpk., Waymart, PA 18472
7. Little, David SJRCC, 930 Old Black River Road, Saint John, NB E2J 4T3
8. Moose, Justin 27494-057 FCI Talladega, P.O. Box 1000, Talladega, AL 35160
9. Richardson, Alonzo Lee 12898-021, FCI Pollock Federal Correctional Institution, P.O. Box 4050, Pollock, LA 71467
10. Roeder, Scott P. 65192, PO Box 2, Lansing Kansas 66043
11. Ross, Michael, Custer County Jail, 1010 Main St., Miles City, Montana 59301
12. Rudolph, Eric 18282-058 US Pen. Max, Box 8500, Florence CO 81226-8500
13. Shannon, Rachelle 59755-065, FCI Waseca, Unit A, P.O. Box 1731, Waseca, MN 56093 3/31
14. Waagner, Clayton Lee 17258-039, United States Penitentiary, P.O. Box 1000, Lewisburg PA 17837

Even though it’s a shameful sin to abandon defenseless victims to their attackers, it’s a far worse sin when you attempt to pass the blame for that sin onto God by claiming that’s what he wanted you to do. And that’s precisely what so many people have done with their rejection of God’s clear and sensible instructions to defend the defenseless, and with their pretenses and fake excuses for rejecting those instructions. Pride is a terrible thing when it leads you to deny your own sin and instead say that God sinned. Peter James Knight
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Don’t get angry, guys, just because I’m taking the easy “copy and paste” route again. All of these come from the abortion.ws blog run by the remarkable killers’ helper, “Pat Richards.” Peruse them along with the remarkable Cal’s story of Roe.

The bottom line is that babies shouldn’t be dying to make another’s life better. You can write page after page about how arrogant I am, how I am a liar, a fraud, stupid, ignorant, etc. Go ahead. Make your list, shout it from your rooftops, do what you can to try and shut me up. But none of this will change the fact that babies die brutally at your hands and with your support. You can make it about the woman, about pro-lifers, about Christians, about fifty year old men, about control issues, about bodily autonomy, about Republicans, anything you can think of but none of that will ever erase the fact that there are babies dying daily. You want to hide behind your euphemisms, rhetoric and propaganda but NOTHING will make those dead babies disappear. You can make it about John Dunkle or the other protesters. You can call them demented animals if you want BUT it does not take away what is happening and what happens in abortion clinics. You can call Bernard Nathenson and Abby Johnson liars and attention whores if you want but the dead babies will remain! They will still be dismembered and decapitated and placed with the common trash so that you can have things your way. You can pretend as if they aren’t human, say there are clumps of tissue or products of conception. You can say they are non-persons but saying it does not make it true. It is what it is! The scripture says in Deuteronomy “”I call heaven and earth to witness against you today, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and curse. Therefore choose life, that you and your offspring may live.” Deuteronomy 30:19. You can make fun of this scripture even but that does not make it untrue or make it go away.
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…honestly guys, there is NO way to go into what I think here in depth, but I will say that what if, years ago, rather than coming up with ways to get pregnant, such as embryo implantation, we had focused our attention on public awareness of all the children up for adoption? I’m touching the tip of the iceberg of such a deep discussion, so there is no need to tear into me. I know I’m being VERY basic for the sake of space, but we put the cart before the horse. Before we solve one problem in society, we create another. I don’t know what I would do with all those embryos. Just because we keep digging ourselves deeper into more and more moral issues doesn’t change the fact that I believe life starts at conception, and that morally, we shouldn’t interfere with it. As far as war, I hate war and loss of life as much as the next person, but a soldier defending this country is no different than a police officer doing it. Innocent people are killed in the crossfire of police shootouts at times, do you call that murder? Should we do away with law enforcement? War is just law enforcement on a bigger scale. It sucks, for sure, but what would you have suggested we do when Pearl Harbor was attacked? I can’t answer that question either, other than we all learn to get along !00% of the time, and no one ever break the law or try to take over other countries, stop oppressing their own, and terrorists stop being terrorists. Do you have another answer, because I don’t. I’ve watched the children of several close friends march off to war, and I’ve prayed for months for their safe return, agonizing with my friends, once even rushing to one after a dream she had about her sons camp being bombed. War is hell, and I’m certainly no warmonger. But I am a realist. We can’t even get along in cyberspace on this blog because we are on opposing sides of an issue, how do you expect entire countries to lay aside their differences and get along? War is a necessary evil, and our military are not murderers.
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“women are capable and moral decision makers”…Really? Each and every one of them? There are no, not even a tiny minority, selfish, self centered women using abortion as birth control? Who are irresponsible sexually, even promiscuous? There are no innocent babies out there dying because of that, no not one? There are no young girls who are terrified, thinking their parents will kill them, and that’s why they choose the quick way out, regretting it for the rest of their lives, never having the opportunity to bear that child, look it in the eyes and be damned with what anyone else thinks, and love it all its life? There are no vindictive women out there aborting their babies because they are teaching a boyfriend or husband a lesson? Really? Not a single one? ALL women are capable and moral decision makers? Crap, if half the population is perfect, why is the world in the shape it’s in?
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No need to blast you about being a murderer or murderer’s assistant. You’ve done that well enough on your own and yes, the baby needs to be protected. (Also, Pat – I hope you looked at my earlier post and tried to figure out where YOU fit in on the list regarding the grisly abortion killing business and its hierarchy.) It’s a shame that although you acknowledge that the baby needs to be protected on the one hand, you aren’t willing to offer the child the protection it is entitled to as a member of the human family created in the image and likeness of God. You don’t seem like such a bad guy so it’s a shame that you don’t have eyes of faith to see the window to the womb and the precious child growing inside of its mother.
But are you really kidding me (or yourself) when you say the clinic will prescribe birth control so that women are never forced to confront the heart wrenching decision of abortion?? Are you not aware a huge majority of women going into these mills are there precisely because of failed contraception? Abby Johnson has stated that Planned Parenthood gives out low dosage birth control to young girls in the hopes that it will fail and they will return to them for their abortion. They also hope to get them to return more than once during their reproductive years. After all, if you are on birth control and find yourself unexpectedly pregnant, then just have an abortion because you didn’t want the baby in the first place. ABC easy as 1 2 3 as simple as do re mi. That’s why these mills give out birth control pills like they were jelly beans. It fits right into their ‘unholy trinity’ (again the polar opposite of our Triune God – God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit.) The abortion mill’s unholy trinity is comprised of (1) contraception – the killing of babies at their VERY EARLIEST stage, (2) sex education (yeah baby – get in those schools early and get those kids working those cucumbers and condoms – indoctrinate them young, alter their families’ basic system of values into the permissiveness of if it feels good go for it culture of today’s youth thanks be to you pro-aborts. After all, you need to keep business going and if kids are stripped of their values then they’re fair game to buy into your theology) and lastly but not by any means the least, (3) the abortion itself. Voila!! Naturally you will do all of this with the perverted, twisted and deceptive logic that you in fact trying to prevent pregnancy. Pat – I have to add – you bought into it.
You are also right, Pat, – these women who abort know they will not have their baby in a few months. Likewise, the generations that should have sprung forth from that child will never be as well. Abortion has consequences that will last for eternity. Only a fool would wager their eternal salvation and support abortion. Satan’s Fool.
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John – she does it very easily. You see even with all of her degrees and titles what Kate doesn’t realize is that she is also part of an organization; however, hers has a very grisly belief system. The abortion “organization” or “cult” if you will is fundamentally a business – a profit driven business I might add, based on the perverse and misguided concept that it is a “human right” for a woman to have “abortion on demand without apology. Period.” Those are Kate’s words, sick and pathetic as they may be. It is her mantra and ideologically and cleverly marketed by their church bishops (if you will) as “free choice” and garnering the “church” astronomical profits by perpetuating the killing and death of innocent babies to the tune of approx. 4,500 per day in the U.S. alone.
It goes further than just being a busine$$. Kate doesn’t even realize that she serves a god – but it is not the One True God – rather she serves the god of child murder and gleefully claps and cheers at the systematic ritual of each and every woman’s offering of her child’s blood sacrifice as she enters into the killing mill. How dreadfully perverted and sad for her. In the Old Testament this god was called Moloch. Through the years child sacrifice has always been the same – the bloodthirsty beast demanding the killing of children as a form of worship. Hence the name of Malachi on our quite ghastly photos (yes, they’re ghastly but heck that’s abortion for you.)
The work in the abortion mills today are our modern day valleys of slaughter. In their demonic RELIGION, (gee I bet you pro-aborts didn’t know you were religious!) the abortionist offers the ritual blood sacrifice to the ancient demon of child murder. As in most religions, this demonic religion also has their dogma which is the cleverly marketed word, “choice” (a euphonium used to take the sting out of what they REALLY mean – murder). Their perverse sacrament is quite simply the abortion itself. Their ruling hierarchy is all the Planned Parenthoods out there (we won’t leave out all you little mom and pop stand alone mills either) Further, they have their theologians (feminist ideologues – Kate that’d be you and your minions or ilk – Ellen, Lucy, Sharon I haven’t forgotten about you don’t worry – or whatever your word for the day is) their priests (abortionists and ghastly clergy supporters of abortion), their temples (of course all those lovely state of the art abortion mills that we read about – some more grisly than others), their altars of sacrifice (the surgical tables – minus the stretchers – we’ve heard from patients at a local mill that they are expected to walk to the recovery room), their victims (the babies and also the moms), acolytes and/or lectors (clinic workers and technicians), guardian angels (police/security, and deathscorts), congregations (leftist foundations and private supporters), and its own version of “grace” that covers everything -- albeit not always very proportionately – (money) (guess who I’m thinking about hmm? – hint she has red hair and drives a hybrid) ’nuff said – by the way – hope all you guardian angels enjoy your summer picnic and thanks so much for all your help!! LOL
Yeah – I’ll take my Jesus any day. You folks that get your undies all in a wad about being able to kill babies without “terrorists” offering a life line to women about to commit your “blood sacrifice of abortion” deserve one another.
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Telling a man to be a “good daddy” or telling a woman to protect her child or telling her it’s not natural to kill her own child are acts of shaming?
Good daddies don’t allow people to kill their children and it’s not natural for a mother to kill her own child.
These statements are true. They bother the mother and the daddy and you to hear these words because there is truth to them.
It seems to me that you want to support abortion but you don’t want to admit the reality of it. You make a stand that baby Malachi is a fake but fail to note that even if that were true the other hundreds of thousands of babies who die each year in abortion are real. What do you think, that they come out perfect and whole and are laid to rest in a funeral? No they are mutilated and thrown away. You want to turn the attention to the pro-life protesters, their religion, and words, because that takes the attention away from the mutilation going on inside the clinics. For every woman that you walk into that clinic a dead baby goes out the back. You can stand out there and dance and clap and act like the circus is in town if you want but deep down, deep inside you know the truth. Suppressing the truth doesn’t make it untrue. You help kill babies Kate! Face it! Instead of celebrating when a woman refuses to talk to the sidewalk counselors you should weep bitter tears because a baby will die and the mother will know that she killed it and you will know that you helped.
It’s not natural? How would you know what is “natural” when you live in a world that is socially-constructed and you can’t see beyond it, can’t see the socio-political structures that put that world together?
As for the remainder of your “seems to me” and “these statement are true” or “you want to” I’d say, you’re entitled to your opinions. But you and your cohorts cannot deny the ugliness you perpetrate on strangers who are private patients and then do so with some sense of goodness. I know what goes on inside abortion clinics. We’ve been through this a zillion times. Embryos/fetuses/products of conception/pregnancy tissue/baby/child/unborn/young person (does that about cover it?) die. It’s a choice that good women make for good reasons. You don’t agree. Instead you and your kind choose to make women miserable, to shame them (and you do it intentionally) for decisions that are their own and then claim to be so righteous. Like I said, you have your opinions.
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To Kate and Chuck, I have to say this blog is the first place I have heard anyone refer to being a hero in this issue. It has never occurred to me, nor have I ever heard another pro-lifer even allude to the need to be a hero. Kate, however it is said by the pro-life individuals, in a good way or bad, (I admit there is bad) the message is the same: we believe in the sanctity of HUMAN life, in each and every stage of development. It is a human life at each and every stage of development. We believe it is wrong to end human life, whether cognitive or not. Abortion ends human life. What part of any of that is a lie? It may be handled wisely or poorly or tragically by either side, but it is still the truth, proven by science and reality. As far as anything at all about God, neither of us can prove or disprove his existence. I look at the intricacies of the world around me, such as the human eye, and I see no other choice but to believe in Him. I don’t believe because I need to believe, I believe because a lifetime of seeking answers to the universe leave me no choice but to believe. History is on my side. Most civilizations have believed in a creator or divine being. Some of the greatest minds in human history believed in Jehovah God. I am amazed that you are so certain, 100% sure, that he doesn’t exist. So I find no “lies” that you keep mentioning. Also, being new to the blog, I have researched many of the facts mentioned here that were called lies by you guys, from independent sources, since I do want truth in my life, and I have so far found nothing mentioned to be a lie, including Malachi, which you failed to disprove. All you did was quote others, as I did. I really am sorry that so many pro-lifers out there, as well as so many Christians, behave in a way that drive people away rather than draw them in. I have given you both tit for tat, because I felt you were the bullies of the playground, and now Kate, you say you have something called Bully Watch. I find it amazing that you are guilty of the exact same behavior you accuse others of. If pro-lifers and/or Christians out there are behaving badly, that’s a shame, it really is. But I believe you both know, Kate with your Bully Watch, and Chuck with your Aborticintrism, that believing in God and the sanctity of human life isn’t a cult, syndrome or psychosis. And I also believe that you both know that this whole thing is about people believing babies are being killed, not about being a hero, or refusing to adopt dozens of babies, which seems to be your only argument, and is a lame one, because the children languishing in the system aren’t there because of abortion, or due to “insisting” woman have babies, or a violation of women’s rights. They are there because ALL women can’t be trusted, (men too) and because ALL women (men too) aren’t respectable. Men and women everywhere have shirked their responsibility, their duty, their common decency toward their children, usually due to self-centeredness and irresponsibility. Your answer to that, like all liberals, and I don’t mean that as a slur, is to turn them into victims, and strip them of what little self respect they may have, giving them the easy way out, complete with excuses. What they, and all humans need, are boundaries, responsibilities, a conscious and a sense of shame when they slack off, and a sense of pride when they don’t. Society used to handle these things very well by our public approval or disapproval. That was stripped away little by little as morality declined. Now, anything goes, and it’s not your fault.
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“Pat” and “voice” talk about Planned Parenthood:

Pat, I know what you’re getting at when you refer to PP’s “origins” and from what I’ve heard/read, there were some sketchy things said in those days. But I cannot hold that against them now, they do more to stop abortions that any other institution in this country…

voice, Yeah, like encouraging free sex, giving out low dose birth control pills that fail as well as cheap condoms that break. Sounds like they are doing their share in the abortion war.

Pat, Okay…how does PPFA “encourage free sex”???

voice, By telling kids things like this from their teen website:
People who care about and trust each other become intimate — close. But sex is just one part of a whole relationship. It’s just one way to be intimate. How about the other aspects of your relationship?

Do you treat each other as equals?
Do you trust each other?
Are you honest with each other?
Do you respect each other’s needs and feelings?
Do you care about each other?
Do you share similar interests and values?
Do you have fun together?
Do you both accept responsibility for what you do?
Do you both want to have sex at this time?

And this one is the kicker….If these things are true about your relationship, you may be ready to have sex.

Um…NO! There is no twelve/thirteen fourteen/fifteen year old on the planet who is “ready” to have sex. Sex leads to pregnancy and grown up decisions that children are not ready to cope with. The above reasons for “being ready” to have sex are not good enough for any child. It is infuriating that they teach these things to children. Why not say something like “Sex is an adult activity that should be waited for UNTIL you are an adult in an adult relationship”? This same website claims that most teens are not having sex, so why encourage the others that they are “ready”?
This same website gives information about a girl’s first period and explains to boys all about their bodies, making it clear that they cater to younger teens and even children. Some girls start their periods as young as 8 and 9 years old. So they are basically telling children and young teens that they “may be ready for sex.”
Planned Parenthood breeds irresponsibility.
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Dear John, Today I would like to tell you and your Gentle Readers the story of Roe v. Wade.

Beginning around the mid-1940s, California moms dreamed of lives of pretty dresses, convenient household appliances, and what was being billed as Western living for their daughters. For example, in 1943, Sunset magazine started billing itself as "The Magazine of Western Living." The home was being filled with all sorts of whirling electrical appliances. And, textile manufactures had started producing clothing materials with bright and cheery colors. Though long since forgotten, pattern stores, where mother and daughter could pick out the latest patterns to make their own clothes, were once very popular. Those were the dreams of California moms. But by the time their daughters did grow up as young women in the 1960s, they threw it all away to wear trashy clothes and have sex before marriage with lazy long-haired boys who smoked marijuana, and occasionally even "Negroes" as they were called.
As far as conservatives were concerned, their daughters were crazy, and they needed a way out. So they promptly had their newly elected Republican governor, Ronald Reagan, legalize abortion in California in 1967. However, Reagan and his conservatives were not exactly leaving the females of California a choice. Instead, they were using the old Buck v. Bell strategy that had been so successful in cracking down on flappers in the Roaring 1920s with threats of involuntary sterilization, and now they were applying it to abortion.
The way the strategy works is simple: Either you show us how competent you are to take care of matters voluntarily, or we just might have to use the mental health exception and do things the hard way! The leverage of hanging women over a barrel like that is that most of them get the idea, which leaves only the stragglers to focus on, and those of them who still do not get the idea may also have enough other problems that few eyebrows will be raised if they are dealt with the hard way at any rate.
That was California. Next came New York. New York is a melting pot state. What melting pot had traditionally meant, up until the 1960s, was that different cultures and ethnic groups from all over the world live side-by-side in the same communities, in the separate sense. And, yes, from time to time there could be inter-marriages. But these were typically attended by a substantial social process, to give the stubborn old people from the old country a chance to get used to these new changes.
But by the late 1960s, young people were making the melting pot boil over in the unmarried bedroom without concern for pregnancy, let alone a social process of acceptance, and Jewish conservatives were especially frustrated that even their daughters were participating. So they promptly had their Republican governor, Nelson Rockefeller, legalize abortion in New York, in 1970.
That was California and New York. But Texas was the big hold out. Today California, Texas, and New York are the number one, two, and three most populous states, in that order. Back then California and New York had just swapped the number one and two positions, and Texas had rapidly risen to number four, just behind Pennsylvania.
Texans are an extremely proud people. Texans knew they would never be able to look each other in the eye, or tip their hats to one another in public, if they had to admit that in order to cover up for their backward element, they felt the need to legalize child homicide in its most clandestine form of legal abortion, just like California and New York had already done. Of course, Texas did not have California's marijuana problem, or New York's integration problem. So Texas held out.
What prompted Roe was the return of our soldiers from Vietnam. It is a problem that takes a short while to materialize: First the men start to return home, then they still expect the women to do that thing where they have sex with the returning soldiers, then the woman gets pregnant, and then the baby starts to show. That is when the leaders in Texas realized that these young men were in no condition to take care of a family. Instead, all they men wanted to do was to brood about the bizarre experience they had in Vietnam, and to keep the brooding going with the help of caffeine, nicotine, alcohol, and maybe a little marijuana. These young men were in no condition to care of themselves let alone a family. If anything, the woman was going to have to take care of the man and baby both. So that is when Texas threw in the towel.
Unbeknownst to Jane Roe's attorney, Sarah Weddington, Texas went to the U.S. Supreme Court as a "straw man" to lose Roe v. Wade on purpose. This way Texas could have the abortions that Texans were too proud to legalize on their own. A straw man is someone who pretends to be arguing the case, but limits his arguments in a way designed to fail, just like a straw man falls over on its own in the corn fields. That way, by losing the case, the Court would tie the state's hands so Texans could have abortions just like California and New York were having, but without Texas having to do the dirty work of legalizing it on its own, which would have been too hard for proud Texans to face.
Instead, all Texas would have to do is to lose Roe v. Wade at the U.S. Supreme Court so that the Court would tie the state's hands. Then Texas would be forced to allow abortions. In other words, Sarah Weddington was too unseasoned to realize that she did not need to perjure herself to win, by lying that her client was raped, instead, all she needed to do was to sit back and let Texas throw the case.
For the Court to tie the state's hands, Texas needed to lose on both of two critical points: The children's rights and the secondary issue of a state's rights. But even though the U.S. Supreme Court was aware of the intentions of Texas to lose the case, Texas was still expected to at least go through the motions and put on the appearances of vigorous argument. In other words, it does not pay to look complacent. Instead, the straw man is still expected to at least put on a good show.
It is easiest to see Texas acting as a straw man during oral reargument in Roe v. Wade, which is when attorneys on both sides get a second chance to argue their positions before the members of the U.S. Supreme Court, who ask the attorneys questions to clarify their legal positions. So, during oral reargument, Texas attorney Robert Flowers presumes to sit up high on the horse and goes through the motions on the children's rights: "Gentlemen, we feel that the concept of the fetus being within the concept of a person within the framework of the United States Constitution and the Texas Constitution is an extremely fundamental thing."
Right away, Texas is laughed down by Justice Stewart. You have to listen to the actual audio to hear the laughter in his voice. He says in effect, you don't want to sit up too high on that horse, or you just might win your case, which is what all of us here except Sarah Weddington know you don't want to do, as evidenced by the fact that "Texas abortion law presently goes too far in allowing abortion" for that, seeing how Texans are not quite ready to legitimize their own children today!
But Texas tries to play off the criticism, saying, "Yes, Sir. That's exactly right." In other words, Texas is saying that this is a weakness in our children's rights argument, and one that the Court can use to defeat the children's rights, and when you do, don't go asking any more questions, just give Sarah Weddington everything she's asked for, because "we feel this is the only question really [keyword: ONLY] that this Court has to answer."
So what just happened there? Texas just tried to dodge the state's rights question completely!(Texas dodges the state's rights issue by saying the children's rights issue is the "only" question the Court has the answer, not the secondary issue of the state's rights.) Texas would not even go through the motions on the state's rights! In other words, for fear of winning on the state's rights, Texas would not even touch that question with a ten foot pole!
Why? Because if Texas loses on the children's rights, but wins on the state's rights, it will not do Texas any good. California and New York will still be able to have their abortions, but not Texas because Texans are too proud to legalize it on their own. Instead, Texas needed to lose on both the children's rights AND a state's rights in order for the Court to be able to tie everyone's hands, so Texas can have abortions too.
So right away, Justice White, who is all about a state's rights, gets mad and interrupts. He is mad because here the straw man, Texas, is so eager to lose on the state's rights, that Texas will not even go through the motions on the issue. So Justice White scolds Texas, saying that even if you lose the children's rights, if you at least win the state's rights, Texas will still be good to go. California and New York can still have their abortions, but Texas won't have to if Texas doesn't want to, provided you win the state's rights, because a state can still assert rights over the fetus "whether the fetus is a person or not."
Later, when the decision in Roe was handed down, Justice Blackmun, who wrote the opinion for the Court, decided to leave Texas a little reminder not to ride back home too high on the horse. Texas wanted to pretend that it had done everything it could for the children, everything at all, but, shucks, now the High Court has simply tied its hands by making it allow abortions. But even when leaving Texas a little reminder, the Court still had to be discrete about the key role Texas played as a straw man in Roe v. Wade, so Justice Blackmun tucked it away in a footnote, footnote 54.
He explains that, like so many a young man who is asked by the judge, are you going to legitimize your child today, rather than giving the Court a straight yes or no answer, Texas "faces a dilemma" and instead wants us to listen to a long story. The story goes to say that if you only understood they way things are between the men and women of Texas right now, then you would appreciate why on the one hand we do not want to deny that these are our children, but why also on the other hand we should not have to take responsibility for the children in the whole and total sense of the Fourteenth Amendment either, given the underlying frivolity of the sexual encounters that led to those children in the first place, what with the sexual revolution and all.
So, in the main text, at page 162 in Roe, Justice Blackmun concludes, saying, "In short, the unborn have never been recognized in the law as persons in the whole sense." When speaking of children in this type of situation, "recognized in the law" is a quiet way of saying "legitimized." In other words, Texans were not quite ready to legitimize their own children that day. Instead, they threw the case and lost on purpose so the Court would tie their hands to legalize abortion in Texas.
And, that, Mr. Dunkle, is the story of Roe v. Wade. Sincerely, Cal.

Abortion is Murder, 9-7. October 2, 2011

2011-10-19T08:21:00.000-07:00

Formerly Stop the Killing of Young People (skyp) and soon, perhaps, Stop Killing Preemies

October 2, 2011 Vol. 9 No.7
PO Box 7424, Reading, PA 19603
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John Dunkle, Editor

Abortion is Murder, a weak, pathetic response to baby murder, is sent out at least once a month. If the gestapo hasn’t jailed you for defending the innocent realistically, you either have to tell me you want it or go to the website. Faxes and emails are free but snail-mail is free only for PFCs, $100 for others.
Because I believe we should examine every legitimate means, including force, in our attempt to protect those being tortured to death, I want to hear from people who’ve been forceful. I’d also like to hear from those prolifers and pro-deathers who call force violence.

Prisoners for Christ:

1. Evans, Paul Ross 83230-180, USP McCreary, P.O. Box 3000, Pine Knot, KY 42635
2. Gibbons, Linda, Vanier WDC, 655 Martin St., P.O. Box 1040, Milton, ON, Canada L9T 5E6
3. Griffin, Michael 310249, 5914 Jeff Ates Rd., Milton, FL 32583-0000
4. Jordi, Stephen 70309-004, FCI P.O. Box 33, Terre Haute IN 47802 6/30
5. Knight, Peter James, P.O. Box 376, Laverton, Victoria, Australia
6. Kopp, James 11761-055, USP Canaan, P.O. Box 300, 3057 Easton Tpk., Waymart, PA 18472
7. Little, David SJRCC, 930 Old Black River Road, Saint John, NB E2J 4T3
8. Moose, Justin 27494-057 FCI Talladega, P.O. Box 1000, Talladega, AL 35160
9. Richardson, Alonzo Lee 12898-021, FCI Pollock Federal Correctional Institution, P.O. Box 4050, Pollock, LA 71467
10. Roeder, Scott P. 65192, PO Box 2, Lansing Kansas 66043
11. Ross, Michael, Custer County Jail, 1010 Main St., Miles City, Montana 59301
12. Rudolph, Eric 18282-058 US Pen. Max, Box 8500, Florence CO 81226-8500
13. Shannon, Rachelle 59755-065, FCI Waseca, Unit A, P.O. Box 1731, Waseca, MN 56093 3/31
14. Waagner, Clayton Lee 17258-039, United States Penitentiary, P.O. Box 1000, Lewisburg PA 17837

Even though it’s a shameful sin to abandon defenseless victims to their attackers, it’s a far worse sin when you attempt to pass the blame for that sin onto God by claiming that’s what he wanted you to do. And that’s precisely what so many people have done with their rejection of God’s clear and sensible instructions to defend the defenseless, and with their pretenses and fake excuses for rejecting those instructions. Pride is a terrible thing when it leads you to deny your own sin and instead say that God sinned. Peter James Knight

Readers, I‘m interrupting the sequence of these newsletters to bring you the following:

Dear All: In recent months I've been sending some of my screeds to my brother Tim. His name is John Timothy Hughes, but there are so many named John Hughes in our family (dating from my great grandfather who emigrated from Ireland at the height of the potato famine in 1848) we called him Tim. Since moving to Colorado, he uses John. I still call him Tim, as does my older brother Leo and people who knew Tim growing up in Fort Pierre, South Dakota.
You will find Tim's "take" on things is reasoned and based on personal experiences, even though he has little formal education. He attended the Black Hills State Teachers College for a short time, but left to get married and raise a family. He self-taught himself the profession of upholstery, in which he succeeded, but he lives on 40 acres of cactus and rattlesnakes halfway between Colorado Springs and Pueblo. His marriage broke up (so Tim shares that experience with many of you) and his wife then married an ex-army sergeant who was abusive to Tim's ex-wife only daughter, Tara, so Tim got custody of Tara. Tim has always been politically alert. From that, he has become interested in interacting with the Hispanic community in Pueblo. This consists mostly of teaching Hispanic teens (mostly girls, the boys haven't yet learned the importance of education) in how the American economy works. One of his projects is teaching them how to build and decorate bird houses, which he plans to take to realtors and other small businessmen in the area as a free "sweetener" to close business deals.
Tim believes the Federal Income Tax is unconstitutional, so for many years he refused to pay it. This led to the IRS putting a lien on any property Tim acquired, so he went through most of his life with no assets, until he negotiated an agreement with IRS. So Tim is a man of some convictions and is willing to pay the price to uphold them. I have something in common with that, with my conviction that the Roe v. Wade ruling allows the entire next generation of Americans to be wantonly murdered, and spending time in jails and prisons in six states to demonstrate my opposition.
Tim, Leo, and I were raised in the Roman Catholic faith. It "took" with all three of us, but in different ways. What saddens us all is that our children (9 in all) have wandered away from what I am convinced is by far the best and most fully documented explanation for human origins and destiny available to us. In that conviction, I've been largely self-taught. Tim and his wife sent their three children to Catholic schools, paying tuition that taxed their incomes, with no discernible benefit from it. All three of us raised our families at a time when the Catholic Church was near schism as serious as that with the Protestant Reformation. It has been spared repeating that experience due to the efforts of three remarkable Popes, Paul VI (Italian), John Paul II (Polish), and Benedict XVI (German), all three having lived through the Nazi terror and rise of Communism in these three countries so essential to the success of the Church in evangelizing Europe (reaching out to Latins, Slavs, and Germans). I could add Celts in Ireland and Britain.
Since Vatican Council II, the Church has been bedeviled (and that's the right word) with the scandals of homosexual predatory priests sodomizing altar boys and most priests giving Holy Communion to militantly pro-abortion "Catholic" politicians, all with the passive consent of their bishops. I cannot believe that these bishops can continue to believe in the Real Presence of Jesus Christ in the Eucharist (a doctrine taught forcefully by Jesus Christ Himself). They can for a time, I think, but not for long. It is too much of a contradiction between their duties and their behavior. Altar boys are RIGHT THERE kneeling in front of them during Mass waiting to be sodomized, and pro-abortion zealot politicians are RIGHT THERE in front of them waiting for Holy Communion. My guess is that some 70 percent of bishops no longer believe in the Real Presence (I have a short essay backing up that view if any of you want to read it). Once a Catholic no longer believes in the Real Presence, he not only stops being a Catholic, he stops being a Christian.
So these bishops stopped emphasizing the "hard" teachings of Jesus Christ in Catholic education of children in Sunday School classes and attending Catholic schools, and also when these children entered Catholic colleges and universities, and even among all Catholics who still attend the Catholic Mass. The seeds of this rebellion had to exist before Vatican II, since the leaders of the revolt were priests, bishops, and theologians before Vatican II, when the Roman Catholic Church was experiencing what seemed to be a "Golden Age" at the time (Kennedy's election as US President, etc.). They thought they could use Vatican II to take over the Church; otherwise they would have left, like Martin Luther, John Calvin, and Henry VIII, and formed their own churches. They didn't succeed because of these three remarkable Popes, but they very nearly succeeded and their dirty work has caused a widespread loss of faith among Catholics, as evidenced in the children of me and my brothers. In the meantime they continue to collect their Church salaries ("How convenient" Charles Swithinbank would say).
As an example, Bev and I both taught Sunday School at St. Mary of the Assumption Roman Catholic Church in Orono, Maine, where the University of Maine is located. I taught "conscience" to junior high school students.
The soft-cover book I was given, from the bishop's office, taught "conscience" using six stages of conscience formation according to Lawrence Kohlberg, a secularized Jewish atheist from Harvard who committed suicide. At the end, it mentioned Jesus Christ and tried to fit His teaching into Kohlberg's categories. I went through Kollberg's six stages, closed the book, opened the Bible, and said to my class, "That's all you need to know about Kohlberg's treatment of conscience (Stage 1: The carrot and stick approach in the home. Stage 2: Peer pressure in the schools. Stage 3: community standards, including Jim Crow in the South. Stage 4: Patriotism, my country right or wrong. Stage 5: A citizen of the world dedicated to "saving the planet" from human abuses. Stage 6: I alone decide what's right and wrong, just as Adolf Hitler did). For the rest of this course, we're going to examine conscience based on Moses' Ten Commandments (from Mount Sinai) in the Old Testament and Christ's Nine Beatitudes (the Sermon on the Mount) in the New Testament. That gives you all you need to know about conscience." The priest at St. Mary's sat in on some of my classes but said nothing. Then he was replaced by a new priest who cut me out of the small group of Sunday School teachers. No explanation given and none asked for by me. Since then Catholic Churches have closed all over Maine.
Comments? Terry Hughes
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Terry, your analysis prompts me to go public with what I think about Catholics and Protestants.
I don't want to create a rift between me and you and the rest of my Catholic allies in this battle. But I can't help but point out what makes me as a Protestant incapable of trusting the Catholic church as an institution and other Catholics when they do make trusting a Catholic Pope the binder of their conscience.
You summarized your analysis below of recent Catholic skullduggery by saying, "They [the apostasizers] didn't succeed because of these three remarkable Popes, but they very nearly succeeded and their dirty work has caused a widespread loss of faith among Catholics, as evidenced in the children of me and my brothers."
And it is right there on the matter of the Pope's authority to bind the conscience of Catholics that has the potential not only for rift but for an unbridgeable chasm to be created between you and me. Take Pius VII for example. Whereas Pius VI was willing to fight Napoleon and his secular thinking to the death, Pius VII turned the previous Pope's faithful willingness to give his life in service to the Lord into the Concordat of 1801 because protecting the institution and property of the French and European Catholic Church was Number Seven's obvious goal.
And that happened at a critical moment in history when the world was being tempted to totally abandon any foundation for government forthrightly based on the will of the Creator as had been declared in either the Divine Right of Kings or the Declaration of Independence from America's Revolution.
In exactly the way Eugenio Pacelli, Hitler's Pope, found a way to sanction Hitler so Hitler wouldn't focus on the German Catholics as disloyal to him, Catholic Pope's have been willing to surrender the hard battle for this world's turf to the enemy, and in our generation that means millions of the most vulnerable people among us.
The dots between the French Revolution, to Napoleon, to the Russian Revolution, to Hitler are easily connected by me. And every dot is connectible in history because the Creator is not fought for in government anymore. Much, if not most, of that confusion about God's role in government can be traced to the Catholic Pope's willingness to see the perpetuation of the Catholic institution as tantamount to the perpetuation of the Body of Christ.
And it's still happening today. That's why the Catholic led pro-life movement is nothing more than a toothless old hag with empty saggy dugs incapable of protecting the least of God's children.
I don't trust the Popes and won't trust them because they carry the seed of a conscience binding lie, namely, that there is a man or a man's interpretation of reality that God gives to tell me what God says. Lord Holy Ghost using Holy Scripture to guide me was given that role on earth for me. If the Lord Jesus Christ returns and proclaims Himself a Roman Catholic Pope, I'll kiss His Ring. Or if someone other than Jesus Christ who is elected Pope happens to get filled with the Spirit and tells me what God says, I pray I'll have no problem marching with him in every way a man can march. But I'll never admit that just because he has some kind of office on earth that means I'm supposed to follow his orders when he ignores or contradicts what Lord Holy Ghost tells me to do in Holy Scripture. The Lord Jesus Christ will never do that.
Were I to think some man presently among us it to tell me what God says, I'd be like the rest of the Protestants who think because the Supreme Court says something, I've got to believe it's true, even if it's a lie.
Obviously I'm not only a Protestant but some variety of Protestant who's hard to define in even Protestant denominational enclosures.
So the point is, from my point of view our alliance in fighting for the lives of unborn babies has nothing to do with our denominational enclosures but everything to do with the fact that we walk together--in this battle at least--in the Holy Spirit of God. Brother, my heart's desire and my fervent prayer is that nothing on earth or in heaven or hell separate us from walking together because I admire more than I can find words to say the battle you have waged for the least of God's children, and because this battle is to the death and whatever other questions that could be raised between us are literally irrelevant until we see whether God wants us to survive this battle.
Make sense? Neal Horsley
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Glad this came up. The idea that the pope can "bind" us on anything but the Gospel is called Papolotry. Novus Ordo Catholics, as opposed to Traditional ones, believe that every fart and burp coming from the Pope is Dogma - as examples: the horror of interfaith prayer at Assisi (getting together with devil worshippers, Hindus, Buddhists etc.) is actually defended by these Catholics.

His allowing women to read at the altar; John Paul's "baptizing" of evolution; I can, and may later, go on and on. As a Traditional Catholic I "Resist him to the face".

He is only "infallible" when he defends the teachings of the Apostles. Otherwise, he is as infallible as I am.

I know there's much more that concerns you; I would be glad to answer your questions. Helen Westover
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Actually, Helen, there really isn't any concern I know of except the one you clarified for me. If Martin Luther's Pope had had as much Holy Ghost Power as you, we probably would all still be Catholics like Paul and Peter and the rest of the Saints were. I believe we are in Christ together and praise His Holy Name, waiting expectantly to see what He'll do to work us together for good. Neal Horsley
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I like this discussion and agree with Terry even though most of the people I respect – Rev. Don Spitz, Neal Horsley, Rev. Michael Bray, Randall Terry, Shelley Shannon, Joan Andrews, Jim Kopp, and others – are not Catholic.

I’d like to join the discussion with this message I give my children, and my grandkids when they enter high school and I take over their religious education:

History

God (Jehovah, G_d, Yahweh, The Word, Allah, the Creator, etc.) created the universe probably a long time before he created the first people, Adam and Eve. Adam and Eve lived happily with one caveat: they had to obey God. They did not, and they and we, their descendants, were plunged into this "vale of tears," with pain, death, treachery, and ignorance part of our lot.
God chose one of Adam's descendants, Abram (changed to Abraham), to begin a line of people through whom he would reveal himself again to humanity. This line is therefore known as "The Chosen People." They are also called Israelites after Abraham's grandson Jacob whose name was changed to Israel. God said that from this Chosen People he would send a savior who would return to us the power to regain what had been lost through the actions of Adam and Eve; i.e., eternal life with him in heaven. And he did send a savior, Jesus Christ, his only son. Many Israelites accepted this savior. At first they were called “The Way.” (from “the way, the truth, and the life”). Later, most Israelites accepted him and then became known as Christians, followers of Christ. Non-Israelites were invited to become Christians and many of them did too. That is why The Chosen People came to be called Christians rather than Israelites.
Christians increased in number because Christ had told them to gather in everyone. To do this, early Christians traveled all over the world and then also became known as Catholics – “catholic” means universal, or everywhere. The "Catholic/Christian/Israelite" Church is located everywhere.

Right from the beginning people believed different things about Jesus. Some said he was a phony, even a devil; others said he was a good man but not God, or that he was God but not a real man. They also believed different things about what he did. Some said he established a Church to carry on his work and chose Peter to lead it; others denied this. Some said he made his mother, Mary, a special human being; others said she was just like you and me. There were arguments over Peter's successors, Baptism, consecration, the Holy Spirit, celibacy, gender roles, One God and the Trinity (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit), and on and on.
Gradually the truth was, and is, proclaimed. False beliefs are called heresies. During the first six or seven hundred years of the Church's existence, every heresy you can think of was examined and rejected. Only the truth was retained. Who rejected error and retained truth? The Holy Spirit did. When Christ established his Church, he said the Holy Spirit would protect it from error.
Although most heresies attract few people and soon die, some lead to schisms. That means they pervert large numbers of people and are still around today.
The first schism was Talmudic or Rabbinic Judaism. Some Israelites did not accept Christ. They said he was a fake. These people are called Jews and are still awaiting the messiah.
The next was started a little after 500 AD by a man from the Middle East named Muhammad. Although Muhammad did not believe Jesus was a fake, he did not believe he was God (Allah), either, but just another in the long line of prophets starting with Abraham. (Muhammad borrowed the belief that Jesus was not God from the Arians, heretics but not schismatics.) Muhammad called himself God's greatest prophet. His followers are called Muslims.
Around 1000 AD came Orthodoxy. This schism started because some Catholics rejected the successors of Peter as Christ's voice on earth. The Orthodox retain most other Church teachings.
Number four on our list is Protestantism, which Fr. Luther started about 1500 AD. The first Protestants were also Catholics who rejected Peter's successors. Over the years they have rejected many other Church teachings.
The 2000 AD schism is modernism. Some modernists reject this or that truth, or these and those, and some reject everything, even the reality of God/G_d/Yahweh. I have heard modernism called the worst schism because it’s a mix of every heresy that’s ever existed.
Notice that these schisms occur about every five hundred years. By allowing false beliefs to become entrenched God is showing us again, as he did with Adam and Eve and others before Christ, how easily we Catholics, The Chosen People, can lose sight of him. He demands recognition. When we fail to recognize him adequately, horror, including sometimes schism, follows. John Dunkle
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John, your schism analysis brings out this truth: Christ Jesus has One Body, not two, not three, not eleven gazillion. I am a member of that Body and those who fight with me to defend the lives of the least of God's children are members of that Body too, members of His Body even if they don't know they are, and especially if they know they are, because they walk in the Spirit of Christ. Either that is true, or nothing that I know, or believe, or am, is real and true, and this is all a dream. Or should I say a nightmare? Neal Horsley
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As a single mother, with a demented ex, I decided to bankrupt myself sending my kids to Catholic schools. Thinking they were learning what I learned, bible and doctrine, I once asked my son what they were learning in religion class. He replied, "Be kind, and don't litter."
They learned nothing of Our Lord (except that He was PC all the way), scripture, moral doctrine, nothing. I like to say that they got just enough to inoculate them against the Faith.
Since I became a Traditionalist (I totally reject Vatican 2 and the wreckage it wrought), I'm beginning to get their attention. One of my daughters goes to the Old Mass, and has a personal relationship with His Majesty. I'm still working on the other two. Helen Westover
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Prolifer Kortney Gordon was killed in a car accident in Georgia.

To date, little national attention has been focused on the fact that one of the most aggressive, most effective, most faithful pro-life leaders in the nation was killed this week. The short news story pictured below on the Macon Telegraph web site is all the press I've seen this story receive to date.
I realized that the story of Kortney's death was intended by God to be a signal event when I saw that the news did not report the fact that along with Kortney her baby was also killed. The news story omitted that fact because her baby could not be officially reported to be alive because her baby was still in her womb, thus it could not be reported to now be dead like her mother.
The paradox of Kortney having spent most of her life trying to fight for the lives of unborn babies, then having her own baby killed without one word being reported by the news media in this country made me focus hard on what Kortney's death in Georgia is supposed to mean to me and the rest of the people of the United States of America.
This is my response to Kortney's death. I hope you will grant Kortney the respect to either bless me or curse me for using her this way. What I saw gave me no rest until I wrote this article.
I met Kortney one time in California when Jonathan O'Toole brought me to California to meet with Kortney and the other Survivors and Kortney's boss, Jeff White, the Founder of the organization called Survivors. Kortney played an operational leadership role in guiding Survivors. Looking back on my meeting with Kortney, all I can remember about her is we went to see the Scorsese film "The Departed" together.
The fact that Kortney and I watched a movie together called "The Departed" resonates eerily in my mind now that Kortney has departed, especially when I remember the scene that is linked to my first meeting with Kortney. Kortney wasn't there but somehow her presence comes to mind when I remember Jeff White and I bellowing at the top of our lungs at each other, calling each other cowards on a Sunday afternoon in the normally quiet mountain top enclave high in the San Bernardino mountains above Los Angeles.
I had gone to get the support of the pro-life leaders in California and what I got was almost a fist fight with Jeff White and his oldest son, and near total rejection by the pro-life movement.
That rejection can explain why when Kortney came to Georgia in the years after I tried to obtain help from the pro-life leaders that she never stopped by to talk to me. Once I talked with her on the telephone when she came through Georgia and asked her to meet with me to talk about what God had called me to do running for Governor of Georgia. But Kortney never made time for me.
That's why when she was killed in Georgia this week, I didn't know she was in the State, nor did I know anything about the pro-life event she was attending in Georgia that created her fateful rendezvous with death.
The meaning of Kortney's "fateful rendezvous with death" might be one of the most important messages ever sent to the pro-life movement in America.
The first thing that struck me when I heard about Kortney's death is the irony (maybe that's not the best word, but it's what comes to mind) that Kortney was killed with her baby in her womb. In today's vocabulary Kortney was aborted and her baby was aborted. Yet Kortney had made her life focus on doing the best she knew how to do to protect the lives of the unborn babies exactly like her unborn baby who was killed with her.
And the real irony comes to the forefront when we ask the question who killed Kortney. By whom was Kortney killed?
The news story pictured above says she ran head on into another vehicle whose driver was also killed. But you and I who believe there is a God out there who knows the numbers of hairs on the heads of each person alive and who knows when even a sparrow falls out of the sky dead knows, or is supposed to believe, that God Himself made a decision to allow Kortney and her daughter to have a "fateful rendezvous, with death."
Those who believe in such a God, and who are still alive on earth, are now thrust into a place (the "fateful" part of the rendezvous) where we must decide what Kortney's death means.
My first response was to think Kortney's schedule, her itinerary in Georgia, would have been radically different if Kortney and I had been allowed by the pro-life leaders of America and Georgia to have fellowship together in the Lord. While Kortney was here, she would have touched base with me. We would have worshipped God together, we would have brainstormed what came next. Chances are, had Kortney been in fellowship with me she wouldn't have been driving down that road to her "fateful rendezvous with death."
But I have no way of knowing whether my first reaction to Kortney's death is the truth. All I know is I truly felt a huge mistake, maybe even a deadly mistake, had been made when people older than Kortney, people she looked up to as leaders in the pro-life movement, led her to shun me like she had done.
I want to blame them for her death. But I know I can't do that because the facts about what might have happened had Kortney been led to have fellowship with me in the Lord Jesus Christ will never be known. That entire train of thought is rank speculation because Kortney is dead now.
Sharon Guengerich is the one who alerted me to Kortney's death. She is one of my few friends among pro-life leaders. Sharon is a lightning rod in the pro-life movement, has been for years as she stands regularly almost alone in front of a California abortion mill showing and telling people what it means to legally butcher unborn babies. Neal Horsley
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Dear Neal: A truly tragic story. Mit Romney said recently that abortion should be left to the states. Been there, done that. It was called slavery and each state could decide if it wanted legal slavery of our fellow human beings. The result of that "solution" was The War Between The States in which over 600,000 died on both sides. And Romney wants to be president?
Will we never learn! Terry Hughes
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I was surprised to hear what Terry said. Is his attitude an indication of the attitude of even the boldest operation rescue people? Are they that far from actually understanding the strategy?
Terry, I'm surprised to hear you say that. What you don't seem to see is if a State actually forced the federal government to choose between going to war and nullifying a State law, there are three or four historical precedents in the USA showing that the federal government has always blinked in the past, one of them even involving Andy Jackson, who was probably the most dangerous man who ever occupied the White House. Those precedents prove that with a State nullification strategy that can command the numbers to control a State government a piece of ground can be carved out of the USA where abortion is outlawed if people will open their eyes and see what we can do. That is, if God's people can receive the grace to actually make the fed blink.

You sound like you've never read this article: http://www.horsleyforgovernor.com/strategy.html much less followed the train of thought defined at http://www.aogusa.org

Or are you saying that you would be willing for abortion to be legal everywhere in the USA even if it was possible to force the fed to allow a State to outlaw it? Neal Horsley
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Dear Neal: Abortion is murder, a violation of the Fifth Commandment. It is always and everywhere a grave sin. Slavery isn't in the Ten Commandments, even though God freed the Jews from slavery in Egypt only a short time earlier. I'm inclined toward the view that Lincoln should have allowed the slave states to leave the Union. By 1861 slavery was an anachronism, outdated by technological innovations beginning with the cotton gin a half-century earlier. Since slavery would die a natural death as a human institution, was it worth 600,000 lives to hasten the day and to invest the Federal Government with powers never given to it in our Constitution, powers it now uses to make slaves of us all? Powers it now uses to advance its agenda of killing the next generation of Americans by abortion? Allowing ALL of that generation to be murdered? And making us pay for it with our taxes?
Murphy's Law, Terry Hughes
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All that is true, but beside the point: the point being how do we find in this generation a place in this nation where murdering the unborn people is illegal, even if the mother wants to kill them? I have been saying for decades what I said in my book Call It Revolution: we must prepare to take over a State and force the federal government to respect a State's Right to outlaw murder and sodomy...or die trying.

Trying to lead that to happen is what I have been doing for so long that it seems to me everybody should understand what I do for a living.
I have done due diligence, my homework, and prepared the position papers and the marching orders. The only thing I lack is people willing to spend their lives if that's what it will take to abolish legalized abortion in at least one State. I say that because I can't guarantee what the fed will do when push comes to shove over the matter of legalized child sacrifice. But my best guess is this nation will shrink back from the abyss rather than risk another war like the Civil War you described, and especially if the war inevitably begins with an IRA-like campaign such as you are very familiar with. But I'm in it for the duration, having reached the conclusion that we've tried every other alternative to abolish this legalized murder and the strategy I advocate is what comes next.
Either that, or we admit we surrender this world to the devil. My Lord doesn't give me that option. Neal Horsley
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Neal’s argument that Roe can be overturned if we focus on making Georgia prolife makes sense if you remember how Roe became law. First, illegal baby killers usually got away with it. Then New York made it legal and got away with that. Maybe one state at a time is the way.
I don’t think so, though. I think Roe will go only when the fourteen people listed at the start of this newsletter become fifty.

Abortion is Murder, 9-6, October, 2011

2011-09-16T06:31:00.000-07:00

Formerly Stop the Killing of Young People (skyp) and soon, perhaps, Stop Killing Preemies

October, 2011 Vol. 9 No. 6
PO Box 7424, Reading, PA 19603
Phone – 484-706-4375
Email – johndunk@ptd.net
Web – skyp1.blogspot.com
Circulation – 89
John Dunkle, Editor

Abortion is Murder, a weak, pathetic response to baby murder, is sent out at least once a month. If the gestapo hasn’t jailed you for defending the innocent realistically, you either have to tell me you want it or go to the website. Faxes and emails are free but snail-mail is free only for PFCs, $100 for others.
Because I believe we should examine every legitimate means, including force, in our attempt to protect those being tortured to death, I want to hear from people who’ve been forceful. I’d also like to hear from those prolifers and pro-deathers who call force violence.

Prisoners for Christ:

1. Evans, Paul Ross 83230-180, USP McCreary, P.O. Box 3000, Pine Knot, KY 42635
2. Gibbons, Linda, Vanier WDC, 655 Martin St., P.O. Box 1040, Milton, ON, Canada L9T 5E6
3. Griffin, Michael 310249, 5914 Jeff Ates Rd., Milton, FL 32583-0000
4. Jordi, Stephen 70309-004, FCI P.O. Box 33, Terre Haute IN 47802 6/30
5. Knight, Peter James, P.O. Box 376, Laverton, Victoria, Australia
6. Kopp, James 11761-055, USP Canaan, P.O. Box 300, 3057 Easton Tpk., Waymart, PA 18472
7. Little, David SJRCC, 930 Old Black River Road, Saint John, NB E2J 4T3
8. Moose, Justin 27494-057 FCI Talladega, P.O. Box 1000, Talladega, AL 35160
9. Richardson, Alonzo Lee 12898-021, FCI Pollock Federal Correctional Institution, P.O. Box 4050, Pollock, LA 71467
10. Roeder, Scott P. 65192, PO Box 2, Lansing Kansas 66043
11. Ross, Michael, Custer County Jail, 1010 Main St., Miles City, Montana 59301
12. Rudolph, Eric 18282-058 US Pen. Max, Box 8500, Florence CO 81226-8500
13. Shannon, Rachelle 59755-065, FCI Waseca, Unit A, P.O. Box 1731, Waseca, MN 56093 3/31
14. Waagner, Clayton Lee 17258-039, United States Penitentiary, P.O. Box 1000, Lewisburg PA 17837

Even though it’s a shameful sin to abandon defenseless victims to their attackers, it’s a far worse sin when you attempt to pass the blame for that sin onto God by claiming that’s what he wanted you to do. And that’s precisely what so many people have done with their rejection of God’s clear and sensible instructions to defend the defenseless, and with their pretenses and fake excuses for rejecting those instructions. Pride is a terrible thing when it leads you to deny your own sin and instead say that God sinned. Peter James Knight
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Last month I included “Prefatory Considerations,” Part 1 of Rev. Michael Bray’s defense of prolifers who do not break the laws that protect the killing industry. Here’s the second and final part of the Rev’s defense:

The Argument
The following line of argument presents itself: “If abortion is murder, one must certainly have a very good reason NOT to rescue these innocents; some very important affairs to conduct! If true human children are being dispatched with every abortion “procedure,” how can one deny the legitimacy, yea, the duty, to take up arms to defend the helpless innocents?
We set forth here arguments for our third point, personal vocation (point 3). It stands upon inductive arguments from Biblical examples and is fashioned upon three principles: A) the sovereign judgments of God, B) conflicting obligations, C) personal discernment of divine calling.
First is a laissez faire (“let do” as in leave the economy alone!) argument. As we are not bidden to follow an ex-communicant and implore him return, but would let the due judgment fall upon him and his children whom he has by his own choice taken away from the fellowship of the Church, denying them the Life of the Church; and as we would simply pray for his repentance and return to the Life found at the Table of our Lord where he and his children are nourished, so we must similarly look at these children. They have been taken to the slaughter by their own parents who, living in a Godless and Lawless nation, have been equipped and protected by the state to carry out such a deed. This very condition is a judgment of God upon a wicked people. It is the same situation found among the nations among whom Israel dwelled. They sacrificed their children to Moloch bringing judgment upon themselves in their own wicked idolatry, destroying the most precious gift from God, thinking that they were serving Him. And God did not command His people to rescue those who so sacrificed their children nor did he pronounce the failure to rescue such children to be sin.
Our current legal/ethical status under our apostate government might well be viewed in terms of the biblical “ban,” by which a town or nation was “devoted” unto destruction. In that case, God sent judgment to that nation, slaughtering all - women, children, animals.
A similar laissez faire posture was taken by Christians regarding American slavery. Christian theologians argued that the enslavement of Africans was a particular divine judgment upon their idolatries. They could overlook the condition which Providence had placed these fellow human beings and entrust them to His benevolence and mercy. They could, therefore, be good overseers and citizens of a society where slaves were undergoing their own process of conversion and sanctification. They could be taught the Gospel, converted to the Faith, and given the hope of salvation even as they lived in less desirable conditions than their otherwise blessed white countrymen and fellow Christians.
A second principle is a “conflict of obligation” principle in which a person declines to take on one duty because it disables him from performing another. A man with duties to his own children has less of an ethical demand to lose his life to imprisonment of death to save an orphan depriving his own children of a father. I say less of an ethical demand. The man who gives up his fathering responsibilities to save another does not do wrong, but he certainly is engaged in choosing one duty over another. The choice is left to him and we may remain “pro-choice” by this principle.
A third principle has to do with divine calling and is thus related to the second. The legitimacy of taking defensive action for the sake of the innocent at great personal and familial loss beckons one to discern the will of God among multiple options and it thus falls as well under the “pro-choice” banner. One may call to mind the divine calling upon Hosea to marry a harlot or upon Samson to marry a woman outside of the covenant nation or upon Ezekiel to preach to a people of whom God said that they would not repent. These callings are reserved for the particular servant of God to discern. He called these men out for a special task to which He did not call others. Such extraordinary and sacrificial deeds may be compared to the “prophetic call” by which the leading of God is sensed by the one who defends the innocent ones.
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In the last few issues I’ve been posting deanna’s responses to various pro-death people on the abortion.ws blog. Here’s one she writes to Kate Ranieri:

Kate, miniscule fetal abortion? really? You think the dead babies are miniscule?
This is the very thing that I am talking about. How is it that you as a human being have gotten yourself to the point that you think the death of another human is miniscule?
Also, you said, “Deanna repeatedly uses grotesque imagery in her words like, slicing up preborn babies, ripping their arms and legs off, crushing their heads and sucking their brains out with a vacuum hose. But where’s the grotesque imagery for the Holocaust and slavery?”
I use this imagery intentionally as I am sure you suspected. The reason I do that is because it is easy to hide behind terms like “abortion”, “products of conception” and “contents of the uterus”. I want you to never forget what it is that you really do because hopefully one day it will click with you that what I am saying is the truth and reality. Kate, THIS IS WHAT YOU DO! You do this to another human being and you have so deceived yourself that you not only justify it to yourself but try to justify it to others. But the reality is there IS NO justification for it.
Also, you said, “Morality, as an ideal, is clearly a key consideration for those who believe in the seamless garment protecting all life. But, in the real world, morality is situational.” Unfortunately you are right on this one. Morality is situational. But it shouldn’t be. At one time there were moral absolutes but in our quest to be free we have even freed ourselves from morality. As a society we have lost moral absolutes, I admit that. But the basic (should be) unmovable moral foundation is the unquestionable right that each person has to live without another killing her. This is why we pro-lifers say that a woman’s right to freedom over her body doesn’t trump the right of the baby to live. The foundational stone of freedom is the freedom to be alive and the foundational stone of morality is to not kill. These should be absolutes. But we have convinced ourselves that they don’t have to be.
As far as the other social injustices go and why there isn’t the outrage. I can tell you that from my perspective those things do anger me. I can guarantee you that had I been alive in slave days I would have been as loud and persistent as I am about abortion. But the abortion issue hits close to home because of my background. If you read the “about me” section of my blog, that will help you make sense of it. Also, as a Christian I know from scripture that abortion offends God. The scriptures are clear on it. Unless someone is taking scripture out of context and twisting it, she has to admit this. Scripture specifically says to be a voice for the voiceless and to speak up for those who are destined to die. Some are called to speak for those innocents in one area, others another. Mine happens to be to be a voice for the unborn. Also, the fact that I am loud about the one does not mean that I ignore the others.
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Here deanna argues with Kate again. Kate had denied that the abortion industry tries to increase the number of abortions in order to benefit financially:

When you consider the high profile names that have said this you have to look at it with some interest. Several former abortionists have said it. The movie Blood Money goes into detail about it. Carol Everett, an owner of two abortion clinics in the Dallas-Fort Worth area, wanted to become a millionaire. “And the way for me to be a millionaire was to sell 40,000 abortions a year.” Everett wanted students to “come to us with their sexual questions so we could put them on a low dose birth control pill we knew they’d get pregnant on. Of course we passed out condoms but we never passed out high quality condoms; we always used seconds or defective condoms. Our goal was to get the kids pregnant.”
Abbey Johnson said, ““Planned Parenthood absolutely has quotas that each center has to meet, They have an abortion budget and they have a certain number of patients that you have to perform abortions on every month, and there’s a dollar amount attached to each woman.”
Joan Appleton, former abortion nurse and NOW activist says,” Now the pharmaceutical companies and Planned Parenthood and the abortion industry were not stupid. They knew that the less dose of estrogen in those pills, the more likely it was they were going to fail. But you don’t have to worry. We can bring you right back here for another abortion. They even used percentages, by the way -- thirty percent failure rate because we’re going to use the real low estrogen pill. So that means thirty percent will come back. And if we forget to tell you, by the way, that if you get the flu and have to be put on antibiotics, the chemical reaction between the birth control pill and the antibiotic renders the birth control pill worthless, and totally ineffective, so we have another twenty percent. Thank you, come back around.”
As far as the condoms go a January 2005 consumer reports article shows that two of the three types of condoms that Planned Parenthood distributes ranked the lowest out of the twenty-three brands that they tested, failing air inflation tests. Consumer Reports reprimanded them for it and The Chicago Tribune carried a story about it as did Newsday.
I could go on with more quotes but I think you get the point. You have to ask yourself the question why these people would say these things if there weren’t some truth to it. Some pro-choicers say that they do it for attention or their 15 minutes of fame, but that makes no sense, especially for Carol Everett who made millions off abortion. As did Bernard Nathenson. It was their consciences that got the best of them. You have to investigate the motive. They were pro-choice, in the industry and came out, some of them with very tough after effects. Why would they go through all of that unless there was some truth to their stories? It makes no sense.
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Two quotes, the first from someone long dead and the second from someone still alive:

“Humility is a virtue by which one has a low opinion of one’s self because one knows one’s self well.”

“Every man, one day or another, becomes aware of his poverty as a creature. And since this experience is a crushing one, the natural temptation is therefore distractions, or, as Pascal said, diversions . . . Distractions, therefore, appear as the opposite of prayer, a refusal of our real condition, an evasion of it in favor of different kinds of drunkenness: evasion by the flesh, art, sports, etc.).” (scary)
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Other powerful prolife voices besides deanna on the abortion.ws blog are NunYa, voice, and various anonymouses.

from NunYa

To Kate and Chuck, I have to say this blog is the first place I have heard anyone refer to being a hero in this issue. It has never occurred to me, nor have I ever heard another pro-lifer even allude to the need to be a hero. Kate, however it is said by the pro-life individuals, in a good way or bad, (I admit there is bad) the message is the same: we believe in the sanctity of HUMAN life, in each and every stage of development. It is a human life at each and every stage of development. We believe it is wrong to end human life, whether cognitive or not. Abortion ends human life. What part of any of that is a lie? It may be handled wisely or poorly or tragically by either side, but it is still the truth, proven by science and reality. As far as anything at all about God, neither of us can prove or disprove his existence. I look at the intricacies of the world around me, such as the human eye, and I see no other choice but to believe in Him. I don’t believe because I need to believe, I believe because a lifetime of seeking answers to the universe leave me no choice but to believe.
History is on my side. Most civilizations have believed in a creator or divine being. Some of the greatest minds in human history believed in Jehovah God. I am amazed that you are so certain, 100% sure, that he doesn’t exist. So I find no “lies” that you keep mentioning. Also, being new to the blog, I have researched many of the facts mentioned here that were called lies by you guys, from independent sources, since I do want truth in my life, and I have so far found nothing mentioned to be a lie, including Malachi, which you failed to disprove. All you did was quote others, as I did. I really am sorry that so many pro-lifers out there, as well as so many Christians, behave in a way that drive people away rather than draw them in. I have given you both tit for tat, because I felt you were the bullies of the playground, and now Kate, you say you have something called Bully Watch.
I find it amazing that you are guilty of the exact same behavior you accuse others of. If pro-lifers and/or Christians out there are behaving badly, that’s a shame, it really is. But I believe you both know, Kate with your Bully Watch, and Chuck with your Aborticintrism, that believing in God and the sanctity of human life isn’t a cult, syndrome or psychosis. And I also believe that you both know that this whole thing is about people believing babies are being killed, not about being a hero, or refusing to adopt dozens of babies, which seems to be your only argument, and is a lame one, because the children languishing in the system aren’t there because of abortion, or due to “insisting” woman have babies, or a violation of women’s rights. They are there because ALL women can’t be trusted, (men too) and because ALL women (men too) aren’t respectable. Men and women everywhere have shirked their responsibility, their duty, their common decency toward their children, usually due to self-centeredness and irresponsibility. Your answer to that, like all liberals, and I don’t mean that as a slur, is to turn them into victims, and strip them of what little self respect they may have, giving them the easy way out, complete with excuses. What they and all humans need are boundaries, responsibilities, a conscience and a sense of shame when they slack off, and a sense of pride when they don’t. Society used to handle these things very well by our public approval or disapproval. That was stripped away little by little as morality declined. Now, anything goes, and it’s not your fault.
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SKYP Much Love! Thank you Soooo very much for sending Vol 7, #’s 1-20, from May ’09-April 2010. I see why you call it a “weak, pathetic response to baby murder” due to the immensity of the lives of aborted children’s worth. Those Prisoners For Christ need to be known as heroes for their actions! Not demeaned nor forgotten. Their sacrifices are not to be forgotten.
As you know I read the issues MacDonald, ex. P.F.C., received while I was at USP Victorville CA with him. I wasn’t expecting you to send all of Vol. 7. But yes, if you have any past issues, entire volumes as this, etc., it would be very appreciated and I would make sure those worthy and like-minded read them. Keep spreading the Word, as will I.
Jake Laskey

You bet, Jake. Here comes Vol. 8. I’m so glad to hear about Ricky Lee MacDonald. He was a prolific writer for AIM (skyp back in those days). One condition of his parole was that he cut off all ties to prolifers and prolife groups. I miss him.
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On the abortion.ws blog, a killers’ helper said she would not use pro-death bumper stickers because some crazy pro-lifer might damage her car. I stupidly asked if she weren’t afraid, then, to expose herself since she is an obvious, active, and open fighter for her cause -- stupid because that could be considered a veiled threat, as she pointed out. One of our great prolife voices on that blog then wrote this:

John, While I assume you had no ulterior motives, I will say that I thought the same thing as I read your comment. I abhor what Kate stands for, and I find her obnoxious, but I don’t wish her dead. I am against planting thoughts in the heads of crazies. I am against it in movies, music, games, books, and now blog comments.
I know, though rarely admit out loud, that pro-choicers act out of a belief in the rights of a woman over her own body, not out of a desire to kill children. I also believe that that comes from a need for God coupled with worldly thinking that always, always puts “me” first.
Jesus came to seek and save those who are lost, not kill them. Yes, I also understand that babies are being killed. They will continue to be killed unless we change either the law, the person, or both. Occasionally killing the random abortion provider does nothing but prove that the killer wasn’t “really” pro-life, cause even stricter laws to be passed limiting us even more, and making us all look like backwoods crazies. It hurts the cause so much that it actually results in MORE babies being killed. FACE is a good example. Yes, I also know that the abortion providers aren’t innocent. But I am not for vigilantism. If you want to start an uprising leading to another civil war, I’ll be on board, but only something on as massive a scale as that would ever hope to work.
Again, I am assuming you meant no veiled threat.

Editor and Chief, Pat Richards, responded first:

Nunya: I very much appreciate this post!

And then I did:

So do I. Although 95% of us prolifers are against the minimal use of force (Rescue) and 99% plus are against the maximum (killing the baby killer), I have rarely been able to get one of them to write down her or his opinion. Since my newsletter is more concerned with that part of the legal baby killing issue, and since many entries there have supported the use of force (three in the September issue alone), I am most thankful for NY’s comment, which I’ll post in the October issue, out next week.

OK, let’s hear it.

And I’ll respond first. “40 Days for Life” considers itself the quintessential peaceful, prayerful, prolife organization, one that I feel sure NunYa would approve of. Those who run it, like Abby Johnson, have harsh words for other prolifers who challenge rather than placate. They won’t even discuss tactics like those forceful actions that Operation Rescue used to employ, much less tactics that involve the more demanding uses of force.
So what does it get them? It gets them moved into the outer fringe that they themselves rail against, as Phil Lawler demonstrates:

“A reader on Mark Shay’s blog reports that Bishop Blase Cupich of Spokane, Washington, has told the priests of his diocese not to be involved with the 40 Days for Life campaign, because he doesn’t want them to be identified with the “extremists” of the pro-life movement. (Exactly the same report came to us separately, from a reliable source.) You know: the “extremists” who pray quietly outside abortion clinics, and try to save unborn babies from slaughter. If secular editorial writers in Spokane characterized those pro-lifers as extremists, it would show the need for more effective Church leadership in the city, to give people an accurate understanding of how real Christians behave. But if the bishop himself thinks they’re extremists, it’s a sad certainty that sort of effective leadership won’t be coming from his chancery.”

Now you might be thinking that with a name like that and a history like his, the bishop might be one of those homosexuals who infiltrated the Church by the thousands during the sexual liberation era that lasted from the ‘50s through the ‘80s and are still causing untold damage to the organization, and you’re probably right. But those people should be resisted, not acquiesced to as the “peaceful, prayerful” groups urge. Otherwise, even those groups will find themselves personae non grata.
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For about two years I’ve been posting the ten chapters of Paul Ross Evans’ “The Militant Christian.” You’ll have to go back to the January, 2010, issue to read the last one, Chapter VI. Here’s Chapter VII:

The Ten Commandments – Behavioral Standards and a Sacred Code

Paul lists here, and fleshes out, the Ten Commandments.

In Chapter VIII, “Prayers for Strength,” Paul includes the Lord’s Prayer, the Apostles Creed, the Doxology, and the Hail Mary.
He adds this note after the Hail Mary: This meditation s not meant as a prayer to a higher power, simply an acknowledgment of the sacred feminine, of Mary and her life, and asking God the Father to help us be blessed by such knowledge and love.

He then offers several prayers he composed himself:

Prayer to Honor the Five Solas.

a. Father God, help me to honor Sola Scripture (Scripture Alone). The Bible, your word, is the sole and final authority in all matters of life and godliness. Help the Church, as well as the individual, l look to the Bible as the ultimate authority.
b. Father God, help me to always remember Sola Gratia (Grace Alone), that salvation is by Grace alone. Also help me to remember Christ’s sacrifice giving men that.
c. Father God, help me to remember Sola Fide (Faith alone). Help me to remember that salvation is through grace alone which is attained only through Faith in Christ, and honoring that sacrifice.
d. Father God, help me to remember Solus Christus (Christ Alone), that there is no other mediator between God and sinful humanity. He alone, based on this work on the cross, grants access to the Father
e. Father God, help me to always remember Sosli Deo Gloria, (the Glory of God alone), that everything I do should be for God’s glory. His will and missions alone are all that matter.

Prayer to Stay Clear of the Seven Deadly Sins

1. God, guard me from Pride, that I may not sin against you.
2. God, guard me from Envy, that I may not sin against you.
3. God, guard me from Lust, that I may not sin against you.
4. God, guard me from Anger, that I may not sin against you.
5. God, guard me from Gluttony, that I may not sin against you.
6. God, guard me from greed, that I may not sin against you.
7. God, guard me from Sloth, that I may not sin against you

Prayer to be Guarded Against and Refrain from the Six things the Lord Hates and the Seven Which are Abominations.
Lord God guard me against and protect me from the six things you hate and the seven which are aboninations unto you.
Guard me against and protect me from a proud look, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that are swift to run to mischief, false witness that speaketh lies, and sowing discord among brethren.
The fear of the Lord is to hate evil.. Pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth do I hate.

The last several pages of “The Militant Christian” consist of more than a dozen prayers. I will name here the ones you can look up and include in the November issue the ones Paul composed himself.

You can look up “The Prayer in the Midst of Illness” by Ulrich Zwingli; “The Jabez Prayer” from the Chronicles; “The Beatitudes” from Matthew; “The Prayer of Saint Francis of Assisi;” “The Act of contrition”; “the Magnificat, Mary’s Prayer of Praise” (no note); “The Prayer for Family” and “The Deliver Me Prayer” by Mother Theresa; and “The Prayer of Good Will,” “The Belief Prayer,” and “The Spirit Prayer” by John Henry Cardinal Newman.

Abortion is Murder, 9-5, September, 2011

2011-08-21T06:47:00.000-07:00

Formerly Stop the Killing of Young People (skyp) and soon, perhaps, Stop Killing Preemies

September, 2011 Vol. 9 No. 5
PO Box 7424, Reading, PA 19603
Phone – 484-706-4375
Email – johndunk@ptd.net
Web – skyp1.blogspot.com
Circulation – 83
John Dunkle, Editor

Abortion is Murder, a weak, pathetic response to baby murder, is sent out at least once a month. If the gestapo hasn’t jailed you for defending the innocent realistically, you either have to tell me you want it or go to the website. Faxes and emails are free but snail-mail is free only for PFCs, $100 for others.
Because I believe we should examine every legitimate means, including force, in our attempt to protect those being tortured to death, I want to hear from people who’ve been forceful. I’d also like to hear from those prolifers and pro-deathers who call force violence.

Prisoners for Christ:

1. Evans, Paul Ross 83230-180, USP McCreary, P.O. Box 3000, Pine Knot, KY 42635
2. Gibbons, Linda, Vanier WDC, 655 Martin St., P.O. Box 1040, Milton, ON, Canada L9T 5E6
3. Griffin, Michael 310249, 5914 Jeff Ates Rd., Milton, FL 32583-0000
4. Jordi, Stephen 70309-004, FCI P.O. Box 33, Terre Haute IN 47802 6/30
5. Knight, Peter James, P.O. Box 376, Laverton, Victoria, Australia
6. Kopp, James 11761-055, USP Canaan, P.O. Box 300, 3057 Easton Tpk., Waymart, PA 18472
7. Little, David SJRCC, 930 Old Black River Road, Saint John, NB E2J 4T3
8. Moose, Justin 27494-057 FCI Talladega, P.O. Box 1000, Talladega, AL 35160
9. Richardson, Alonzo Lee 12898-021, FCI Pollock Federal Correctional Institution, P.O. Box 4050, Pollock, LA 71467
10. Roeder, Scott P. 65192, PO Box 2, Lansing Kansas 66043
11. Ross, Michael, Custer County Jail, 1010 Main St., Miles City, Montana 59301
12. Rudolph, Eric 18282-058 US Pen. Max, Box 8500, Florence CO 81226-8500
13. Shannon, Rachelle 59755-065, FCI Waseca, Unit A, P.O. Box 1731, Waseca, MN 56093 3/31
14. Waagner, Clayton Lee 17258-039, United States Penitentiary, P.O. Box 1000, Lewisburg PA 17837 8/25

Even though it’s a shameful sin to abandon defenseless victims to their attackers, it’s a far worse sin when you attempt to pass the blame for that sin onto God by claiming that’s what he wanted you to do. And that’s precisely what so many people have done with their rejection of God’s clear and sensible instructions to defend the defenseless, and with their pretenses and fake excuses for rejecting those instructions. Pride is a terrible thing when it leads you to deny your own sin and instead say that God sinned. Peter James Knight
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a message from Cal:

Dear John, You didn't follow up with the Catholic Pro-Life Quiz. The address for Moose is missing his inmate number: 27494-057.
The Kansas Supreme Court has now denied all of seven motions to file briefs in favor of Scott Roeder, including yours and mine, but granted the one motion to file a brief against him by the American Civil Liberties Union & National Abortion Federation.
A humorous quote from the ACLU's trial brief reads, "Amici appreciate that a defendant's ability to defend against criminal prosecution should be limited in only the narrowest circumstances." When do the "narrowest circumstances" occur? For the ACLU, they occur whenever defense strategies might challenge something the ACLU stands for. When that happens, then rather than respecting the right to a fair trial, the ACLU will actually show up in court mid-trial to ask the judge to nullify any hope of fair proceedings. Sincerely, Cal

I delayed posting my follow up to Cal’s July Catholic Pro-Life Quiz (and the continuation of Jimbo’s “Stacey & Hutch”) till now because I needed room in August for Dr. Frank’s take on the Caylee verdict. So, first, here are my answers to the quiz:

1.(c)
2.(b) The Church says, “We have no doubt about the person status of the fetus, but even for those of you who do have a doubt, it is morally wrong to accept the risk of committing homicide.
3.(a)
4.(a)
5.(a) That’s the truth but we might say (b) for political reasons.
6.(b)
7.(a)
8.(b)
9.(a) Although circumstances might play a part in how we answer this one too.
10. Neither of these is correct. The child may not be baptized till she has emerged from the womb, real or artificial.

I believe, Gentle Reader, that all my answers are different from Cal’s. So you can ignore his.
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And here is the continuation of “Stacey & Hutch:

Diner Break

Diner breaks really can’t happen in a small town, but in a bigger town you can get to a part where there’s no planned nocturnal activity. Or, if you are next to a border (a preferred working station) you might be able to skip across for “lunch.”
“Lunch” in their case was usually about 2 or so. That way it happened just about the time the Red Zone was really kicking in. And when they hit the street again. they only hade a couple more hours of it to endure until the relief of the first joggers and first garbage trucks, which was still a workable time, until first light.
“I had another talk with James,” said Stacey.
“You‘re shameless, S,” said Hutch, “You’re a happily married woman!”
“It was a short discussion,” she riposted, a bit icily. “Besides, I was doing union research.”
“I bet.”
“I’m serious. He told me about her accountant, and I went and talked to her.”
“Oh?”
“Do you realize how simple it is top make a P.O.?”
“P.O.?”
“Purchase Order, Silly.”
“Oh, that little thing.”
“Right,” and Stacey described the pink half-sheet of NCR carbon less paper which seemed to rule the world.
“You just go to the damn printer and give ‘em your address. It’s like getting stationary for your Christmas cards.”
“Your address? Are you crazy?” Where you, Tom, and the kids live?”
“Don’t be a dope,” said Stacey, “not that address.”
“So, what, you gave ‘em my address?”
“Do I look like a dope? Don’t answer that.”
“So, what’s your address?”
“I live at the Post Office, just like Eudora Welty. And a million deadbeat dads too.”
“You mean . . .”
“That’s how they do it, Silly! Move to another town, get a main squeeze, another job, and open a P.O. box. Can’t find ‘em.”
“So, that’s what they do, the bums. But how do they open a box? They can’t show their driver’s license.”
“You never read Catch Me if You Can, did you.”
“Great movie. That titanic kid, Kate Winslow? The other Titanic kid, DiCaprio Capricorn? Looks a little like my nephew Billy.”
“The movie! That’s the movie! Read the book, and another ten on the shelf next to it on how to open up a private detective agency.”
“Who wants to open a private detective agency?”
“No, Silly, the book. Get you a nice high-school-kid-to-the-liquor-store ID. They do it all the time.”
“I’ve always wondered how bartenders deal with all that.”
“Funny you mention bartenders. they have their own little cheat book under the counter. Comes from the breweries.”
“This is making me thirsty.”
“So get an old book from the bartender.”
“Seamus?”
Tell him your son is doing a paper in college.”
“Yeah, right.”
“Like a science paper, alcohol abuse.”
“Then what?”
“Well, Silly, take the book, read the bugnale, get a cheapie ID, and go rent a mailbox.”
“Why?”
“And then put that address on your PO.”
“Post Office?”
“Purchase Order, have you been listening?” (tbc)
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Dear Mr. Horlsey, Hello, I am a 16 year old boy who has become involved in the anti-abortion movement. Today I was at the mill trying to intervene and stop the slaughter of the innocent. If you would suggest some tips for me, or if you want me to keep e-mailing you or O'Toole, please contact me. I am very distressed about this murder and often cry, partly because of this sin.
God Bless, Daniel R.

Daniel, the last 38 years have proven you are being led to the most frustrating and the most potentially dangerous ministry in the USA and the world. Only the Holy Spirit of God can equip you to deal effectively in a decent and orderly manner with the great challenge you face. Pray for His Guidance as we will pray you will be filled with the fruit of His Spirit.
I must tell you that your willingness to go to the sound of these cannons is one of the most encouraging things that can happen to me. Because the Lord needs young men, men willing to spend their lives to abolish legalized abortion. Either young men heed His call today, or your generation, like mine before you, will be an example of how NOT to serve the Lord Jesus Christ rather than, like the generation of the Apostles, as example of HOW TO serve the Lord.
Your tears are a reasonable and appropriate response to the specter of legalized child sacrifice in the nation you have inherited as a birth right and a responsibility from your Creator. And the tears are an appropriate response to our terrible failure in abolishing this evil from our nation.
Hear what the Lord says: Psalm 126:5, They that sow in tears shall reap in joy.
I hold onto that promise because there is no more important work, no higher priority, that can be done in the United States of America than establishing God's law against murder for in establishing this law we show that we do love our neighbor. 1 Tim. 1:8-11 makes it clear that God has put His trust in us to establish that law.
Daniel, you must recognize that Satan will work his hardest to make you a casualty in this war against the least of God's children. Listen to me and those that I point out to you. We have much experience in resisting the devil as well as enduring hardship in this war.
To understand where we are at in the war you have been called to fight in, go to http://www.aogusa.org and read the material there slowly, thoughtfully, and diligently apply every faculty God has given you to understand the role God would have you play in this battle at hand.
And Daniel, call me Neal. Just as there is neither male nor female, slave nor free, in Christ, neither is there an age limit or a need for formality among those chosen to leadership in this battle. And, brother, if you stay the course in fellowship with me and my friends, you will be a leader in the United States of America and the Kingdom of God on earth.
Yours in Christ, Neal

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If deanna stays with it, I’ll be posting at least one of her writings every issue. Here’s a response to the killers’ helpers on the abortion.ws blog:

It’s about diversion. The game goes something like this. “Take the focus off of the dead human fetus and put it on EDH, James Dobson, Dunkle sending letters to doctor killers, 10 mm differences in fetal length, me not being a brain surgeon, pro-lifers supposedly not taking care of the born children, flag burning or Ted Bundy. Heck anything to take the focus off those 10 week old fetuses that gnaw at their consciences with their fully formed little bodies.
But the reality is that if every pro-lifer on here screamed loudly that we HATED everyone of these things listed above, it still wouldn’t take away the humanity of that 10 week fetus or the fact that it has fingers and toes and a beating heart and it feels things and is active in the womb. Nothing can or ever will erase that fact. That 10 week fetus needs to be looked square in its little FACE and acknowledged for what it is.
Then if they are going to continue to kill it, they need to look it in its little face and admit what they are doing for the sake of the woman’s “bodily autonomy” or probably often for the sake of money. The facts cannot be erased John, only the attention diverted.

Isn’t she good!
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That prolific prolife stalwart Dr. Frank sent this:

If bishops were truly concerned about their flocks and wanted to end the killing of 1.3 million unborn and partially born children every year in the USA they would announce at their next meeting that the United States has two major parties, the Democrat party which supports the killing of God's precious, innocent unborn children ( this support is written in their party platform.) Then you have the Republican party whose party platform is one of pro-life and calls for overturning the Roe v Wade decision that legalized abortions.
In view of this there should be no doubt who a Catholic should vote for, nationally, statewide or locally. To vote for someone who supports killing makes the voter a party to the killing and for that you will answer to God. This should not be that difficult to understand.
The bishops' past voting guide, “Forming Consciences for Faithful Citizenship.” is completely flawed and enables Catholics to vote for members of the "baby killing party" with not a tinge of regret. Bishop have to get over their affinity with the Democrat party -- the party of death.
According to an exclusive Illinois Leader analysis [6] of the voting habits of the Chicago Archdiocese's voting Catholic priests, more than 75% of them sided with Democrats in the March 2002 primary election. Consequently, many U.S. Catholics are receiving a message from many priests and Bishops, however subtle, that the Church wishes them to vote for the Democrat Party, the official baby killing party in America. Is this why many of our pulpits are silent on the infallible Church teachings regarding morals and faith, teachings that definitely target Democrats and, of course, the devil himself.
If the bishops do NOT issue such a statement, or close to it, consider these weak shepherds as mere phonies who have already excommunicated themselves (latae sententiae) for their lukewarmness. We have God's Own word on that from the Book of the Apocalypse, 3: 16
"Because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will begin to vomit thee out of My mouth."
How about sending the above to your bishop -- I am. If all my readers did so, I do think it would help to save lives. Bishops MUST be told that the bulk of them are lousy shepherds. There are about 55 million Catholics of voting age in the USA and could swing any election -- if only the bishops had a mind to.
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SKYP, I was given your address a few years back by a Prisoner of God named McDonald. He and I became good friends in USP Victorville, Ca. He let me read your newsletter. Sorry, it’s been some time between then and now. Figured I should write to you to give moral support and applaud you in your work and endeavors.
If you have any old newsletters taking up apace, or any new ones, I’d do my part in making sure the noble people will read them and pass them on.
There’s not much financially I can do, no prison-slave job in here. And not much coming in from family. You can google my name on line and see that I too am a legit Political Prisoner within the White Racial Movement, and still an activist with my articles.
If you send me SKYPs, I’d put them to good use and help spread the Word. Write me @: Jake Laskey 68777-065, USP #1, PO Box 1033, Coleman, FL 33521

Hey, I’m in the black racial movement but I’ll accept all allies in this war. I don’t want donations. I try to sooth my guilt feelings by borrowing from my wife to pay for the newsletter.
I’ll send you all the back issues of skyp you want. Tell me when you’re inundated.
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Rev. Michael Bray is still in fighting form, thank God:http://www.courthousenews.com/2011/07/19/38257.htm

Looks like the Obamanation is going hard after the street activists. One Richard Retta is taking the heat in the D.C. area as per link above. The report names the latest person sued under FACE. There is also Angel Dillard in Kansas http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2011/April/11-crt-442.html,

Ken and Jo Scott in Denver, http://kgov.com/bel/20110602.

Remember the operative words: "intimidate, interfere, harass." Those are the inflatable or flexible or ambiguous words that the nefarious legislators used to write the statute known as FACE (1995). They can be interpreted quite broadly in accordance with any wicked judge's imagination. (The civil provision of the statute allowed for PP to sue yours truly for writing A Time to Kill. Yes, in that fairy tale stretch of juridical imaginative powers, the jury was told that if the defendant "should have known" that the abortionists would "have felt threatened," then the defendant can be found liable for threatening said baby killers.)

It is not smart to run away from those who have been charged with FACE as if it is applied "in good faith" only against the "violence" users. No. It may have been applied FIRST to those associated with force who were denounced and segregated as part of the "violent anti-choice" folks. But leaving those folks out to be burned did not serve "the movement." Once those who faithfully refused to condemn the use of force have been swept from the streets, this foul Federal government will - as it is now - turn on anyone who continues to oppose childslaughter. Don't fool yourself. Speak up for those who are being persecuted.

Cathy Ramey elaborates:

For those who are not getting Michael's most excellent anti-abortion updates, let me put these news stories into context for you.

It seems the U.S. government has recently filed suit under the F.A.C.E. Act (Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances) charging 4 anti-abortion protesters, in three separate suits, none of whom blocked access to an abortuary. All of them were engaged in what has historically been called "sidewalk counseling" against having a baby killed by abortion. That simply involves telling women about abortion and pleading that they not go in to the mill. One of those being sued is a woman who wrote a generic letter to an abortionist to state that abortion is a form of murder and that murderers are generally tracked and always having to look over their shoulders because someday somebody will hold them accountable. Unlike doing sit-ins, these actions have always fallen under the First Amendment to the Constitution, but as anti-abortionists have learned over the last few decades, we are special. The First Amendment was not written to apply to our speech.

Under a civil lawsuit, the complainants (abortion mill owners, abortionists, "escorts" and the federal government) only have to allege acts; there is no "preponderance of evidence," and no need to "prove beyond a reasonable doubt"; in other words, no need to prove the allegations that somebody stepped on someone's foot, that the protester was somehow violating a murdering mother's personal space in an aggressive manner, etc. One only has to allege an action, against the protester's arguing they did not do an act. Then the abortion lobby and federal government have endless resources and use them in court to present a jury with such a sideshow that the jurors--like those in the Casey Anthony case--become confused and suppose that somehow, because it is the sacred act of abortion that is involved, they must find the defendants "guilty."

It used to be that more vigorous protesters who actually sat down and blocked doors or otherwise prevented women from entering to have their children killed were the target of the FACE Act. At that time we who were targeted warned that such raw federal power against people doing sit-ins (historically tolerated protest activity) would never be enough for the abortion lobby. Ultimately they would seek to silence any source of protest against abortion, no matter how limited and eventually they will require active support for what they are doing.

That is what is happening now. It has been happening for a long time, and at every stage of oppressing godly voices the churched have always rationalized that the defendants "must have done something wrong" or they wouldn't have been charged. The Church as a collective body has done next-to-nothing to protect the Unborn or to advocate for the ones who have attempted to intervene on their behalf. Albeit that God is in control of all history, the silencing of God's wrath against our national sins proceeds apace with Satan's agenda. Killing the most innocent is, after all, the crown jewel in his hat; it supposes that those made in God's image and likeness who are least guilty of death, are precisely the most significant target in his opposition to God.

I reiterate a fundamental truth, which many already have heard: there is no "slippery slope" of injustice that we are going down, and no place to get a handhold to stop our descent into evil. In one swift move Justice was turned completely upside down, fully corrupted when the highest court in the land set itself against God Almighty and signed their Supreme Court decisions on 1/22/1973 to allow for the least guilty, the most vulnerable people anywhere, (the Unborn who have had no occasion yet to personally sin), to be killed based upon individual dictates of conscience and access to a licensed physician-assassin.

If the most innocent and weakest can be given a death sentence, no individual with a lesser claim to innocence is assured of justice any longer. That is why Caylee Anthony was not given justice and the murderess Casey Anthony was, astoundingly, found "not guilty" by a jury of her peers who later testified in the media that they all "thought" she was guilty, but could not see their way to providing that just verdict. Now it is the guilty who we find being exonerated, and those evidencing genuine innocence that are left to suffer or die. Indeed right (in God's eyes) is being called "wrong," and wrong is being called "right" by social engineers and their befuddled, conscience-seared followers, today.

There was and remains no more egregious decision; no class of people more innocent, helpless and in need of the protection of others. That any of an entire class of people could be singled out for death based upon other's personal whims and desires to disregard their right to remain alive is outrageous. The only greater outrage is that the people of God, those who know His holiness, apparently don't understand His justice. The Church continues to argue over personalities, tactics and other minutia to avoid stepping in for the defense of the most vulnerable, the fatherless who are considered most alien. Our churches appear to have no frame of reference for the biblical mandate to "Rescue those being led away to slaughter; O' hold them back!" (Prov 24:11); most stand by too distracted to comprehend that the only way that evil this profound can have progressed as it has is that God's people do nothing.

So, four of God's people are being sued by the government in order to silence them. Eventually the Church will find that pastoral admonitions against abortion, whether from the sidewalk, in a classroom or from the pulpit will also come under such governmental scrutiny. Pastors and teachers and leaders who speak out will also eventually be under attack as well. The New Testament promise that "All who live godly in Christ Jesus, shall suffer persecution" is a promise you can lay odds on. And for those who have failed to lead at all when there was enough light for them to guide their flocks and students along a righteous way, to stand in the gap for the Unborn and their hounded advocates, they will find that eventually their own ability to speak on other matters of righteousness they have considered to be more important will also fall.

"Death is never satisfied," to quote another biblical truth.
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Hang in there Peter, Paul, and others who have writings pending. I’ll get to them. But the Rev. again, first:

Abstaining from Terminating Abortionists: An Apology
(A defense for those who refrain from exercising the right to terminate an unwanted abortionist)
Prefatory Considerations

I have not opined recently at any length on the great subject at hand because just about all that need be said has already been articulated and inscribed and broadcast profusely. There is no lack of “education” as NRL was accustomed to proclaiming in the 70s. Child slaughter had followed in due time after the national abandonment of God and His Law. In a word, Lawlessness rules. The whims of the moment – the evanescent fashions swinging now left, now right – drive the people onward in the name of “freedom” as an evolutionary nightmare into self-destruction. It is the inevitable consequence along the course which idolatry sets.
When a state or nation abandons God and enthrones false gods (philosophies, constitutions, governments, dictators) in His place, the Law (true morality and justice) is cast away along with the abandoned God. And when, as in the case of the United States since the 20th century, mankind itself – as in the case of pure democracy – generates its own ever-changing “law,” a people, in the name of freedom, and fancying themselves free, place themselves instead into bondage by promoting Lawlessness and reaping for themselves the unpleasant consequences which God, in accordance with His Law, is bound to execute.
For example: Sexual liberation yields adultery which yields broken families which yield state sponsored remedies which yield high taxation which yields poverty which yields child slaughter as the hailed remedy for poverty. The pursuit of “freedom” (Lawlessness) without Law thus produces slavery and death. How remarkable is the popular euphemism with which child slaughterers identify themselves. They want to be known as “abortion providers.” Indeed, along with abortion maladies of all sorts abound. Slavery, death, disease, and theft are provided by Lawlessness.
Formerly, from the mid 1980s until the turn of the century, I answered questions in hundreds of interviews in all form: print, radio, and T.V. I was pleased following a cornucopia of abortuary demolitions or disablements by sundry methods such as the application of glue to door locks, butyric acid treatments, fake anthrax threats, and occasional abortionist terminations, to answer ethical questions; to wit: “How can you, as a Christian pastor/theologian, justify such actions?”
In 1990, at the annual meeting of evangelical theologians, I presented a case for blocking doors at abortion facilities. While acknowledging that both racism and abortion were injustices and offenses against the dignity of man as a creature made in the image of God, I distinguished the actions of the Civil Rights activists from those of the highly publicized Operation Rescue. I averred that abortion, as the killing of an innocent human being, was nothing less than murder. Segregation and deprivation of opportunity on the basis of race was an offense less egregious than murder. If non-violent civil disobedience was justified to make a political protest against racist segregation, then a fortiori blocking the doors of abortion facilities to prevent the deaths of innocent children was certainly justified. Indeed, I argued that much more drastic action was ethically permissible including forceful action such as the destruction of property which had already taken place on multiple occasions within the United States. I iterate here the first of three points: 1) forceful action taken in defense of womb children is not to be confused with political protest (whether it be civil rights for black people in the U.S. in the 60s or G-8/G-20 protests against “government” and “capitalism” in 2010). The next is 2) the child in the womb may be defended on the basis of his humanity just as any other person may be defended when his life is threatened by an aggressor. And finally, an argument which we have not advanced publicly and in polemical form before is this: 3) the neighbor of the child in the womb of a mother who delivers her child unto death is not under obligation to rescue the child.
When I stated that the same defensive action which would be permitted for the sake of a person outside the womb ought to be permitted for the person inside the womb, one from the ETS audience raised the question as to whether or not the justification for breaking bricks would not also allow for the shedding of blood. To which I affirmed that such bodily harm could not be condemned. Three years later when an abortionist was shot dead in Pensacola, a thorough treatise on the subject was produced. It fleshed out the Defensive Action statement published by Paul Hill in 1993 following the shooting death of abortionist David Gunn by Michael Griffin. Whatever action is justified to defend the born may be used to defend the preborn.
This systematic reply (point 2) was accomplished by the foresight of Andrew Burnett, publisher, and Paul deParrie, and Cathy Ramey, editors of Life Advocate, the flagship magazine of the anti-abortion activist movement of the same period. Following the deed performed by Griffin, Burnett devoted his staff to the production and publication of A Time to Kill, employing me to write and had his staff edit it.
The proclamation of this defensive action doctrine along with Burnett’s involvement with the newly formed street activist organization, American Coalition of Life Activists (ACLA), resulted in a lawsuit which named, among a dozen defendants, Burnett, Ramey, and Me (Planned Parenthood v. ACLA, 1995). The magazine was consequently shut down as the court required subscription lists to be turned over to Planned Parenthood. But the doctrine expounded in A Time to Kill remains philosophically, theologically, and ethically unrebutted. Its substance might be simply stated by theologians of the Reformation in their commentary on the Fifth Commandment: “Thou shalt not murder”:
So also, if you see any one innocently sentenced to death or in like distress, and do not save him, although you know ways and means to do so, you have killed him. And it will not avail you to make the pretext that you did not afford any help, counsel, or aid thereto, for you have withheld your love from him and deprived him of the benefit whereby his life would have been saved.3
Having frequently and abundantly in public forum answered the fundamental ethical questions concerning the use of force to defend the innocent, and failing to have our arguments answered, it now seems appropriate, following the fourth highly publicized termination of an abortionist over a span of 16 years (George Tiller on Pentecost in 2009) to offer some additional ethical clarifications. If it is permissible to defend the lives of womb children because they are truly human beings, why is it not mandatory? Why is it only an ethical option rather than an obligation? (tbc)

The final three writings here all support the use of force in our baby-killing war. I am sending this issue of AIM to four prolifers who do not support that, who I know are capable of explaining themselves, in hopes that one or all of them will respond to the Reverend and Cathy. Everybody else is invited to take part in this discussion as well.

Abortion is Murder, 9-4, August, 2011

2011-07-07T11:22:00.000-07:00

1. Formerly Stop the Killing of Young People (skyp) and soon, perhaps, Stop Killing Preemies

August, 2011 Vol. 9 No. 4
PO Box 7424, Reading, PA 19603
Phone – 484-706-4375
Email – johndunk@ptd.net
Web – skyp1.blogspot.com
Circulation – 124
John Dunkle, Editor

Abortion is Murder, a weak, pathetic response to baby murder, is sent out at least once a month. If the gestapo hasn’t jailed you for defending the innocent realistically, you either have to tell me you want it or go to the website. Faxes and emails are free but snail-mail is free only for PFCs, $100 for others.
Because I believe we should examine every legitimate means, including force, in our attempt to protect those being tortured to death, I want to hear from people who’ve been forceful. I’d also like to hear from those prolifers and pro-deathers who call force violence.

Prisoners for Christ:

1. Evans, Paul Ross 83230-180, USP McCreary, P.O. Box 3000, Pine Knot, KY 42635
2. Gibbons, Linda, Vanier WDC, 655 Martin St., P.O. Box 1040, Milton, ON, Canada L9T 5E6
3. Griffin, Michael 310249, 5914 Jeff Ates Rd., Milton, FL 32583-0000
4. Jordi, Stephen 70309-004, FCI P.O. Box 33, Terre Haute IN 47802 6/30
5. Knight, Peter James, P.O. Box 376, Laverton, Victoria, Australia
6. Kopp, James 11761-055, USP Canaan, P.O. Box 300, 3057 Easton Tpk., Waymart, PA 18472
7. Little, David SJRCC, 930 Old Black River Road, Saint John, NB E2J 4T3
8. Moose, Justin – FCI Talladega, P.O. Box 1000, Talladega, AL 35160
9. Richardson, Alonzo Lee 12898-021, FCI Pollock Federal Correctional Institution, P.O. Box 4050, Pollock, LA 71467
10. Roeder, Scott P. 65192, PO Box 2, Lansing Kansas 66043
11. Ross, Michael, Custer County Jail, 1010 Main St., Miles City, Montana 59301
12. Rudolph, Eric 18282-058 US Pen. Max, Box 8500, Florence CO 81226-8500
13. Shannon, Rachelle 59755-065, FCI Waseca, Unit A, P.O. Box 1731, Waseca, MN 56093 3/31
14. Waagner, Clayton Lee 17258-039, United States Penitentiary, P.O. Box 1000, Lewisburg PA 17837 8/25

Even though it’s a shameful sin to abandon defenseless victims to their attackers, it’s a far worse sin when you attempt to pass the blame for that sin onto God by claiming that’s what he wanted you to do. And that’s precisely what so many people have done with their rejection of God’s clear and sensible instructions to defend the defenseless, and with their pretenses and fake excuses for rejecting those instructions. Pride is a terrible thing when it leads you to deny your own sin and instead say that God sinned. Peter James Knight
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Just recently my favorite website, abortion.ws, attracted an eloquent prolife voice, deanna. Here’s one of her recent comments:

Aborticentrism (signature of a killers’ helper): FYI I read your website. It’s a bunch of psycho babble. Let me make my reply simple: I am not afraid of death, this is not why I do what I do. I do what I do because I think that it is a horrible thing to tear babies’ limbs off and crush their heads all so that a girl can finish school or have a career or whatever other reason she does it. It is an absolutely horrible thing. You can make it all about the pro-lifers and how psychotic we are if that’s what you need to do to feel better about it, but the reality is that babies are still dying. THAT is the issue! They die a horrible painful awful death and you advocate for it! People wouldn’t advocate doing that to a dog but they will come up with fake reasons to justify doing it to a human
My little nephew was born at 21 weeks. I went to the hospital to see him. He was perfect! He cried, tried to eat, kicked his little arms and legs and fought like crazy to live but 12 hours later he died because his little lungs weren’t developed enough. But HE was a person, a human, and he deserved that chance to live. He was not one bit different from all of those other 21 week ones that are dismembered weekly that deserve the chance to live.
You can hide behind all of your pro-choice rhetoric and conclusions about pro-lifers if you want to but that doesn’t change the fact that precious little tiny babies die. They die brutally! That little baby that I saw was precious and didn’t deserve to have his arms and legs torn off or his head crushed. Why do the others deserve it? Because you deem it so? Well that’s not a good enough reason.
You guys who advocate for abortion and advertise for it need to look closely at what you are doing. You are advocating and advertising to have little babies torn apart all for the sake a principal that is false at best and for the sake of a dollar at worst. I can argue studies on this and that all day long and argue about what pro-lifers do and don’t do all day long but it doesn’t help because you refuse to look at the babies.
You say that this is all we pro-lifers think about. Well maybe you need to think about it for a few seconds. Imagine that tiny little baby asleep in its mother’s womb. Now imagine that you are ripping it apart limb by limb. Yes, YOU! Because when you advocate for it and advertise for it, then you are the same as doing it! Their blood will be on your hands!

I don’t agree with deanna’s last sentence, but when I read powerful writing like this, I get sad because I remember what Newman said – “Quarry the granite rock with a razor, moor the vessel with a thread of silk, then may you hope that with such keen and delicate instruments as human knowledge and human understanding to combat those giants, the passion and pride of man.”
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Kathy Kuhns, a woman From West Reading, PA, who runs Pro-Life Berks, has been attacking me for years, mostly because of this newsletter.
A spokesperson for our Catholic diocese in Allentown, PA, recently supported her:

Dear Mr. Dunkle: In response to your e-mail dated April 15, Pro-Life Berks has no affiliation with the Diocese of Allentown. It is an independent organization. However, we are aware that many of its members are Catholic parishioners.
In the past, Kathy has indicated to us that Pro-Life Berks does not want to be an organization that fights violence with violence. They have indicated to us that they want to be viewed by the authorities and the communities of both Reading and Allentown as peaceful but committed protesters and sidewalk counselors. To serve this goal, Kathy has created a list of guidelines that she shared with us that seem reasonable.
The Diocese of Allentown does not approve of violence as a means to defend life.
It is our understanding that Pro-Life Berks has adopted a similar position, and that it too rejects violence as a means to defend life.
On occasion, Kathy of Pro-Life Berks has brought to our attention the differences between the Pro-Life Berks position rejecting violence, and the views of others that do not support non-violence. It is the view of the Diocese that if such differences cannot be amicably resolved for all concerned to fully embrace a commitment to non-violent conduct, then the suggestion has been offered that it would be best for those who do not fully embrace a philosophy of non-violence to be distanced from Pro-Life Berks’ activities.
Sincerely, Mrs. Maryann Dunn M.S.

So, the Diocese agrees with Kathy and warns people to avoid me because I am not committed to the anti-force position in the abortion war

Don’t you just love stuff like this though: “It is the view of the Diocese that if such differences cannot be amicably resolved for all concerned to fully embrace a commitment to non-violent conduct, then the suggestion has been offered that it would be best for those who do not fully embrace a philosophy of non-violence to be distanced from Pro-Life Berks’ activities.”

It’s an example of bureaucratese, and it’s a gem.

The Allentown Diocese spokeswoman who wrote that just announced her retirement. I’ll bet she wrote it on her own and then someone over there, realizing that Catholics are not Quakers, “ spoke” to her. Maybe he even got hold of what that magnificent Protestant, Rev. Michael Bray, commenting on a pro-life film, says about the issue:

“A fine promotional film, calling us to "do something" for the innocents. But it needs to be spruced up with some pictures of blown up abortuaries and dead abortionists so that the whole gamut of legitimate responses can be truly lauded, and the humanity of the child -- and thus his rightful defensibility -- can by honestly upheld. As we have maintained, it is clear that one need not call another to specifically take lethal or forceful action as the only appropriate action under the circumstances of a government-protected-and-funded holocaust. For the call to martyrdom (for that is what such action essentially is) is not extended to everyone. We are to each bear witness according to the gifts and callings of God. But woe to those who deny and disparage the servants of God who act faithfully to the call He has placed upon their lives.”

I sent it to Kathy Kuhns with this comment:

In all my forty-one years of pro-life activity, I have never met anyone who denies and disparages those servants of God as much as you do. No one, I mean no pro-lifer and no pro-deather. We are talking here about the one in a million who’s had the courage to sacrifice his life, like Paul Hill, or her freedom, like Shelley Shannon, to save others.
No one is saying you have to follow in their footsteps or even agree with what they did, but please, please, allow them to rest in peace. Stop carrying on this obscene vendetta against them.
Look, I know that for the past fifteen years you have sacrificed time and money in the abortion war, as I have for the past forty, but that doesn’t even compare with what people like Paul and Shelley have sacrificed.
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Neal Horsley strikes again:

Saboteurs of the Reformation

Since I took a degree from Westminster Theological Seminary in Philadelphia, the institution founded in 1929 by Machen and Van Til to preserve the Reformation in the face of the hosts determined to destroy the role of Scripture as the rule and guide for life in the USA, I am qualified to speak about the status of the Reformation on earth today. The Reformation is being destroyed. From within. Those who claim to be the children and heirs of the Reformation are its worst enemies. If you will examine the following picture, many words will be preserved:
Notice that the picture is headed, "RC Sproul speaks for Christians". That's true because, as a leading teacher of Reformed Christian doctrine, RC Sproul embodies the mindset of a huge number of the wealthiest, best educated, most respected Christians in the USA. The picture illustrates that RC Sproul has swallowed a camel that is choking him to death, the camel I labeled "LEGALIZED ABORTION." The point of the picture is the gnats who are being strained out by RC Sproul simply have to wait until he enters the last paroxysm of choking, then fly into RC's dying maw, and, as the Lord Jesus implied when He told the Pharisees that they would strain a gnat while swallowing a camel, neither the gnats nor the camel would be stopped from destroying God's people.

WHY THE CAMEL IS BEING SWALLOWED
Why?
Another picture eases that knowledge into consciousness:

Thirty-eight years after abortion was legalized in the USA, the fact that this generation of Christian men in the USA have surrendered to legalized abortion is either self-evident to you, or you, like the adherents of King George in the American colonies, prove you serve a king that will tolerate your enslavement to men rather than serve the Lord Jesus Christ as your King in Spirit and Truth.
But even people who know that this nation has surrendered to evil do not understand that Reformed Christians are the cause of this surrender.
Lord Holy Ghost must overcome this ignorance.
Here's exactly how the Reformation was sabotaged. The "reformers" like RC Sproul and this current generation of Westminster types committed hari-kari by falling on the sword of their own tumescent penises. No group of Christian men are more enslaved to their women than the men who call themselves Reformed Christians. And those women are willing to tolerate legalized abortion forever rather than arrest the "progress" of the women's liberation movement. By surrendering to the women who will do anything to protect their "right" to murder their own children, the men of the Reformation made the Catholic's false accusation against Luther come true in this generation by making it appear that the reformation WAS all about orgasm, all about being sucked into the vaginal vortex, all about doing whatever was necessary to facilitate orgasms even if it meant the Body of Christ was sacrificed in the process.
Look around you today and you will see the Body of Christ is being sacrificed every time an unborn baby is sacrificed to Satan because as the Lord told us, "As ye did it unto the least of these, ye did it unto me".
I am one of the few true Reformers left in this nation because, like the true Reformers of history, I will go to war before I will surrender to the god of this world. But I will not go to war alone as other reformers like Rev. Paul Hill have done in this generation.
Paul Hill's sacrifice must be used to prove that we cannot be Reformers alone. God must raise up an army, raise up a New Reformation, or 2 Thess. 2 is upon us.
2 Thess. 2 is not complete as long as there is one Reformer willing to die trying to make the Reformation complete. But the true Reformers must organize as an army to have a fighting chance to do the Will of God, just as we had to organize in the past to fight to the death if that is what the Reformation requires.
The end is in sight. Ignore my plea and you, and all the other Christians who join in your ignorance of the strategy I embody, personally usher in 2 Thess. 2.

Is that where you want to be when the Lord returns?
Who would admit they are willing to risk their relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ on their slavery to the orgasm? Obviously, virtually no Christian in the world is willing to make that admission. But still that is exactly what is happening in this generation of "Reformed Christians".
That's why it will take a miracle from Lord Holy Ghost to expose the evil that proves how Satan used the libidos of the best educated, wealthiest Christians in the USA and turned them into the bedrock foundation upon which legalized abortion was erected to become the most heinous altar to Satan ever erected upon earth.

For us it was never the Reformation but the Deformation. Even so, I think Neal is wrong here to lay the blame for this holocaust on Protestants. It’s Catholics all the way.
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Eric Rudolph writes from Colorado

Dear Mr. Dunkle, After six years trading cells with a psychopath on the same range, they moved me to another unit. It seems to be a relaxation of my security status. In my old cells the television was encased in a Plexiglas box with only the controls accessible. My new cell has a television out of the box. They also removed me from live monitoring phone calls. It was always a hassle arranging for a staff member to get on the other end of the phone to monitor my calls. The overall make-up of the unit is a bit different. Gang bangers mostly, tattooed half wits who stabbed somebody and got lock down. The old unit had an eclectic mix of political cases, and plain old nut cases. We’ll see how it turns out.
They routinely reject your newsletter. My mother manages to get a few excerpts through the censors every now and then. I do appreciate your posting my book in the newsletter. For anyone who wants it, it’s free of charge at ArmyofGod.com.
I’m banging away on another book which chronicles the events which led to my incarceration. I don’t know when or where it will be available. I’ll keep you informed.
Your friend, E

Get hold of Eric’s Abortion, the Irrepressible Conflict. It’s a masterpiece. Several years ago I ran Eric’s account of his five years on the run. Another masterpiece.
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And here’s a continuation of Michael Griffin’s “The Death of Truth: Satan’s Agenda”:

Then came the radio which God again intended to further his gospel. The gospel has now been crowded out with content; again to wean men from the gospel message. It started with entertainment and sports, then music other than that which pleases God, and now with the satellite radio back to that which worships Satan and destroys men’s minds.
Television was no different. When invented, if you were homebound, you could get a gospel message in your living room, and again Satan’s agenda was to slovenly infest and then take over this medium. Now with some gospel programing, you get five hundred channels of some of the most disgusting things Satan has ever come up with.
With the internet the Gospel is in every country and more people have access to it than ever before. It is a wonderful resource and so Satan’s attack is relentless. He is destroying men’s lives and ministries. For a preacher who wouldn’t be seen dead in a pornography shop, he can access millions of pornographic images in the privacy of his church office.
The pinnacle of technology is the pinnacle of Satan’s agenda. In every technology man has come up with, Satan has sown his vile seed in it and there are far more tares than wheat.
Now a generation has grown up bombarded with filth and it is the new world.
The proverbial frog is in the pan and it’s past warming up. It’s a rolling boil.
We as the church must hand the frog a thermometer because he no longer “feels” uncomfortable because he is used to the new normalcy of deviancy. That thermometer is the truth of God’s Word and its standard and not this world’s standard.
The Church must take the words of 2 Chronicles 7:14 and make them their own and do them; especially turn from their wicked way. The world calls wickedness fun. They sell it in books, on TV, and over the internet.
We need our spiritual compass back. We need a GPS, God’s Positioning System, that clearly shows us where we are in God’s eyes by looking at ourselves in the mirror of His word and then using His Word to show us where we need to be and the most direct path to get there. Millions of people follow instructions emanating from their dashboard but refuse the clear instruction of God’s Word.

Getting on God’s path.

1. The first step is repentance of anything not in God’s will according to his Word. For the unsaved this should be followed by belief in the Lord Jesus Christ for salvation. This step necessarily involves turning and fleeing from anything not in God’s Word (Will). No hesitation, no regrets for the sinner and the saved. Put your whole life in the sifter that is God’s Word. Be an imitator of Christ and an example to others. Let your light shine and therefore Glorify god.
2. Break down the strongholds in your life. Pornography, adultery, and everything that promotes them: TV, magazines, and books.
3. Remove yourself from fellowship with unbelievers. Come out from among them. Draw them from the mine to Christ, but don’t jump into it with them.
4. Daily increase your time in prayer under God’s word. Mediate on Psalm 49 and all of its benefits and of course obey its many commands.
5. Surround yourself with strong Christians of the same sex who can encourage you and exhort you to higher and better things.
6. Pray for and look for opportunities to witness to unbelievers. (tbc)
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Kathy Kuhns and I are not the only prolifers at odds. Look here at two of the best:

States which properly, rightfully, morally, and lawfully refuse to recognize such abomination as "marriage" ought to repudiate and secede from the union to protect their citizens from the wrath of God which this action earns and invites.
This is yet another ground for secession, the more fundamental of which was the Roe decision of 1973. A nation which abandons such fundamental principles of governance has no right to rule over anyone but a base people who cower under such disgusting and illegitimate authority.
This federal government has no right to rule the states of this once noble nation. A state governor, its legislature and courts have no obligation to continue in a union with other states under such a blasphemous mockery of government.
I will happily take up arms, deputized as necessary, and follow the governor who will lead.
Okay. So Rev. Bray's admitted strategy below requires getting a Governor willing to nullify evil federal laws to get elected in one State.
Wonder why when we've got a candidate--your humble servant--who fills all the requirements of a secessionist/nullification governor, that candidate can't get support from the very people who say they are in favor of secession? Does a 55 year old case of confessed and repented mule-fornication justify waiting for the next candidate while thousands of babies a day continue to be butchered? Or is there evidence of unconfessed sin that disqualifies the only avowed candidate who embodies the exact strategy Rev. Bray advocates?
That is the question brave men like Rev. Bray have waiting for them on Judgment Day, if not sooner. Neal
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Hello John:

THE WHO, THE HOW, THE WHEN AND THE WHY

Despite having read all that I have written, or most of it, it seems there are people who still do not understand why I set out on the mission I undertook. Letters I receive so often ask:
“What good has it done? How has it worked?
This just about always follows or precedes the remark:
“You haven’t saved any unborn babies.”
I don’t argue that claim, even though nobody knows whether the claim’s correct or not. Or perhaps that should read : because nobody knows. On this same point I also recall words made regarding Paul Hill’s actions which were reported recently in this publication. The following words, or words very similar:
“A number of abortionists left the field when this happened, and others left later.”
You, John, then replied to that:
“Just imagine the number of people alive today because of Paul Hill.”
However, unless Paul Hill created or helped create a “shortage” in the supply of abortionists, then it doesn’t really matter how many he drove out of the practice. When you’ve created such a “shortage,” then driving abortionists out achieves nothing. From what I’ve heard, no such shortage has been created (as yet).

There’s a much more important issue at stake here, though, than the saving of unborn babies, an issue which almost everyone seems to disregard. To say that Paul Hill saved babies does not do Paul Hill the credit that is due to him. I have seen people who have undeniably saved unborn babies and who could only correctly be described and low-graders. People who have failed their greatest responsibility. Rather than to be placed into the same category as those low graders, Paul Hill deserves to be saluted with the much higher accolade, that he preached and promoted the true Gospel. Since so few have, and since that has much greater importance, that places him into the more meritorious and rarer category where he belongs.

Thus begins a letter I received recently. I won’t tell you yet who sent it. Guess.
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More from deanna. I just can’t help it. Is there a better spokesperson for us alive, outside of prison?

A pro-deather writes: “Of course the fetus is human. We’ve been through this a million times. But so is the woman,” and deanna responds: So why does one human get to kill another human? for college? career? finances? relationships? don’t like the other human’s gender? too many humans at home? too young to carry a human in her womb for a few months? no time for a human? too stressed for a human? that human has downs syndrome? that human is sick? just don’t like humans? humans are noisy? humans poop? humans eat too much? humans keep you up at night?
I mean WHAT IS IT that makes one person supreme over another to the point of death for the other?
Yes the woman is human but what makes her be God that she gets to choose who lives and who dies? and what gives her the right to decide that the other human is less than her?
I have never questioned her value, what I have questioned is the fact that she thinks the other human is less than her. By virtue of the fact that it is human it IS NOT less than her.
You guys like to throw around the term “reproductive freedom” but reproductive freedom only means that I get to kill another human if it suits me because that human is less than me.
Well congratulations! You have just arrived at Godhood status.
That thinking that one human dies at my choosing is the most arrogant self-centered idea that humanity ever came up with.
It is legal but it certainly isn’t moral.
It is impossible for it to be moral by its very nature. When one human chooses that another dies for reasons of self, then it is impossible for it to be moral.
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Furthermore: “I can only say that abortion is wrong today, it was wrong yesterday,” he said. “Abortion was never right. But it is one of the most lamentable frailties of mankind that when one’s wrong is most grievous, his self-justification is most passionate, perhaps in the pitiful hope that the fervor of his self-defense will somehow prove him right. But this doesn’t make it so. And he doesn’t fool himself.”
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I’m postponing Jimbo’s continuation of Stacey & Hutch till September because Dr. Frank just wrote this: I was disgusted with the Casey Anthony verdict. OK, so they didn't think there was enough evidence to convict her of murdering her daughter. Apparently, the jury bought the story of the defense that the child drowned in the swimming pool.
If so, then why wait 31 days to report it to the police. This negligence ALONE should be enough to send Casey to prison for 30 years, even if she did NOT kill Caylee.
Anyhow, here is the reason why the jury came to their ridiculous conclusion: I wrote it about ten years ago, but brought it up to date because of the Casey Anthony trial.

Roe vs. Wade decision in 1973 saves Casey Anthony's hide

Respect for life is a principle, and when women are given the power to decide if a helpless baby in their womb is going to die, then don't be so surprised when they think that a baby is subject to their will, and kill him, or her, five seconds after birth and throw her/him in a dumpster, or 2 years after birth and throw her/him in a swamp. The principle of violence is the same.
And don't be surprised when the killing of 1.4 million unborn babies yearly becomes a major factor in the public's perception that life is cheap. That perception will be stored in the brain, where it will be retrieved to determine all future actions and reactions.
Now, we have to suffer the consequences of that perception. Do you like what you hear, or read when you turn on the news, or read the newspapers these days? So don't be surprised if a person's disrespect for the sanctity of life rubs off on his or her children, or on a jury, and don't be surprised when children kill children, or anyone else who gets in their way.
And don't be surprised when a jury deems an infant’s life so cheap that it would require an eye witness of a murder of a child to convict them.
Lying to the police on numerous occasions won't cut it. Not reporting the child missing for over 31 days while partying will just be ignored by the jury. Caylee Anthony's skeletal remains were discovered December 11, 2008, five months after she was reported missing by her grandmother, Cindy Anthony -- not by her mother, Casey Anthony. The smell of a decomposing body in the trunk did nothing for the jury.
A forensic report by Dr. Arpad Vass of the ORNL stated that results from an air sampling procedure (called LIBS) performed in the trunk of Casey Anthony's car showed chemical compounds "consistent with human decomposition.” Of course, ignored by the jury.
A hair of the child found in the trunk was also ignored. Traces of chloroform found in the trunk were ignored. Documents released by the State Attorney's Office in Florida indicated that the same type of laundry bag, duct tape, and plastic bags discovered at the crime scene were found in the house where Casey and Caylee resided -- again, ignored by the jury.
To the jury Caylee's life wasn't worth a dime. 43% of all women have had at least one of their unborn children killed. Caylee just happened to be to close to being in the womb for the jury to get excited about.
The closer the child is to being in the womb, the less that child's life is worth.
For instance, if the mother killed the child at birth, she will just get a slap on the wrist. If she killed the child at 6 months after birth and makes up a wild story about the child's death, she'll get a short term in prison. If she kills the child at 1-2 years old -- a little longer time in prison and on and on.
So, Casey Anthony can thank the infamous Roe vs. Wade decision in 1973 that legalized the killing of unborn children for saving her hide.
There used to be a time when the safest place to be was in the mother's womb. She would protect her unborn baby with her life. Now, since Roe v. Wade, it's the most dangerous place on the face of the earth. One-third of all babies are now killed. We should hang our heads in shame.
If the unborn baby is lucky to have a loving mother he/she will live. If not, the baby is killed in a horrible manner. Nowadays, it's the luck of the draw that will determine if you live or die. What a sad commentary on our public morals. Life and death decisions should be in the hands of God, our Creator, and not at the whim of the baby's mother.
One of the fundamental premises of our society is that we are all endowed by our CREATOR, not by a woman's decision, not by court decisions, but by our CREATOR, with inalienable rights. The killing of unborn babies destroys that premise, thus destroying everything that you believe in -- even the Declaration of Independence:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

Notice -- it does NOT say that all men are "born equal." It says, "all men are CREATED EQUAL."
When our learned forefathers wrote the Declaration of Independence, they chose their words carefully, so there would be no misinterpretation. But the pro-abortion people will not accept it. They have chosen to discredit and mock our country's most revered document, just to satisfy their agenda.
It's not a private issue concerning a woman's decision. It’s like slavery, when human beings were not considered whole persons and had no rights and were subject to the will of their owners.

It's the most important issue of public principle that America faces today. Are we to be a nation under GOD with compassion, love and decency, or a barbaric nation of degeneracy, which embraces the ideology that one of our freedoms should be TO KILL, if we so choose?
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Abortion is Murder, 9-3, July, 2011

2011-06-11T10:06:00.000-07:00

Formerly Stop the Killing of Young People (skyp) and soon, perhaps, Stop Killing Preemies

July, 2011 Vol. 9 No. 3
PO Box 7424, Reading, PA 19603
Phone – 484-706-4375
Email – johndunk@ptd.net
Web – skyp1.blogspot.com
Circulation – 114
John Dunkle, Editor

Abortion is Murder, a weak, pathetic response to baby murder, is sent out at least once a month. If the gestapo hasn’t jailed you for defending the innocent realistically, you either have to tell me you want it or go to the website. Faxes and emails are free but snail-mail is free only for PFCs, $100 for others.
Because I believe we should examine every legitimate means, including force, in our attempt to protect those being tortured to death, I want to hear from people who’ve been forceful. I’d also like to hear from those prolifers and pro-deathers who call force violence.

Prisoners for Christ:

1. Evans, Paul Ross 83230-180, USP McCreary, P.O. Box 3000, Pine Knot, KY 42635
2. Gibbons, Linda, Vanier WDC, 655 Martin St., P.O. Box 1040, Milton, ON, Canada L9T 5E6
3. Griffin, Michael 310249, 5914 Jeff Ates Rd., Milton, FL 32583-0000
4. Jordi, Stephen 70309-004, FCI P.O. Box 33, Terre Haute IN 47802 6/30
5. Knight, Peter James, P.O. Box 376, Laverton, Victoria, Australia
6. Kopp, James 11761-055, USP Canaan, P.O. Box 300, 3057 Easton Tpk., Waymart, PA 18472
7. Little, David SJRCC, 930 Old Black River Road, Saint John, NB E2J 4T3
8. Moose, Justin – FCI Talladega, P.O. Box 1000, Talladega, AL 35160
9. Richardson, Alonzo Lee 12898-021, FCI Pollock Federal Correctional Institution, P.O. Box 4050, Pollock, LA 71467
10. Roeder, Scott P. 65192, PO Box 2, Lansing Kansas 66043
11. Ross, Michael, Custer County Jail, 1010 Main St., Miles City, Montana 59301
12. Rudolph, Eric 18282-058 US Pen. Max, Box 8500, Florence CO 81226-8500
13. Shannon, Rachelle 59755-065, FCI Waseca, Unit A, P.O. Box 1731, Waseca, MN 56093 3/31
14. Waagner, Clayton Lee 17258-039, United States Penitentiary, P.O. Box 1000, Lewisburg PA 17837 8/25

Even though it’s a shameful sin to abandon defenseless victims to their attackers, it’s a far worse sin when you attempt to pass the blame for that sin onto God by claiming that’s what he wanted you to do. And that’s precisely what so many people have done with their rejection of God’s clear and sensible instructions to defend the defenseless, and with their pretenses and fake excuses for rejecting those instructions. Pride is a terrible thing when it leads you to deny your own sin and instead say that God sinned. Peter James Knight
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Dear John, How appropriate to write you on Mother’s Day. Yesterday I got to see my ex-wife, my two wonderful children, my two grandchildren, and my son-in-law. Today I will see my mother. I am truly blessed.
I wrote the enclosed just pouring out my heart not knowing what I was going to do with it, so when I got your latest newsletter, I figured I would send it on to you to discriminate how you wish.
I do believe that God’s will is being done in my life regardless of my surroundings and circumstances.
One of my prayers has been to get out the message of life and of salvation through Christ alone as far and wide as possible, and God has answered in pretty dramatic ways. I did a written interview with a Canadian newspaper. Then RTL (largest private broadcaster in Germany) came and interviewed me. Last February 60 Minutes (Australia) came and interviewed me and it was aired the first week of August (nine msn.com All)
You will find the interview quite an eye opener as far as how the abortionists think and the lies that Satan has them believing, such as 1) a baby is a parasite, 2) it only depends on how a woman feels as to whether or not to kill a baby, 3) abortion is like jumping off the Empire State Building, 4) God is a woman.
Like I said, an eye opener.
May you always find yourself in God’s will.
In Christ, Michael Griffin

The “enclosed” is “The Death of Truth: Satan’s Agenda.” I will start it below and finish it after two or three more installments.
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Paganizing the USAFA.

Polytheistic Democracy is what our American experiment has turned into. A Christian Republic we came close to being. We had all the trappings and even permitted states to be Christian republics. The union of these (united) States was never intended to be the Leviathan it has become. Hobbes has surely rolled over several times. The "contract" has been violated since the southern states opted to lawfully secede and the northern states refused them that choice. For right or for wrong, liberty to part the company of covenant breaking North was denied.
Our political salvation is in a successful secessionist movement. Defiance by states of the federal behemoth. But that spirit must be kindled among the smallest communities and civil arenas.
What does your church teach about the duty of civil authorities? What is the church's duty regarding the discipling of such authorities and lobbying them for Truth and Justice (by the standards of the Word)? Why are we not Theocrats, first? If we are advocates of the Kingdom of God, what guidance does this fact give us in our citizenship? How can we be advocates of secularist (pagan) democracies or republics? Has it not become plain that such is a foolish - not to mention un-Biblical - posture?
Justice, then Peace, Michael Bray

I’ve already stolen the Holman’s words to open these newsletters. Now I’ll steal Rev. Bray’s to close them: Receipt of this excellent missive notwithstanding, if you wish to be excluded from such blessings in the future, simply advise us.
Following is a reply/elaboration upon my recent comments on the efficacy of secessionist efforts. David Rydholm poignantly puts it as follows:

Hello, Michael, You wrote, "Our political salvation is in a successful secessionist movement."

It is worth noting that many who call themselves Christian presently continue to view Abraham Lincoln as a great hero. But the main, defining, driving principle of what Mr. Lincoln believed, stood for, and worked to bring about consisted simply in coercion back into the "union" against states which would otherwise have successfully remained seceded. We all rejoice, naturally, that the unthinkable evil of slavery was ended -- something, by the way, that Lincoln originally had no plans to attempt. But what gets lost in the rejoicing is that a terrible precedent was set, that of the use of force to the coercion of seceding states back into the union -- that a great evil was "remedied" through the use of another great evil.
Every schoolchild needs to be taught, and taught emphatically, that Lincoln was prepared, for most of the early duration the war, right up to the Emancipation Proclamation, to allow slave states to maintain their "peculiar institution" if they would lay down their arms and return to the so-called "Union". Another fact that schoolchildren are not taught, but which needs to be emphasized, is that the Emancipation Proclamation did not proclaim all the slaves free -- it allowed slavery to continue unhindered in Maryland, Delaware, Kentucky, and Missouri, since those slave states never actually voted to secede.
As near as I have been able to determine, Lincoln does appear to have deplored the institution of slavery. But what mattered to him far, far more was to prevent the dissolution of the Union, and after the secessions took place, to reverse that dissolution. It is in that light that history ought to regard him, as the leader who was the driving force for the annexation of unwilling separated states, an act that, in and of itself, no one ought be seen to possess moral authority to do. Sincerely, David
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The Death of Truth: Satan’s Agenda
By Michael Griffin

1. If it took a civil war to stop slavery and restore inalienable rights, why is it that people argue we should only use peaceful means to stop abortion.

2. How could you further wrest the truth by planning the utter destruction of a child one second and seeking the death penalty for someone who completed the act in the next second.

3. If a mass murderer came across a man throwing his children off a bridge, are his moral obligations any different from a police officer’s at an abortion clinic?

4. If a black presidential candidate calls a child “punishment” and promises to fund an organization whose goal is to commit genocide on the b lack race, then why would someone from that same race vote for him?

The fact that we could even ask these questions in this day and age shows that Satan’s Agenda is nearly complete” Steal, Kill, and Destroy Truth.
Steal – Satan has stolen our culture of life by subtly and stealthily separating us from the gospel truth to the point those in authority do his bidding.
Kill – Satan has so deceived us that men take an oath in medical school one day to do no harm and the next day rip a child to pierces and call it healthcare and ask the country to pay for it.
Destroy – Satan has destroyed the very foundations of every conveyance of the truth in the Gospel of Jesus Christ and perverted it beyond recognition.

In John 18:38 Pilate looked truth in the face and said “What is truth?” We ask the same question today, not because we don’t know the answer but because our conscience is searing. Having all the information we have at our disposal, we condemn ourselves as we cower under the question, What is truth.
The moment Guttenberg’s press printed the first Bible, Satan set an agenda to destroy the one thing he did not possess, The Truth. John 8:44: “He was a murderer from the beginning and abode not in truth because there is not truth in him.”
Because God’s word is settled: Psalm 119:89, “Forever, O Lord, thy word is settled in heaven,” Satan is in a losing race against time. His time to oppose this Gospel and its author is winding down. We must, we must, we must: look at our lies in light of the truth of God’s word and flee from error and back to the truth. When Guttenberg’s press came down, Satan came up with a plan to use that same technology to further his agenda. By degrees Satan’s plan has almost come full circle. First he started with partial truths, other gospels, and, as the centuries went on, it progressed to the point that he would have men change God’s word itself and them print his (Satan’s) own bible. In parallel with the attack on God’s word, he led men to print that that would oppose Paul’s admonition to “let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which does so easily beset us (Heb. 12) The printing presses turned out anything that would steal any portion of that 24 hour day God gave us. Whether it was a steamy romance to set men’s minds on something other than God’s word, to fiction where God is a fable and onto pornography to destroy men’s minds. (tbc) --------------------------------------------------------------

My great and good friend from Hawaii, Cal, sends this quiz. My answers will appear in the next issue.

Dear John, I've made a Catholic Pro-Life Quiz. To test your knowledge of the Church's position on life before birth, mark your answers carefully and let's see how well you did and how well your readers score.

1. Regarding an abortion brought about by human intervention, the Church condemns:
(a) Any kind of abortion
(b) Any kind of abortion, except to save the mother's life
(c) Any kind of abortion, unless the procedure is not specifically aimed at killing
(d) The Church remains undecided on this subject

2. Which of the following best sums up the Church's opposition to abortion?
(a) Faced with doubt about person status, it is morally wrong to accept the risk of committing homicide.
(b) Faced with no doubt about person status, it is morally wrong to commit homicide.

3. Which of the following best sums up the Church's position on the person status of the human embryo?
(a) The human embryo is really already a person.
(b) The answer to this question must remain open to further considerations.

4. Which of the following best sums up the Church's teachings on the person?
(a) The Church has expressly affirmed the person at conception.
(b) The Church has expressly denied the person at conception.
(c) The Church has not expressly committed itself to a statement of a definite kind.

5. Which of the following best sums up the sort of legislative model the Church wants in opposition to abortion?
(a) Children have the same legal rights during gestation as after birth, and so the law should expressly affirm the person at conception in a statement of a definite kind.
(b) Without going so far as to expressly affirm the person at conception in a statement of a definite kind, the law should still prohibit any intervention specifically aimed at killing.

6. When the Church says "the human being is to be respected and treated AS a person from the moment of conception":
(a) The word "as" is used figuratively, such that this assertion does not deal with the theme of personal identity of the human embryo; instead, it only goes so far as to say that when faced with doubt the issue of person status should be treated "as if" it were so.
(b) The word "as" is used literally, such that this statement definitely affirms the personal identity of the human embryo in the literal sense and without equivocation.

7. When the Church says a human being begins human life as a human individual at the moment of conception:
(a) Without specifically using the word "person," the Church has nonetheless affirmed the person at conception.
(b) Though continuing to ponder the question of how could a human individual not be a human person, the teaching authority of the Church has not expressly committed itself to a statement of a definite kind on this specific issue, but nonetheless constantly reaffirms the moral condemnation of any intervention specifically aimed at killing.

8. The Church:
(a) Has expressly left aside the question of when a person begins life.
(b) Has expressly affirmed that a person begins life at the moment of conception.

9. Which of the following best sums up the Church's position on protecting children from abortion?
(a) Since there is doubt that the child is a person, you should not run the risk of killing a child yourself, but at the same time you should not use any sort of violence to stop someone else from doing it either, because you yourself might be wrong, unless you are a law enforcement officer specifically authorized to do so.
(b) Since there is no doubt that the child is a person, you should use whatever means is necessary to stop someone from harming a child at the moment of conception, the same as you would for any other child.

10. Which of the following best sums up the Church's position on ministering to children who are victims of in vitro fertilization?
(a) A child in a test tube has the same right to be blessed and baptized as a child in a crib.
(b) A child conceived in a test tube should not be blessed or baptized, unless the child has already been transferred to the mother's uterus.

Note: If you believe the answer key is incorrect, I will be glad to give you the citations. Answers: 1(c), 2(a), 3(b), 4(c), 5(b), 6(a), 7(b), 8(a), 9(a), 10(b)
So what is your score? Sincerely, Cal.
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Here’s a response to June’s newsletter:

"Violence" in the context of human acts is force unlawfully applied. Police use violence against baby savers. Most baby savers use lawful force, if any. M. Griffin & P. Hill acted lawfully under existing Florida statutes. Corrupt judge Bell unlawfully denied Hill a fair, that is to say, a, trial.
He was honest enough to declare in open court his reason. Al
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Here’s the latest from the magnificent Holmans:

We are all either a part of the baby-killing solution or a part of the baby-killing problem.
It takes a village to kill a child. It takes ambitious politicians, corrupt judges, and mind-less prosecutors and police; it takes indifferent pastors and churchmen; it takes selfish moms and dads, and merchants of death: doctors, medical organizations, and drug companies.
Collectively, they make up the bottom rung of the ladder of humanity.
Somewhere at the bottom of this food chain are those, who at the end of each baby-killing day, pack up the battered remains into cardboard boxes, and burn them in incinerators. Stericycle is a sanitized name for what the Nazi’s called “Copos,” and for what the concentration camp prisoners called “Gas-Oven-Jews.” For an extra crust of bread they would carry off their murdered brethren to the ovens for cremation.
But their ashes fall upon us all; their blood screams from the ground for vengeance. God does not turn a blind eye, a deaf ear, and a cold shoulder toward them as most Americans have. Blood must be answered with blood.
Our blood, and blood of our children will answer for America’s holocaust.
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PFCs, I wish you could see Rev. Don Spitz’s latest video. You’re all there:

If I left you out of the video, I’m sorry, but Praise the Lord Jesus Christ there are more of us who believe unborn children deserve the same protection as born children then there ever were before and numbers keep on growing.

We will be joining those who have gone before us: Paul Hill, Paul deParrie, Robert Bob Ferguson, John Salvi III and a few others; so while we have breath and a few days left, let us serve our LORD Jesus Christ our King and Lord to the fullest of our ability.
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Hello John, As far as Jim’s “idea” goes, I don’t think I’d agree with the words Eric used and I don’t think I’d agree with Jim’s attempted correction. It requires a bit of thought to state the situations correctly. I’ve not given it that thought as yet and I can’t help feeling that either Eric or Jim has either. It’s one of those affairs where you know what the situation is but it takes a bit of time and thought to put it into the right words.

Perhaps I can say this much at this stage though. Since Eric did use the word “you,” he is obviously addressing his comment to those who are at least old enough to read, and is thus not referring to the victims of abortion when he says, “You have no absolute right to life.

I’m still not 100% happy with it, not even 90% happy with it, but perhaps[s that’s the addition Jim should have suggested fort thickhead pro-abortionists who just can’t get anything right and who are barely able to read even at 30 or 40 years of age after many years of schooling.

Aranda
(And if you don’t know what that Baagandji word on the previous line means, then in the Nyawaygi language it means Nhanta. I hope that helps you out.) Peter Knight
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Rev. Michael Bray saved this message Dan Holman wrote two years ago, thank God:

Does life imitate art? Does art imitate death? Both are true. An HBO documentary about Jack Kevorkian is being filmed in Oakland County this week. Al Pacino is starring as Michigan’s own Dr. Death.
The familiar furniture inside the Oakland County Courthouse will be part of the set. I am an anti-abortion prisoner of Oakland County these past 4 months; the same jail system which housed Dr. Death.
Jack Kevorkian murdered an estimated 130 people. With impunity, he bragged about it to the press. In 1999, Kevorkian was finally tried and convicted of one count of murder; he was sentenced to 10-25 years in the Jackson State Prison.
While in jail I met several Oakland County inmates who did time with Dr. Death. One of them carted him around the prison in his wheelchair. His prison job was performing sign language for deaf inmates. Kevorkian’s prison name tag fetched several thousand dollars on E-Bay!
Dr. Death was paroled in 2006 because he is dying of cancer. He obviously has not taken the cure he so highly recommends to others. ("Physician, heal thyself" Luke 4:23)

Those who achieve infamy have greater recognition and honor than those who do well! Michigan native James Poullion often stood alone in public places speaking up for the weak and the helpless. It is dangerous ministry, particularly when it is done alone. It is hard to find people to do this kind of ministry with! Jesus sent his disciples two by two because someone needs to watch your back. Those who hate God love death. There are a lot of God haters in America! On September 11, 2009, while speaking up for the weak and the helpless, Jim Poullion was gunned down in front of Owosso, Michigan High School.
Kevorkian did not seem to worry much about watching his back. After every killing day, Like Goliath of old, he publicly challenged the judicial system of any state to charge him with a crime. But it seemed that there was no David who wanted to take him on!
Why is this you might ask? Why do Americans love and admire Dr. Jack Kevorkian and Dr. George Tiller, but hate the likes of Jim Poullion?
It is because we Americans are inherently evil; we are a wicked nation of God-haters. We have expelled God from our schools; we mock HIM in our media, and we rebel against HIS holy law. HE commands “Thou shall not murder” and we cheerfully and systematically murder 4000 innocent Americans per day. It is done with our tax money, and with our tacit or expressed permission. The American People, called by God’s name, turn a blind eye, a deaf ear, and a cold shoulder towards their plight.
Jim Poullion is not nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize; we have no illusions of a movie being made of his life. But we do expect Jim to be honored before our Lord and our King.
On that Great Day of Judgment, before all of His creation, Jim Poullion should hear "Well done thou good and faithful servant!" Matthew 25:21-23
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Don’t despair! Stacey & Hutch are still around. Here’s the second part of “Scary Stories with Happy Endings”: Our story to date: S & H continue to reminisce about some narrow escapes where angels rescued them. Reminiscing comes along with reflections about optimization, on the long hauls to and from the edges of the “donut” (said the other Dauphin . . .), a self imposed discipline which helps them sleep at night when they are “out of the field.”

The Back Alley – the Real Back Alley

“When I think back on that one, I get goose bumps,” said Stacey.
“We almost got popped,” rejoined Hutch, uneasily.”
“No, it’s not that,” Stacey came back. “Jail I can deal with. I was arrested once at a CWA convention in Chicago.”
“Do tell.”
“Some other time,” said Stacey, “but it was not a problem, almost a party, a bunch of us sitting on the floor of a gym eating baloney sandwiches and apples.”
“Ugh”
“But it was no big deal. The thing about the back alley thing was the creepiness of it. That’s what gives me goose bumps.”
And, in the telling, the story came out.
It had been a long night, and actually, S & H had quite a while previously figured out a way to do more than one switch in a night.
Usually that meant several exurb switches comparatively close together, or, substations that were all within what would be considered one city, geographically speaking, and if telephonically speaking, there were several separate exchanges all in one city.
With experience S & H had figured out a routine of checking out a switch by day, to look for things like surveillance cameras, over the street (and not all of those were Telco security cameras in this era of urban police cameras in downtown areas).
They also looked for cop shops too close, all night diners, bus stations, bars, etc.

As they knew from their learning about Red Zones, not all of these were enemies all the time. It depended on micro-geography, line-of-sight, etc.
A few tipsy civilians wandering around could actually be a good thing, depending.
During these “dry runs,” S & H would become a least a little familiar with the towns they were visiting, which were by definition strange towns.
They knew that if they ever got too familiar with a town, that someone in that town could also be getting too familiar with seeing them, and maybe even making the connection between seeing them in the shadows, and the appearance of new art work in dawn’s light.
Nothing draws the attention of everyone, including police, to a stranger in town quicker than the stranger hesitating at a stop sign, stop light, turn lane, a sudden move across lanes, etc.
However, nothing blinds eyes to the sight of an out-of-state plate quicker than someone who seems to know what she’s doing. Locals just assume she’s looking for a travelling salesman or ex-spouse, of which there so many in our “mobile” culture.
By the time night rolled around, S & H had a pretty good idea of where they were going to go that night, and the sequence, which, like everything, was flexible and subject to change on a moment’s notice or an exigent change of circumstance.
Each night, each series of switches had a little feel of its own. Too much routine could lead to complacency. A great way to break up the night’s work and relax a little, and wake up and stay sharp, was the “lunch” break, a run to an all-night diner. (tbc)

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Receipt of this excellent missive notwithstanding, if you wish to be excluded from such blessings in the future, simply advise us.

Abortion is Murder, 9-2, June, 2011

2011-05-14T08:44:00.000-07:00

Formerly Stop the Killing of Young People (skyp) and soon, perhaps, Stop Killing Preemies

June, 2011 Vol. 9 No. 2
PO Box 7424, Reading, PA 19603
Phone – 484-706-4375
Email – johndunk@ptd.net
Web – skyp1.blogspot.com
Circulation – 103
John Dunkle, Editor

Abortion is Murder, a weak, pathetic response to baby murder, is sent out at least once a month. If the gestapo hasn’t jailed you for defending the innocent realistically, you either have to tell me you want it or go the website. Faxes and emails are free but snail-mail is free only for PFC’s, $100 for others.
Because I believe we should examine every legitimate means, including force, in our attempt to protect those being tortured to death, I want to hear from people who’ve been forceful. I’d also like to hear from those prolifers and pro-deathers who call force violence.

Prisoners for Christ:

1. Evans, Paul Ross 83230-180, USP McCreary, P.O. Box 3000, Pine Knot, KY 42635
2. Gibbons, Linda, Vanier WDC, 655 Martin St., P.O. Box 1040, Milton, ON, Canada L9T 5E6
3. Griffin, Michael 310249, Walton C.I., 691 Institution Rd, Defuniak Springs, FL 32433 9/11
4. Jordi, Stephen 70309-004, FCI P.O. Box 33, Terre Haute IN 47802 6/30
5. Knight, Peter James CRN 158589, Port Philip Prison, P.O. Box 376, Laverton, Victoria, Australia
6. Kopp, James 11761-055, USP Canaan, P.O. Box 300, 3057 Easton Tpk., Waymart, PA 18472
7. Little, David SJRCC, 930 Old Black River Road, Saint John, NB E2J 4T3
8. Moose, Justin – Piedmont Regional Jail, PO Drawer 388, Farmville, VA 23901 (new)
9. Richardson, Alonzo Lee 12898-021, FCI Pollock Federal Correctional Institution, P.O. Box 4050, Pollock, LA 71467
10. Roeder, Scott P. 65192, PO Box 2, Lansing Kansas 66043
11. Ross, Michael, Custer County Jail, 1010 Main St., Miles City, Montana 59301
12. Rudolph, Eric 18282-058 US Pen. Max, Box 8500, Florence CO 81226-8500
13. Shannon, Rachelle 59755-065, FCI Waseca, Unit A, P.O. Box 1731, Waseca, MN 56093 3/31
14. Waagner, Clayton Lee 17258-039, United States Penitentiary, P.O. Box 1000, Lewisburg PA 17837 8/25

Even though it’s a shameful sin to abandon defenseless victims to their attackers, it’s a far worse sin when you attempt to pass the blame for that sin onto God by claiming that’s what he wanted you to do. And that’s precisely what so many people have done with their rejection of God’s clear and sensible instructions to defend the defenseless, and with their pretenses and excuses for rejecting those instructions. Pride is a terrible sin when it leads you to deny your own sin and instead say that God sinned. Peter James Knight
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They say the “johndunk” email address has been “compromised” because an enemy got hold of the password. They say the enemy gets it by “phishing” -- he pretends to be your email provider and requests that you send him your address and password for security purposes. They say dummies fall for it. They say I’ve fallen for it twice.
But not three times! It’s up again but I had to promise them my blood that I would never ever again reveal to anyone or anybody, anywhere, now or at any time, my password.
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The 15-year-old letter below indicates the foolish and/or cowardly and/or ignorant posture of the typical anti-abortion organization. Rather than affirm a consistent life ethic concerning the humanity of the child in the womb and articulate the legitimacy of the forceful defense of the innocent ones, anti-abort (a.k.a "prolife") organizations mindlessly condemned those who at personal risk and sacrifice defended the innocent who were threatened with death by legalized childslaughter.
And where did such "prudence" and organization-protecting rhetoric lead? What benefit did such cool-headed wisdom achieve?
Nothing. The truth is that the pro-abortion public does not believe that pro-lifers really believe their own rhetoric about the humanity of the child. By condemning those who act as if there is a real human being destroyed in each "procedure" known as an abortion; i.e. by condemning those who use force or by condemning those who publicly offer an apologetic for the use of force in such a circumstance as the present American Holocaust, such contemnors deny the Truth and prolong the holocaust. Rev. Michael Bray

Here’s the letter Rev. Bray refers to:

Dear Reverend Spitz, We have been informed that you are intending to come to Massachusetts for the John Salvi trial. Your public statements on the acceptability of violence do not represent the views of the pro-life movement – rather they are counter to everything that the pro-life movement represents.

At this very difficult time, you are not welcome in Massachusetts.

Madeline McComish, then president of Massachusetts Citizens for Life, sent the letter and three pro-life organizations endorsed it, the Pro-Life Office of the Archdiocese of Boston, the Value of Life Committee, and Women Affirming Life.

Anne Fox is now president of Massachusetts Citizens, and two of the other organizations are defunct; i.e., if they ever really existed. Interestingly, Marianne Rea-Luthin (she’s dropped the “Rea”), who was at least nominal director of Value of, has replaced Barbara S. Thorp as director of the bishop’s office.

Anyway, I asked Citizens for Life and the Pro-Life Office if they still endorse Ms. McComish’s sentiments but of course neither answered. Who can blame them? The sodomy crisis has stilled their pens and stopped their ears.

To extend this theme – www.abortion.ws, my favorite blog, posts pro-abortion essays by “Pat.” They are usually worth perusing. A recent essay includes this observation: “I respect thoughtful anti-abortion advocates and support their right to try to make abortion illegal again through the judicial or legislative process. Knock yourselves out.”

I responded:

I’m going to use this, Pat. I’ve been arguing that our real war is not between you killers’ helpers and us pro-lifers, it’s between us who think we can make child killing illegal again through the judicial or legislative process and us who don’t. I think your opinion should carry weight.

On the other hand gay-rights lobbyists pushing for same-sex marriage show us how easy it would be to make child killing illegal again:

Gay-rights lobbyists cannot muster a majority in a plain popular vote. But they can concentrate their considerable lobbying energies on individual legislators, threatening to unseat those who would oppose them. They can exert one-way pressure on the judicial system, by bringing lawsuits against any adverse legislation and then strong-arming firms whose lawyers dare to represent the opposing view.

Phil Lawler wrote it and it’s spot on. Unfortunately, only Catholic bishops have the power to exert “one-way pressure” on pro-death politicians and judges, and guys like Burk and Chaput are in the minority. So it ain’t gonna happen anytime soon.
Here’s what going to happen soon: same-sex marriage legalized; pederasty legalized; chastity, abstinence, and Catholic marriage teachings outlawed (hate speech); infanticide legalized; euthanasia legalized, approved, and encouraged; etc. Then the Muslims (the only moral group left) will take over and those horrors, at least, will end.
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Mr. Dunkle, I have seen my strategies in the pages of your wonderful publication, yet again. As always thank you for being so kind as to give air to my theories. A few notes I wanted to add – to all of my latest thoughts – are as follows:
Lately, I was hoping to meet someone who would help me establish two web pages.
1) I would like to formulate a web page that targets only secular society. The mission of this site would be part of the first page of it, announcing that it is a site which is directed toward advertising the ideas which are anti-abortion and that are non-religious. This would include scientific facts, those who are anti-abortion for other reasons, legalities which call abortion what it is – murder – and call for the protection of the unborn, facts that show the harm it brings to mother and father, et cetera.
2) The second site I want to “co-produce” is a pro-life movement site that connects all pro-life sites. It could do a number of things and serve many functions such as listing these sites, always giving a comprehensive site on pro-life directives, and what sort of finalities we seek in this fight. Also, it could serve as a common-ground to link Catholics, Protestants, and even other religions who want to save babies. We could encourage others to be the representatives of each section denomination: Catholic rep., Baptist rep., et cetera.
I do wish to find someone who will help me coordinate the production of these two sites.
If anyone is interested, please write me here at the prison. Thanks, John.
Always in Christ Jesus, Paul Evans
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After you read Jim Kopp’s comments on Eric’s Abortion, the Irrepressible Conflict, reread at least Chapter 3.
Hi John, In RE recent chapter of Eric’s book: a few chapters back he was covering the current cultural/ethical zeitgeist of the feminists, bless their hearts, and it reminded me of an early 90’s Newsweek article in which pro-aborts went on and on about this debate, if you can imagine: whether it was better to do RU-486 instead of surgical AB because, get this, RU-486 made the AB happen while you are aware of it and that therefore it is somehow more honest than general anesthesia. I mention this unsalted bullcrap as an example of the false superstition or quasi-religious junk which surrounds AB since we do not clearly or forcefully enough oppose it. Trust me, under Obamacare, AB has risen to a much higher level of taking-for-granted. The secular world has moved on and is now discussing cloning, F, genome splicing and design, and with nationalized health care, teenage girls will have to routinely present themselves to school nurses with evidence of menses (I’m serious, I predict this).
I wish we could find the Newsweek article. It’s instructive to see the lengths these poor women went to to belabor the quasi-morality of their suffering.
The strangest thing about it is they meant it as a backhanded acknowledgement that AB is somehow serious, not to be taken lightly. But they murder anyway. I suspect they were really worshipping their own alleged power to murder, as if it somehow deified them? This is wickedness on top of wickedness, and the result of the 2nd and 3rd generation complacence on all sides. No one has an urgent sense to rescue now the next child about to be killed now.
May I mention another idea I got from Eric’s book? In the latest issue occurs this unqualified sentence: “Last, but not least you have no absolute right to life.”
May I suggest he add the parenthesis (. . . except for kids, of course) before the period, or sommat like that.
It is obvious contextually that the “you” in his sentence means adults. However, our enemies, bless their hearts, would happily quote the sentence out of context, attribute it to Eric, and use it to justify their exceptions to AB.
It’s a shame we have to think like this, but thirty years in the public forum has taught me never to underestimate the infantilism of our enemies. Just a fact.
Finally, in the same issue, Eric mentions a cash tort value to slaves. I’ve never heard of this one before but as reparation I’ll bet this is not an RC position.
It was the RCs who told the world to stop African slavery, and morally enforced it two-and-a-half centuries before liberal Protestants, bless their hearts, in England and New England, took credit for it. In fact, the “Black Legend” was created by the just-Reformed Dutch as a counterattack against Rome when Rome pointed the finger at Reformation Holland. The Black Legend is a false history of the Spanish Inquisition, fabricated a century after the fact (see Characters of the Inquisition, Thomas Carroll, and Seven Lies About Catholic History, Diane Mozcar, for the real dope on what did and didn’t happen at the Inquisition and the Crusades.)
RCs apologizing for historical non-offenses is wearying.
I haven’t thought about it before, but I’d guess cash tort value, in addition to being in se dehumanizing, is also prudentially wicked in that it would encourage slave owners in the waning months of the war, to run around and get more slaves, to get in the cash, kind of like the way the PRC currently arrests and executes Catholic and Falun Gong prisoners on demand, to sell their hearts and kidneys to wealthy Westerners in need of transplants (see recent Washington Times articles).
The thing I most appreciate about Eric’s book from what I read is he avoids the au courant revisionism (e.g., Roe v Wade, majority opinion) which implies, against the facts, that AB has always been around in long history, at even an infinitesimal fraction of the current high-tech, genocidal, neo-Albigensian push.
This revisionism idea, which Eric refutes, reminds me of the Uniformitarianism of geo-philosophical baloney that underlies Darwinism which says that the Flood (which explains fossil distribution) could not have happened because no one saw something like it happening lately. The same Darwinists deny Scripture qua history. See the connection? Now we have AB on every corner, for every exigency (including more government forced – stick around), therefore, it must always have been that way.
This conveys fatalism to each new generation of otherwise naturally modest young girls, delivering them into the hands of their rave/Playboy molesters, and, it has the effect of discouraging prolifers, but only if they buy into it. Once we know the true history, we then must say the truth: “the pro-aborts whipped this up yesterday; it does not have the hubris of centuries; it is a new matter and thus invalid for that reason (see Syllabus of Errors).

So happy you printed that, John. Fear not! Proddies, our dearly beloved sisters and brothers, can be saved too, provided they haven’t rejected true knowledge (not street corner idiocy) of the Real Presence, q.v. (Hebrews 13:13; Rev. 5:6; Romans 12;1; John 6:32+)
Smashing, that, what?

Boy, guys, ain’t these converts, like Jimbo and my father (“The Catholic Church is everything it says it is”), tough to deal with? ------------------------------------------------------------------

Neal Horsley receives this email from a marine:

It makes me proud to be an American when I see web sites like "wechooselife.net".
As an openly GAY MARINE who fought on the front lines during the first two years in the sham, we now call the Iraq War, I lost a leg, an eye and my Big Brother during a mortar attack, so people like yourselves can continue to spew your hate.
You need to get on your knees and thank whatever god you worship, that there are men like my Brother , myself and the thousands of other gay men and lesbian women who wake up every day and make your America safer.
I really don't give a flying fuck what your little band of closeted butt boys think, but at least get your facts straight about gay sex.
My partner, lover and best friend of the last 14 years is a Drill Sgt. in the US Army.
Here is a little known fact you might want to think about. "The toughest, most hyper masculine, brave, compassionate, muscular, hung huge and best looking guys are almost always Homo"!
The whole "don't ask, don't tell", thing in the armed forces of our great nation is actually a big laugh within the rank and file of my fellow "jar heads".
Wake up pussy boys! Fags have been saving your little candy asses for literally thousands of years.
Anytime, anywhere..................OOOOORAAAAH!!!!
Diego

Neal comments:

As far as I can tell, I think the letter is probably real. It sure sounds like it to me.

Then uphold@justice.com comments:

It is true that military systems of tribes and nations through the ages have been heavily infused with faggotry. In some it was officially the bond of officers to their men, in others it was "behind the scenes." What should be expected when young men are separated from parents, family and community, and sent to all-male camps for weeks and months on end, and to faraway lands where the resident whores congregate around the bases and installations? Especially when most of those young men have no spiritual base or upbringing beyond "I think everyone should believe in something; I believe I'll have another beer"?
Christians have not been defended by sexual perverts and degenerates, but by the power of the same God Who protected Hananiah, Mishael and Azariah from Nebuchadrezzar's Fiery Furnace. That He uses one nation of degenerates to punish another nation of degenerates, thereby preserving His remnant from the rage of the heathen by setting them at one another's throats, is no credit to those perverts and degenerates.
If He chooses to preserve me from the rage of the heathen around me, I praise Him. If He does not so choose, well, the pot has no right to say to the Potter, "Why hast Thou made me thus?" but "The LORD gives and the LORD takes, blessed be His Name," and "Naked I came into the world, and naked shall I return to the dust, blessed be the Name of the LORD."
Does this degenerate actually believe he and his kind make America, or anywhere, safer? Right now they are being used to aggravate the hatreds of millions of devil-worshipping (the Black Stone of Mecca) Mohammedans into more rage? Just trumpet that the men who (supposedly) assassinated Osama bin Laden (who seems to have already been dead for ten or more years) were butt-busters?
Where have the thousands of obsolete nuclear weapons gone? They may be too deteriorated to detonate atomically but each has a very powerful chemical high explosive charge that is sufficient to scatter highly radioactive deteriorated plutonium dust over a wide area. Who knows where all those things went when the Soviet Empire collapsed?
Oh, well, unless Lord Jesus returns during my life, I won't be getting out of this place alive. Neither will my descendants. So why do we put so much weight on extending our lives here in this vale of tears? Just serve our Master until He calls us to our true home in His city foursquare. "Master, I am but an unprofitable servant. All I did was merely my duty, and that only by the help of the Lord Helper."
We do have it straight about perverted sexual behavior. The Bible tells us all we need.
How does a nation that has thrown off the guidance of the Bible and has a false balance and weight, treats adultery as a sport, fornication as normal, and laughs at the funny queers on TV supposed to expect anything but an army of perverts?

Neal comments again:

I'm reading a book by a Catholic woman named Randy Engel. It's a huge book cataloguing the history of homosexuality. About half way through it I realized that everything she was saying about the "Homosexual Collective" and its impact and agenda in this nation and the world could easily be said about the "Christian Collective."
Literally this generation--Christians as well as pagans--has made itself into sexual deviants by either actively and aggressively participating in and selling homosexuality and abortion, or by benignly tolerating the legalization of those evils giving nothing but lip service as opposition. Engel makes it clear that there are a large number of homosexual supporters who, while not fellating and sodomizing others themselves, participate vicariously by identifying themselves with the deviants or by merely tolerating them. In the same way the Christian Collective tolerates legalized abortion. While we may not make up the bulk of the aborters, we hold that option in abeyance should we see the need to exercise that "right" by refusing to mobilize to force this nation to abolish this evil. That makes us all sexual deviants to the extent we tolerate it.
Make sense?

Finally, me:

Yes, it does, Neal. And, GAY MARINE, in my time, the ‘50s and ‘60s, military homosexuality was little different from civilian homosexuality. Have things changed?
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Neal brings our attention to more Catholic stuff:

Randy Engels is a Catholic female who spent 15 years compiling the definitive documentation of the Catholic Sodomy problem in the USA. Her book is called THE RITE OF SODOMY: Homosexuality and the Roman Catholic Church. It is 1277 pages of the most damning indictment of the Roman Catholic American Church that I could have ever imagined, and by extension of American Christianity.
Really it goes beyond anything I could have imagined. Given the problems Chet encountered from people who thought he did not respond to the Catholics fairly, this book proves that Chet, instead of overreacting, was being a prudent non-sensational reporter of a truth that is literally unimaginably horrible for a hierarchical organization that claims the name of Christ Jesus.
One paragraph will illustrate my point, but only hints at the myriad details Randy has uncovered and brought to the Light. On page 665 Randy reports, "The St. Matthew Community was established as a Roman Catholic religious community of homosexuals for homosexuals.” Let me repeat this. The St. Matthew Community was established as a Roman Catholic religious community of homosexuals for homosexuals."
The good news is the news is out about the Catholics. The bad news is protestant Christians have made it orthodoxy to ignore news like this, which means the stench of sexual sin among the protestant churches has barely been whiffed yet. Neal

I’ll let Neal speak for the Protestants. I’ll just say his Catholic observations are accurate. When we embraced masturbation and mutual masturbation (“birth control”) in the 50s, the roof fell in. And there’s little sign of its being raised. Masturbation and contraception are never mentioned these days and promoting them is the raison d’etre of some Catholic publications like Commonweal and America. ----------------------------------------------------------

Hello John, In each issue of your newsletter for about the last two years, or most issues, you’ve included a quote from one of my letters. It concludes with the words: “When they get what they’ll get, they’ll fully deserve it.” I’ve written to you asking that you cease publishing that quote.
For many years past I’ve been repulsed, even sickened, by the preaching of those who almost incessantly use threats of punishment or promises of reward. I am not one of them and would never want to be regarded as one, but when people see that quotation repeated time after time, that’s the image it might convey to some of them
. I believe it’s correct to make people aware that there is such a place as heaven and is such a place as hell, but to continue to hark on about either one serves no good purpose. I’m certainly not one of those who shun the use of criticism either, even harsh criticism when people fall into serious error and refuse to recognize their sins or refuse to change, but if people can’t or won’t do the correct thing out of compassion or love, if the only way they can be persuaded to do something is with threats of punishment or promises of reward, then they are a lost cause. I received a prime example of this kind of preaching in the mail only recently. Five pamphlets about the crucifixion and about believing in Jesus, all talking loads of nonsense and all laden with threats of punishment (hell) if people didn’t comply. If that’s the incentive you give people to do something, then you can’t complain when that artificiality is the reason they comply. What a shocker, to attempt to bring people to faith or have them base their actions on a foundation of threats and promises.
Since it’s the only language so many people understand, it is the job of government to limit the incidence of serious crime by threats of punishment. And even though it is necessary for preachers to play a role in limiting the incidence of serious crime, the principal role and the primary objective of any preacher must be to achieve that by getting people to act out of compassion or love. Thoroughly tough job though that might be.
It’s not that those words – “When they get what they’ll get,” – were made as a threat, and it’s not as if they are a reference to hell either. They are neither one, but that’s how some people might take them. The words are simply a statement to emphasize the evilness of people’s behavior, most notably with their response to abortion and abortionists, by saying they are deserving of severe punishment. The following statement says much the same thing but with the use of slightly different words.
Even though it’s a shameful sin to abandon defenseless victims to their attackers, it’s a far worse sin when you attempt to pass the blame for that sin onto God by claiming that’s what he wanted you to do. And that’s precisely what so many people have done with their rejection of God’s clear and sensible instructions to defend the defenseless, and with their pretenses and fake excuses for rejecting those instructions. Pride is a terrible sin when it leads you to deny your own sin and instead say that God sinned.
Abortion isn’t the greatest evil of this age, atrocity though it is. It’s exceeded by people’s misrepresentation of God and their thinly veiled attacks against him, especially by those purporting to be Christians. That is what gives so-called Christianity a bad name – people laying claims to that title and obviously failing to live up to it. Peter James Knight
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Dear John, during the early 1960s, the civil rights movement was being extended not only to blacks and women, but also to children. Unfortunately, civil rights for America's children were cut short once black men and white women started having so much sex together that many felt there was no other way to cover up for the scandal than by hiding the evidence with abortion. For example, the day after the Roe v. Wade decision in 1973, President Nixon commented that he knew abortion was (socially) "necessary" when "you have a black [man] and a white [woman]." As a result, civil rights for children were derailed, even though civil rights for women and blacks continued to gain steam.
But that was 1973. A decade earlier the civil rights movement had been gaining steam even for children. For example, in 1963, by Executive Order 11098, President Kennedy defined a man's "child" to include "a legitimate or illegitimate child from the date of its conception," and further recognized that a man could have a "bona fide" relationship with his child at conception, and that men other than the biological father could support a child at conception in "good faith."
A bona fide relationship with a child includes the courage to defend the child in good faith from acts of homicide. Hence, the actions of Mr. Scott P. Roeder in killing Dr. George R. Tiller to defend children from homicide during pregnancy and birth are in complete accord with the civil rights of the child, having legal roots in Executive Order 11098 and the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States. This counters any suggestion that Mr. Roeder acted on belief alone in absence of legal or moral support for his actions.

Here is the relevant excerpt from Executive Order 11098, amending 32 C.F.R. 1622 (Code of Federal Regulations, relating to the Selective Service System):
Paragraph (a) of section 1622.30 of Part 1622, is amended to read as follows:

"(a) In Class III-A shall be placed any registrant who has a child or children with whom he maintains a bona fide family relationship in their home and who is not a physician, dentist, or veterinarian." [...]

Paragraph (c) of section 1622.30 is amended to read as follows:

"(c) (1) The term 'child' as used in this section shall include a legitimate or an illegitimate child from the date of its conception, a child legally adopted, a stepchild, a foster child, and a person who is supported in good faith by the registrant in a relationship similar to that of parent and child but shall not include any person 18 years of age or over unless he is physically or mentally handicapped. [...]

"(3) No registrant shall be placed in Class III-A under paragraph (a) of this section because he has a child which is not yet born unless prior to the time the local board mails him an order to report for induction which is not subsequently canceled there is filed with the local board the certificate of a licensed physician stating that the child has been conceived, the probable date of its delivery, and the evidence upon which his positive diagnosis of pregnancy is based." Sincerely, Cal

Reread this. Simply magnificent.